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So, if you make up a ******** name for the commission like "hardware platform fee", then you can pretend that 47.5% is really 17.5%. Seems reasonable. o_O
You do not want to pay the hardware platform fee; you can build one or go to another hardware platform such as the one EPIC or MS or Google may build. Then you only have to pay the store fee, which is 17.5%. The store will be present on multiple hardware platforms. Obviously, it will not be there on all hardware platforms. And each platform may have multiple different stores. So, yes, this is a different concept.
 
Well if the short sighted have their way you will be able to side load in Meta and have alternative payment methods. So it will not matter.
If you read the article, sideloading is not only possible, it is inevitable. The store is different from the platform. The platform can have multiple stores and the same store can be present on multiple platforms.
 
But, compared to the numbers that have computers (and internet enabled computing devices) today, it wasn’t a lot. People who HEARD about the internet from someone else went out and bought into it with the hardware and modem to access it. And, the internet wasn’t free, it was paid for via Compuserve, AOL, OR through a cable operator. There was a cost of entry (hardware and software) which would cost more than a Quest today, which is a standalone device.

The information was not free, there were ads involved, and the access wasn’t free as it was paid for up front. Meta likely won’t be much different other than the Quest being the screen instead of a desktop.
I know it wasn’t free - my internet capable PC was 486DX4/100 ?.

But good arguments. I guess my last contra point is that the internet was and is based around open standards - mostly, if we neglect the IE mess. This looks to be outright proprietary.
 
That’s why I don’t understand the lawsuits going on with Apple. Everyone speaking out against them either has a market majority, built off the App Stores back. Or they themselves take a percentage, for the “store” they’re provides goods from. That’s why I’m for there not being any changes, I don’t trust governments to not make the situation worse. Because the users will end up loosing, there is no benefits to us. Less privacy and security, and the same prices or potentially unrestricted price gouging.
The major companies speaking out against Apple didn’t build **** off Apples back, you honestly think Epic is where it’s at because of Apple? Facebook? ?
 
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It’s like being here wasting time commenting on a corporation except in 3D with an anime avatar. Doesn’t seem that different a way to waste time.
While I understand your point, Macrumors is something I do in the 30-45 seconds while I wait for our horrible code base at work to compile. I can't imagine strapping on a VR headset, logging in, setting up my bounds in the room I'm playing in, putting the controllers around my wrist and logging in just to...do whatever Facebook wants you to do.
 
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Another reason to boycott them. I just wish they’d go out of business, but I can’t also singlehandedly convince all my friends and family to delete Instagram, that’s the only reason I still have it. Otherwise, I’d delete my account. Also never buying an Oculus, as much as I think the idea of virtual reality and the metaverse concept is cool, I will not be a part of Zuckerberg’s dystopia. I’d rather pay a bit more for something that will respect my privacy, but Apple is not expected to release a VR headset till next year, maybe even longer. As much as I hate Apple’s greedy business practices, I’d rather side with them than Meta
 
Facebook/Meta is trash. I already hate what they did to Oculus and now they are leveraging that with the whole Metaverse concept which aims to charge 50% on in-app sales and app sales which is BS. Greed is the main driver here and it will destroy Facebook/Meta just like their belief that privacy is a fairytale.
 
But good arguments. I guess my last contra point is that the internet was and is based around open standards - mostly, if we neglect the IE mess. This looks to be outright proprietary.
It’s still based around open standards. The only thing that looks to be proprietary is the device used to access it. And, that’s not bound to be very proprietary as there will certainly be non-Oculus devices that connect to it. They’re not even creating their own OS for it anymore, it’s going to be a fork of Android. The power connections, the network capability, the internet access authorization, OS, all of that is looks to be the same as any tablet device, computer, or phone.

It looks to be as proprietary as the Apple App Store where proprietary code runs on proprietary hardware connected to open standards.
 
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Are people expecting moral and ethical qualities from a for profit company? Their goal is to make money, they will do it every way they can. They all do it, Apple is no different. Might be best to not expect or look to a company for values and simple stick with if the product works and does what you want it to do then leave it at that.
 
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The major companies speaking out against Apple didn’t build **** off Apples back, you honestly think Epic is where it’s at because of Apple? Facebook? ?
I mean, it’s not like Apple FORCED them to release their software on APPLE’S hardware using APPLE’S code development tools to enable APPLE’S API’s then upload the result to APPLE’S App Store where they used APPLE’S payment processing to validate and accept payment from APPLE’S customers.

They willingly accepted the terms and agreements to BE on Apple’s back, then try to act like they had NO IDEA who’s back they were on…

“Your honor, for all WE know, they could have snuck in here shoved their back UNDER us while we weren’t looking!!! That’s the REAL crime here!” :D
 
The major companies speaking out against Apple didn’t build **** off Apples back, you honestly think Epic is where it’s at because of Apple? Facebook? ?
Where do they get a majority of their revenue? ? It’s from mobile. And if that’s the case, if they aren’t making as much from revenue from the App Store why fight so hard? And if you say it’s because they’re fighting for the consumer and developers, why do they continue to charge 30% in their own online store? It’s ignorant to not see the impact the iPhone and the App Store has had in all major tech companies. Facebook wouldn’t be crying about privacy and being down on revenue for the first time over App Store policies. Epic wouldn’t have cried about Apple blocking their game engine that most mobile games were using.
 
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You do not want to pay the hardware platform fee; you can build one or go to another hardware platform such as the one EPIC or MS or Google may build. Then you only have to pay the store fee, which is 17.5%. The store will be present on multiple hardware platforms. Obviously, it will not be there on all hardware platforms. And each platform may have multiple different stores. So, yes, this is a different concept.
None of that changes the fact that apps on a Facebook device will pay a 47.5% commission while most apps on an Apple (iOS) device pay 15% with the top 1% or so paying 30%.
 
None of that changes the fact that apps on a Facebook device will pay a 47.5% commission while most apps on an Apple (iOS) device pay 15% with the top 1% or so paying 30%.
Why will it not change? If you have your own store on Facebook (we do not know if this is allowed or not), you do not have to pay 17.5%. You only pay 30%.
 
None of that changes the fact that apps on a Facebook device will pay a 47.5% commission while most apps on an Apple (iOS) device pay 15% with the top 1% or so paying 30%.
One advantage is that they can sell their assets on multiple platofrms paying only 17.5%. Since Metaverse is supposed ot reach $800B by 2030, so I am sure developers will be interested.
 
Why will it not change? If you have your own store on Facebook (we do not know if this is allowed or not), you do not have to pay 17.5%. You only pay 30%.
I have no idea what your point is here. The commission on a Meta device running Meta's platform will be 47.5% according to the OP.
 
Where do they get a majority of their revenue? ? It’s from mobile. And if that’s the case, if they aren’t making as much from revenue from the App Store why fight so hard? And if you say it’s because they’re fighting for the consumer and developers, why do they continue to charge 30% in their own online store? It’s ignorant to not see the impact the iPhone and the App Store has had in all major tech companies. Facebook wouldn’t be crying about privacy and being down on revenue for the first time over App Store policies. Epic wouldn’t have cried about Apple blocking their game engine that most mobile games were using.
Do you even realize what Epic does and did LONG before the Apple App Store? ?
 
Are people expecting moral and ethical qualities from a for profit company? Their goal is to make money, they will do it every way they can. They all do it, Apple is no different. Might be best to not expect or look to a company for values and simple stick with if the product works and does what you want it to do then leave it at that.
For profit is fine. An absurd level of hypocrisy is not, because it demonstrates that you cannot trust the company for anything, including that the product or service will perform as advertised. So yes, look for a product that works, but assume that a company that lies so easily and so outrageously must be lying about their products/services too.
 
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