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the appeal of ametal mac book is ok. It is encroching on the pro line. It will be hard to duffercanate between a MacBook pro and macbook. This could reduce some of apples easlg disgishuable computers. Cyrenly the macmini is the on metal and plastic the new MacBooks will prolly be comparable to it. New pacpeos is where my heart lies.

And this, folks, is exactly why we shouldn't make the keyboard too small. :D
 
Been there seen that....granted in the one case I saw it was a hacked variant. Someone had a color passive reflective touchpad in their laptop. Set to display number of e-mails, CPU info, memory info, HD info, etc. It was a Linux based laptop though, so I'm not overly surprised. However why do Mac users torture themselves with this crap. You know that Apple will NEVER push the edge with such a design. Remember folks. Status Quo...don't rock the boat. Profits over innovation. Make what sells not what pushes the industry forward.

Yes I'm a pessimistic person. I've not seen anything to be optimistic about. Not for a while at least. iPhone? yah whatever. Has nothing to do with their computer line. Apple TV? Computers? Nope...next. iPod....Computers? Nope. Next. I really have to ask this. Not as a flame but a legit question. Does Apple even care about their computer line anymore beyond simple refreshes?



Are you suggesting apple are not risk takers and like to play it safe?!
Apple take risks when the rewards are large and the technology mature.
Many companies beat apple to market with features, but majority of time they are doomed to failure using immature or badly thought out technology.
Every now and then Apple make great leaps, they also have the common sense to not fix something if it aint broke, and not use technology for technologies sake.
I'm not sure you understand apple too well with all due respect. Especially with this line...

"iPhone? yah whatever. Has nothing to do with their computer line."

You do realize the future of Apple and the whole computer industry lies with what happens in the mobile industry over the next 3 years???!
I dont have statistics at hand, but I think nokia alone sells more phones than the the whole of PC sales put together... with 75% of Nokias product line using Webkit coupled with iPhone success over the next few years that would make Internet Explorer (and Windows!) an 'also ran' within a very short space of tie.
Phones are computers, that is what makes the iPhone so significant a device, it's the first 'proper' OS within a mass market mobile. And it is just the beginning...
Change is going to happen faster than most people think.


PS: I'm not suggesting apple put a color screen in place of touchpad. There would have to be a decent enough reason. I only considered it today and within the last 5 hours i have not thought of a 'killer app' that would warrant its introduction. Thats not to say the killer does not exist.
 
You know that Apple will NEVER push the edge with such a design. Remember folks. Status Quo...don't rock the boat. Profits over innovation. Make what sells not what pushes the industry forward.

Yeah, Apple would never push the industry forward by, say, being the first to switch over to USB devices, or Firewire, or abolish floppy drives, or pushing flat-panel displays, or transitioning an entire product line to a whole new CPU architecture, let alone do that twice.

And in the spirit of not rocking the boat, they'd certainly never branch out from their core computer business, so don't ever expect to see industry-changing digital music players, or media download services, or mobile phones, or any sort of living room products.
 
something to think about...

Think of a sub.mac that has a two way LCD. When closed it is a touch tablet, when opened a sub.mac with standard keyboard. :) students, hospital staff, engineers at NASA, every one would use one when it makes sense. Size? Fits in the pocket of a doc's white coat and the nasa tech's overall. instant classic.
 
Here's how it probably happened: A (now ex-) Apple employee was spotted strolling about campus with an undisguised prototype under his arm :eek: while the paparazzi (on the payroll of Macrumors) fired off several rounds of film from a long telephoto lens... cut to tires squeeling away in a cloud of smoke... :cool: later...back at HQ: Agent X discovers his lens cap was on the entire time.:mad:
 
The real question here is: Will this make Safari any snappier?

Totally off-topic, but I recently installed Tiger as dual boot with my current Leopard install for backwards compat testing, and Safari on Leopard is definitely faster. (Yes, I let Spotlight finish ;))

edit: haha, dude, 3 out of your 6 posts so far are 'snappier' one-liners :D
 
Yeah, Apple would never push the industry forward by, say, being the first to switch over to USB devices, or Firewire, or abolish floppy drives, or pushing flat-panel displays, or transitioning an entire product line to a whole new CPU architecture, let alone do that twice.

And in the spirit of not rocking the boat, they'd certainly never branch out from their core computer business, so don't ever expect to see industry-changing digital music players, or media download services, or mobile phones, or any sort of living room products.

lol that pretty much sums up everything I was going to say, probably a little efficient than i was going to put it.

Come on people, we're not talking about Microsoft here. I expect to be driving my Apple car in 10 years or less.

( or at least a collaboration with BMW like the VW Apple UI.. that would be sexy. )
 
And the new Macbook (not quite as slim as reports suggested)
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Actually, this looks more like the 3GHZ G5 Powerbook... maybe thats the big secret? ....I'm still waiting.... ;-)

- Eric
 
Yeah, Apple would never push the industry forward by, say, being the first to switch over to USB devices, or Firewire, or abolish floppy drives, or pushing flat-panel displays, or transitioning an entire product line to a whole new CPU architecture, let alone do that twice.

And in the spirit of not rocking the boat, they'd certainly never branch out from their core computer business, so don't ever expect to see industry-changing digital music players, or media download services, or mobile phones, or any sort of living room products.

Yah as if any of that compares to what Apple was doing in the mid 90's. I'm sorry but the Newton was then what the UMPC is starting to become now. The iPod was NOT a risky move in any way. They were standard hardware put together in a beautiful design. That was easy for the end user to use. More then anything else. iPhone, Apple TV, etc. The big selling point about Apple is ease of use. NOT innovation. And I hate to break this to you but Apple was NOT the first to use USB.
Some of the first USB devices shipped in Compaq desktops that were supported in Windows 95b. The first Mac to ship with built in USB, if memory serves, was the G4 tower in '98...or was it '99? I saw USB shipping in late '97 on Compaq Deskpros and a few IBM systems as well.
Floppy...yah well try telling a sys admin he couldn't have his floppy back in 96-98. They would have bludgeoned you to death with an optical drive. A LOT of the crap Apple did could NOT be done in the PC world due to two simple words that Apple has failed to understand: Enterprise support. Firewire, yes; flat panels yes. Again there isn't anything there that screams innovation. (OK So Apple WAS the designer of Firewire. They DID some major work on that front. And they deserve major props for their work.)
But by and large all Apple was doing was using traditional over the counter hardware. Heck you couldn't even call it bleeding. Maybe a paper cut.

Why not for once try and do something that no one else has done. I don't know....say...*random thought* Scanner where the gap between the hinge for the LCD is and the main body of the laptop. I've lost count the number of times I've wanted to send something hard copy to someone via e-mail but couldn't because I had to wait to get home to scan the dang thing.
Yes a redesign would be in order but again...that goes beyond what Apple would be willing to do. You saw all kinds of innovation from Apple back in the 90's. They single handedly had one of the most user upgradable laptops on the market with the Pismo. You literally could get at about 80% of the components of the laptop by removing the keyboard. Now? Huh. Only in the last couple revs of the MacBook have you been able to even get at the hard drive.
Sorry. I don't care what argument someone throws up you will never convince me that Apple is still an innovative company beyond innovating ease of use. That IS something. Not enough IMHO.
 
I'm crossing my fingers for a new macbook, though it's unlikely because of the recent refresh. If they made a 15' macbook, same price as well as specs, with a dedicated graphics card, maybe with a touch-screen I would buy one immideatly. Of course, that's more then unlikely, it's impossible.:(
 
Here's a different opinion: the aluminum MBPs really are ugly machines. For me, the white polycarbonate shell of the current MacBook is a real plus (as well as the keyboard) and I sure hope the whole offer doesn't go all metal/aluminum/black/grey. Everyone else does it.

I'd love a MacBook today myself, if only I could have a matte screen and a discrete video card. I''d love a MacBook Pro if it had the MacBook's plastic shell and keyboard (and eventually a 13" screen option since I wouldn't need it to replace a desktop computer and an external screen can be connected).
 
LOL! Hatchet, looks like we both used the same base image. Well, here's mine! :D

Now that rocks a hell of a lot!! Too bad i bought a macbook not so long ago:rolleyes:
Anyway very good job here(what's the deal between the touchscreen and the trackpad??)
Oh and one detail... How can y:Dou not put your dirty fingers on the video camera while opening it?? lol
 
Here's a different opinion: the aluminum MBPs really are ugly machines.

Why are they ugly? I find them beautiful. They are all about style, elegance and simplicity.

For me, the white polycarbonate shell of the current MacBook is a real plus

Wait till u see it in the light and you see al the small scratches on the surface. The material is soft. You see every scratch from daily use.

(as well as the keyboard) and I sure hope the whole offer doesn't go all metal/aluminum/black/grey. Everyone else does it.

I like the MBP keyboard way more. The quality and the "touch" is much better. As far as I know, no one make laptops from 100% auminum like the MBP (those semi aluminum laptops like the Vaio don't caunt


I'd love a MacBook today myself, if only I could have a matte screen and a discrete video card.

I disagree. I hate the Macbook (I own one myself) and like I said before for me it is the most worse design ever from Apple. The most of all hate the SHARP CORNERS. How ever could they design it like that! I feel it in my wrist right now while I'm typing this message.

The bad things about the Macbook:

-Sharp corners, very uncomfortable after couple hours of use
-Cheap keybord that make "cracking" sounds after a while
-Magnetic latch that damage the surface below the keyboard
-To big for an 13 inch

I''d love a MacBook Pro if it had the MacBook's plastic shell and keyboard (and eventually a 13" screen option since I wouldn't need it to replace a desktop computer and an external screen can be connected).

It will never gonna happen. You should stick to the Macbook :D

With kind regards,
Bas
 
Why are they ugly? I find them beautiful. They are all about style, elegance and simplicity.
Opinions on the Internet, it's a new thing.

Wait till u see it in the light and you see al the small scratches on the surface. The material is soft. You see every scratch from daily use.
Polycarbonate does show hairline scratches, but don't confuse aesthetics with durability. It's extremely durable, perhaps more so than the aluminum.

I like the MBP keyboard way more. The quality and the "touch" is much better. As far as I know, no one make laptops from 100% auminum like the MBP (those semi aluminum laptops like the Vaio don't caunt
The MBP is not 100% aluminum, it uses plastic parts over the display, keyboard and trackpad. And the MBP keyboard is horrible, it's just too soft and cheap feeling.

I disagree. I hate the Macbook (I own one myself) and like I said before for me it is the most worse design ever from Apple. The most of all hate the SHARP CORNERS. How ever could they design it like that! I feel it in my wrist right now while I'm typing this message.
Most worst design ever? Take a grammar class, please.

The bad things about the Macbook:

-Sharp corners, very uncomfortable after couple hours of use
-Cheap keybord that make "cracking" sounds after a while
-Magnetic latch that damage the surface below the keyboard
-To big for an 13 inch
Sharp corners, true, but at the same time, under normal usage you don't even encounter them. Have you any proof of the magnetic latch damaging the casing? It mares the surface a little, but it doesn't get damaged.
 
macbook cons:

white glossy material is a joke
simply rubbing your fingernail on it scratches it
the palm rest material and trackpad clicker is the same, scratches too easily
after a while the keyboard turns shiny due to grease which cannot be removed

I never used the black macbook....
 
macbook cons:

white glossy material is a joke
simply rubbing your fingernail on it scratches it
the palm rest material and trackpad clicker is the same, scratches too easily
after a while the keyboard turns shiny due to grease which cannot be removed

Agreed.

I now have a 12" MacBook and love it. MacBook sucks.
 
Opinions on the Internet, it's a new thing.

So that is why I give mine ;)


Polycarbonate does show hairline scratches, but don't confuse aesthetics with durability. It's extremely durable, perhaps more so than the aluminum.

I like aesthetics and I don't like hairline scratches. Did I mention aynthing about durability? Opinions on the Internet, Its a new thing..... ;)

The MBP is not 100% aluminum, it uses plastic parts over the display, keyboard and trackpad.

I mean the outer shell

. And the MBP keyboard is horrible, it's just too soft and cheap feeling.

Maybe for you, I type over thousand resports with the keybord from my old powerbook G4 I find it far from cheap and "to soft"

Most worst design ever? Take a grammar class, please.

Why, because you ask so? What a low life remark of you! I'm not from your country. There are more languages in the world then only English. How much of them do you speak?......The important thing about comunication is that we understand each other right! You understand what I mean and what I say. I prefer you stick to the topic instead of comment about my grammar. Thank you!

Sharp corners, true, but at the same time, under normal usage you don't even encounter them.

I use my computer many hours. I always encounter them and they are painfull. It is simply a bad design implementation.

Have you any proof of the magnetic latch damaging the casing? It mares the surface a little, but it doesn't get damaged.

Well it make permanent marks on the surface. My own Macbook is the proof. I'm carefull with my stuff and I like them neat. Scratches or damages are not nice in my opinion.

With kind regards,
Bas
 
i was going to post this in the roundup rumor thread but this seems more fitting. i got this mag in the mail the other day. notice the macbook top right listed as 13", and selling for $1,499. The latch looked new also, or is that the current macbook latch? Of course the color and aluminum casing. Word check it out.
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Why is no one responding to this post? It's obviously the most evidence we have so far of a new macbook.
 
I don't care what argument someone throws up you will never convince me that Apple is still an innovative company beyond innovating ease of use. That IS something. Not enough IMHO.
Ease of use is what the computer and tech industry needs! I hated Apple in the 90's because they put out absolute garbage. I want a well thought out design that works and that's what they produce today.

Why is no one responding to this post? It's obviously the most evidence we have so far of a new macbook.
Some already did a few pages back.
 
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