It's not for my benefit, I already received a life-saving transplant. My point is, there are many places that people can go to get great educated facts on transplantation and this isn't one of them. You have to go to the people who know best. Your local OPO, http://www.unos.org or http://www.donatelife.net/
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Methodist University Hospital Confirms Steve Jobs Liver Transplant
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It's not for my benefit, I already received a life-saving transplant. My point is, there are many places that people can go to get great educated facts on transplantation and this isn't one of them. You have to go to the people who know best. Your local OPO, http://www.unos.org or http://www.donatelife.net/
Seconded.
Exactly. Clearly, some folks have first-hand, personal experiences with this topic. Let those experiences fuel your passion and ability to share with others. Don't let them jade your perspective on my (or anyone else's) ability to learn and contribute to the discussion.
Besides, I prefer honey over vinegar.
I only wondering for what reason to cause his liver failure
probably because of all the iphone release party-related heavy drinking going on
Seconded.
Exactly. Clearly, some folks have first-hand, personal experiences with this topic. Let those experiences fuel your passion and ability to share with others. Don't let them jade your perspective on my (or anyone else's) ability to learn and contribute to the discussion.
Besides, I prefer honey over vinegar.
Alright, I understand. Can I make a request that speculation and "guesses" stay out of the conversation then? The issue of celebrities getting transplants is one that plagues organ and tissue donation. Many people assume that money or fame can buy your way up the list. I waited only 8 days for an organ and I'm just an average joe. Thank God the Brouillete's from Baton Rouge, LA, the family who donated their 10 year old son's liver to me, didn't just assume that organ donation and transplantation could be rigged. If they had, who knows where I would be today.
I agree. Seriously people. Speculation and armchair expertise is retarded.
My father has performed lots of liver transplants & it's definitely not about being wealthy.
Three people I know locally that aren't in the uber-elite tax bracket that have received livers:
1) the owner of a BBQ joint.
2) the mother of a car salesman.
3) the manager of a putt-putt.
Your points are well-taken. Thank you for sharing them! I have learned a bit more about the topic thanks to you and your experiences. I stand corrected and updated on the topic.
Cheers!
In America is it possible to say voluntarily donate an organ to a designated person?
Such as the case in Australia
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/12/1063341768102.html?from=storyrhs
Such as the case in Australia
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/12/1063341768102.html?from=storyrhs
If that were true then there wouldn't be geographical disparities. There is an attempt to do that where possible, but organs aren't viable for long extended periods of time outside the body.
the unocos site folks have been quoting for instance.
There is a local list, a regional list , and finally a national list. If there is enough of a backlog on the local and regional lists, that organ will never make it to the national list. Livers are viable longer than some organs, but only increasing the odds of a problem if ship for longest distance in the event of a tie (or very close score.)
So while someone isn't completely disadvantaged by not being able to put multiple bets down in different regions to say they are nationally distributed only isn't true.
Money does play a role in the process. No access to money large enough, you can't even get on the list to get to the unos phase of the process. Do you need personal millionaire money no. But to say it play zero role is equally detached from reality. That unos is "money influence free" is a misdirection from the role that money does play. Regions with higher percentages of poorer folks who can't make the list will have shorter lines.
Yes, it's called directed donation. There are many stipulations to it if it's a deceased donation. Your best bet is to go to one of the sites mentioned previously and research it.
You should really re-think your argument.
Let's say Joe Smith gets on organ transplant. Did Joe Smith kill the person who was on top of the list before Joe showed up? What about anyone else getting a transplant?
Ah, the advances of the American health care system
No in his case you certainly can be assured that he was the right match for a donor, money doesn't make you a right match.
Yes, I am sure you were happy with the results of the hospital that refused to treat John Lennon first because he was a celebrity.
Yes. You don't have to go through onos. There is screening so can't blatantly do what appears to have been done in that story. However, it is possible to do (especially if had some long standing relationship the screening will be that much more easier and may need a bit more indirection on the flow of money; not legal to pay. ) . If it was a partial liver transplant that would be possible. However, if needed a whole liver... only got one.
CNN just posted a detailed article with lots of good information. Now, we don't know if this is in fact what Jobs did, but it's interesting nevertheless that you can be placed on multiple transplant centers' waiting lists.
"The reason that some people might be able to get transplants more quickly is that they're standing in more lines. Nothing prevents someone from being evaluated and listed at multiple transplant centers. As long as a patient has the wherewithal to fly around the country -- and be available at the drop of a hat if a liver becomes available (this is where the private jet comes in handy) -- a patient can, in theory, be evaluated by all the transplant centers in the country."
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"Moreover, your insurance continues to be important during the evaluation process. The decision to accept a transplant candidate takes place before UNOS enters the picture, and the committees that determine whether a patient is added to the transplant center's waiting list have access to a patient's full medical and financial history."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/06/24/liver.transplant.priority.lists/index.html
"The reason that some people might be able to get transplants more quickly is that they're standing in more lines. Nothing prevents someone from being evaluated and listed at multiple transplant centers. As long as a patient has the wherewithal to fly around the country -- and be available at the drop of a hat if a liver becomes available (this is where the private jet comes in handy) -- a patient can, in theory, be evaluated by all the transplant centers in the country."
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"Moreover, your insurance continues to be important during the evaluation process. The decision to accept a transplant candidate takes place before UNOS enters the picture, and the committees that determine whether a patient is added to the transplant center's waiting list have access to a patient's full medical and financial history."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/06/24/liver.transplant.priority.lists/index.html
According to you, everyone who received transplant was a bloody murderer, because he knocked the previous top of the list down (which knocked previous 2nd to 3rd, 3rd to 4th...)
By the way, happy with your job? I hope the second most qualified candidate for your job are doing OK.
I never understand the american health care system, where people are treated on basis of there insurance and not there clinical need. I am starting to apreciate the nhs much more now. We gave aliver to an gifted but alcohol football player over here. Looking at mr jobs medical history i certainly think he deserved one. Here in England he would have received one for ... free!
What facts do you have to back this up?
I'm saying this as a member of society.
Why would you think that? I'm not happy with that at all. I think the person who is in need of care the most, famous or not, should get care first. But famous people usually, not always, get to go first. Not necessarily at the hospital, but anywhere they go.
Disgraceful!
This is nobody's business but Steve's and his family. I respect the man just as much as everyone else here, which is why it's none of my business. It's not like we're over his house once a month having dinner. The fact that the hospital released that information is twice as horrible. All of that said, I'm glad he's back and healthy. For his sake I hope the press will give him a rest for a little while.
This is nobody's business but Steve's and his family. I respect the man just as much as everyone else here, which is why it's none of my business. It's not like we're over his house once a month having dinner. The fact that the hospital released that information is twice as horrible. All of that said, I'm glad he's back and healthy. For his sake I hope the press will give him a rest for a little while.
dude, talk about shooting yourself in the foot. you are going about this in about the most ass-backwards way possible.
people won't go read your precious site because they don't want to. it's boring, doesn't affect them, and they just don't care.
you have an excellent teaching opportunity to help people understand the facts, and you are in a unique position to reach them.
this situation has made people aware, interested, and they can see this does affect them.
and to this you... act like a pompous jerk and tell people to stop talking about it. not really helping too much. the site is an excellent resource... but just because you have involvement in the concept does not make you king of transplants. LOTS of people are involved, so get over yourself.
lose the bad attitude and actually try to contribute. from this, it seems that transplants make people grumpy bastards. true?
my brother donated a kidney. it just wants me to tell people to sign up... not try to bitch them into submission.
and hey, mr. jobs could have just gone and bought one from a (soon to be killed for his organs) chinese prisoner... how does that fit into your "real facts?"
I could also see him creating a foundation to help transplantees pay for the costs of the operation/recovery. They would also receive a free MacBookPro and iPhone.
He should, but knowing how private he is he won't. He doesn't even disclose his charitable donations (if he makes them).
The tech press has been after him for years about this. Here's a more recent article from Wired on the topic.
http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/01/70072
With that said, it's his money and he could do with it as he pleases. For all we know, he might be donating millions of dollars to charity each year anonymously.
This is nobody's business but Steve's and his family. I respect the man just as much as everyone else here, which is why it's none of my business. It's not like we're over his house once a month having dinner. The fact that the hospital released that information is twice as horrible. All of that said, I'm glad he's back and healthy. For his sake I hope the press will give him a rest for a little while.
Steve gave his permission.
http://methodisthealth.org/methodist/About+Us/Newsroom/News/Steve+Jobs+Receives+Liver+Transplant
Which is the only way to truly give, at least according to Sufi tradition.
I know SJ is more of a Buddhist but I am sure it still holds true.
I could see the CSAs though. That's different. You can't get people to donate organs just by donating money. His face would go a long way to raising awareness.
Don't you mean it positively correlates with Jobs' health? A positive correlation would mean that the stock price goes down as Jobs' health decreases and/or the stock goes up as his health increases.
You aren't suggesting that as Jobs gets sicker the stock price goes up and as he gets better the stock price goes down are you? That would be a negative correlation.
This recent news has caused stock prices to go down slightly, but I think thats because it confirms that he was sicker than originally thought. Steve's health decreased (in the eye of the public) and so did the stock price. Hence, a positive correlation.
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