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Originally posted by ClimbingTheLog
802.11b? 802.11g? USB? PCI-X? Pixo OS?

Apple was first to include 802.11b internally, but cards and access points had been available long before Apple took that step.

802.11g - first, it's an extension of an existing standard, not something completely new. Second, Linksys and others had product on the shelves before Apple's announcement.

USB - tens of millions of PCs had it standard before Apple came out with the iMac. Apple jump-started the adoption by dropping all the other ports - but they weren't first with new hardware.

PCI-X - old technology, been on servers for years and on many Intel workstation chipsets.

Pixo OS - OK, there's one.
 
Originally posted by AidenShaw
Apple was first to include 802.11b internally, but cards and access points had been available long before Apple took that step.
But only as enterprise-class devices. I remember buying access points for $1600 and cards for over $200. Apple grabbed the nacent bull by the horns and invented home wireless networking. It wasn't proven at all that anyone would even want this.
802.11g - first, it's an extension of an existing standard, not something completely new.
Well, it is a new standard, even though it's backwards compatible with an older one.
Second, Linksys and others had product on the shelves before Apple's announcement.
Wait, first the argument is Apple doesn't embrace new technology, then it's if a vendor beats them to market it's not new anymore?
USB - tens of millions of PCs had it standard before Apple came out with the iMac. Apple jump-started the adoption by dropping all the other ports - but they weren't first with new hardware.
Do you remember the USB adoption curve shown at MacWorld SF '99? When the iMac came out there were a total of, I think 30 USB devices on the market, from all vendors. That's about as new a technology as you can get if you're not inventing it. Apple made a bet that vendors would adopt it, shown the benefits, and they were right.
PCI-X - old technology, been on servers for years and on many Intel workstation chipsets.
Yeah, you're right, though it's nice to see it in a personal computer.
Pixo OS - OK, there's one.
The only one you concede is the one that's not a standard. A standard, by definition, requires multiple vendors to be in a market. But if someone else is in the market, you just say Apple wasn't first, even if it's a very early adopter. And you already disqualified Apple-invented technology as a contender. You might be able to setup a straw man argument that can be won, but you'll have trouble convincing most folks that Apple doesn't embrace new technology.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: MicroChannel isn't new technology

Originally posted by Analog Kid
Ah, a Caterpillar Drive!

I was wondering what those symetric doors were at the bow of the case, and then again at the aft...

I laughed out loud at that one.:D


Originally posted by Analog Kid
Basically, IBM got stiffed twice my MS. First on DOS, then (thank you sir! may I have another?!) on OS/2.

Yes, they should have known better.
 
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