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Ha!! I had a Kin Two(m). The (m) was a gimped model that you could use on a no-data plan.
At first, it was a cool feature phone/smart phone hybrid. Or it would have been, if it worked.
Never have I ever seen a phone “slowly die” like my Kin Two did. Every single time I turned it on, something else wouldn’t work. Eventually, it wouldn’t even turn on and I gladly went back to a regular cell phone.
The irony is great, I thought the same thing, when MS was trying to convince people and developers to embrace windows mobile. I guess as they say, what comes around goes around. MS was ruthless in destroying IBM's attempt at a desktop OS, that was in many ways superior to windows. Now They were on the receiving end
Microsoft for one. They held an iPhone funeral. http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-celebrates-windows-phone-7-with-mock-iphone-funeral/
It was truly a great OS, the slimmest and sleekest, lightweight and great on lower end hardware (until 10 came, anyway)
If the Lumia 800 had come a year earlier, it would have been a different story.
If the Lumia 800 had come a year earlier, it would have been a different story.
Which Mac, in particular should companies adopt? The old Mac Mini? The overpriced, cob-webbed 4 year old Mac Pro? Or should every company adopt the ONE model that Apple seems to give a damn about--the iMac that can't be upgraded or expanded?
Apple actually needs to start giving their computer division some attention if they ever want to capture that market. They won't. They're a company with severe Attention Deficit Disorder when it comes to anything but iPhones.
The real reason companies save $500 per machine is because that's the money they save by not being able to do upgrades. Their IT staff consists of one guy whose job it is to drive to the Apple Store to buy a new Mac when someone needs a faster/newer machine. BIG SAVINGS!
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That was an interesting and disturbing read. One of the first times I've ever seen the iPhone killer sentiment actually come from a competitor instead of the tech media... which was my original implication.
While I wanted it to work, it was sort of doomed from the beginning. Live tiles that only updated every few minutes really crippled some apps that needed frequent updating of the live tiles. The fact that the apps never came really was the death of the OS and the platform. The phone-to-desktop continuity (forget the name they gave it) would have been cool. It just seems to take a while for MS to get it right. Windows 10, after 3 revisions, is getting close. Without apps, Windows 10 mobile could not hold on. I have to say, that Lumia 950XL was a sweet phone (I did not purchase, but get a chance to play with it).
We deployed a whole bunch of MacBook Pro laptops, but we're finding Apple's hardware support is terrible.
HP, Dell, and Lenovo have far superior hardware support services. A hardware failure can be fixed same day in most cases.
Even with ACE support, it still takes up to a week to get an Apple laptop repaired since they cannot be repaired on site. I'm on my third 15" 2016 MacBook Pro. Failed SSD in two previous units. Apple sent us refurbs. My second and current are both refurbs and they clearly show it. These are not like a consumer refurb. Cases look like garbage.
Our experience so far has not shown Apple to be a good enterprise fit for hardware.
Windows phone was a decent OS and I loved the interface As usual though, no devs means dead product.
Xaomi was playing with the Mi 4 I think it was? You could install WinPhone -or- you could install Android.
Wish they'd looked more into that. Buy an Android phone, and have the choice of installing Windows Phone - That would have introduced more than a few people to the platform, for sure...
The HTC W8 ran so much quicker and had much longer battery life than the M8 - Only difference being the OS they ran. If only they'd made a way to swap between the two on the fly
Wish they'd looked more into that. Buy an Android phone, and have the choice of installing Windows Phone - That would have introduced more than a few people to the platform, for sure...
The HTC W8 ran so much quicker and had much longer battery life than the M8 - Only difference being the OS they ran. If only they'd made a way to swap between the two on the fly
Exactly. I don't blame people for thinking that the iPhone was the first smartphone... they either weren't alive yet or old enough to remember.
Right because there was nothing new about an all screen multitouch device with software only keyboard.
The lack of dedication killed it. WP7 and WP8 weren’t bad. Hardware was brilliant, they made a mistake by not converting WP7 devices into WP8. Market share was ok in some places. Microsoft being a giant, they should have had easy time supporting the platform. US had a very low market share which might explain a low dedication from Microsoft executives that are very US centric (look at Bing or Cortana or the Microsoft retail stores...).
Explain to me what I said that was false? What exactly did the iPhone bring that was new? According to SJ, it was a phone, a music player, and a communications device. Years before the iPhone existed, I had devices that would do all of those things, and more (like turn by turn navigation that came much later on the iPhone). The App Store is what was new, and that was what I said. So explain to me how I'm trolling... I'm just correcting folks that seem to think that Apple was first to market. They weren't... by years. But thanks to SJ's vision, they were able to take what Microsoft and others had already done, and make it mainstream.
MS continually shot themselves in the foot.
They had a good mobile foundation, but they opted to completely switch gears and tried to make a single OS for phones, tablets and PCs. That meant a delay in rolling out an OS and new hardware, giving android/iOS even more time.
They introduced a new UI (tiles) and that worked ok, on the phone, but horribly on the desktop, so more bad juju was generated.
Buying Nokia, trying to out Apple, Apple, but now they had to split their energies.
After buying Nokia, they kept releasing low cost phones, no flagships and in doing so the naming convention became extremely confusing.
I think there were more mistakes, but those are the ones that come to my mind.
Please explain then, how Apple DOES care about the Mac? Explain why there hasn't been a PRO machine in 4 years? Or how the Mac Mini (an affordable desktop) doesn't stay up-to-date? If Apple cared half as much about their Mac line as they do their iPhone, we'd be seeing new models with faster CPU's and designs (like not-glued-shut) every year. All-in-Ones are not for everyone. Most complain that a single point of failure renders the whole thing useless.
Right because there was nothing new about an all screen multitouch device with software only keyboard.
There were plenty of phones with touch. I don't recall exactly when HTC's Touch smartphone got "multitouch"... was around the same timeframe. But we can parse feature by feature and find pros and cons on everything. My point was that the total package that Apple delivered (phone, music, communications) in the first iteration of the iPhone was nothing special. I was SJ's vision, and the App Store, that made the difference.
Here are a couple of references:
https://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch-1999.php
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/02/if-android-is-a-stolen-product-then-so-was-the-iphone/
Small companies maybe, but larger one and governments are entrenched in Windows and I can still get the same machine components for a fraction of the cost that you pay for a Mac. Sorry, but I doubt this will ever happen. Besides, Apple killed their business competition when they killed OSx Server.
No surprise on the phone though, it was dead when it really started. Support and App development was scarce.