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Microsoft Also Preparing for Desktop/Laptop Retina Displays

pgiguere1 said:
I know he doesn't. That's not what I asked.
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Well your "Tim Cook" analogy sure suggest that you believed him to be a MS employee.

And what's the point of asking who he was referring to. It doesn't matter, the Tweet wasn't a quote of anything MS or a MS employee said. It's the quote of somebody interpreting what they heard at a Keynote.

You jumped to a silly conclusion. The problem is in this neighborhood, others will just start taking your silly made up conclusion and it will become another MacRumors fact.
 
syan48306 said:
****. I hate to imagine what gaming would be like on a 250+dpi monitor. Video cards have to have like 5G+ VRam to support those kinds of resolutions =_=
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I don't think FSAA would be as necessary..... or would it? I'd like to hear from someone that knows the finer details of FSAA and high resolutions....
 
wikus said:
Apple first needs to give its customer REAL choice in video cards. Their current offerings are crap. A mobile graphics card in the iMac? Are you kidding me?

These high res screens will put a dent in performance, thats for sure.
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wait till they upgrade their units then we can start complaining.
 
JackAxe said:
I wish people would make up their mind. First only the iPhone 4's screen was tEh Retina, now according to this, my Nexus One's screen is also tEh Retina with a 254 PPI screen.

Hype words and their silliness... If anything it gives us things to talk about. 🙂
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I think for phones, 300+dpi is considered retina, but for desktop displays it's 250+dpi, since you're further away from a desktop display.


Can't wait until 4K desktop displays become common place, hopefully with 120Hz refresh rates as well. 😀
 
I hope for 4K real soon too! It seems that monitors haven't kept with the times the way cpus, gfx cards, etc... have. I know its an apples to oranges comparison. I just want a "retina" display as the main stream standard. 😀
 
Forget Retina for now, I just wish there was something with the PPI of an 11.6 AIR in a bigger monitor. Looks better at this PPI.
 
And who was saying just the other day, that TB's dp side won't choke in many years?
SilianRail said:
Matte screen please. Can someone explain what could take advantage of 3840x2160?
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Yes please, matte for me!
The same guy who now uses dual screen setup would take the advantage.

Maybe next someone realizes that displays with full adobeRGB gamut and real-life contrast ratio over a 1000:1 needs more than 8 bits per color to tweak (moving or not) pictures in flat gamma.
 
I think Microsoft is interested in resolution independence. Retina-like display support is a plus and straightforward after implementing a 100% (or nearly 100%) vector UI.
 
Remember though .. retina display should only be used as a monitor, for displaying text and computing purpose.

Playing videos or even Bluray on this kind of display should be crappy. Tried it on 1440p iMac display. Not impressed, just like the ol times DVD on 1024x768 display.

And we thought our 1080p HDTV is buttery smooth, huh 😀
 
wikus said:
Apple first needs to give its customer REAL choice in video cards. Their current offerings are crap. A mobile graphics card in the iMac? Are you kidding me?

These high res screens will put a dent in performance, thats for sure.
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The worst case scenario is that you have to run the game at a normal resolution like 1920x1080 instead of say 3840x2160. It'll look the same as it does now and be great for everything else.

Would you rather have a very hot and loud graphics card? I don't think so.
 
Another one of those Microsoft-istic "That's a great idea, Apple...we'll copy your idea and sell it in our OS so it can be used on all PC hardware and we will make hundreds of billions of dollars off this great idea. Thanks for the retina-fantasic heads-up, Apple. You are such a cool company!"
 
Until about the last year the whole iMac was mobile

wikus said:
Apple first needs to give its customer REAL choice in video cards. Their current offerings are crap. A mobile graphics card in the iMac? Are you kidding me?

These high res screens will put a dent in performance, thats for sure.
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You must have forgotten that the iMac had a mobile processor in it until the 27" iMacs. The lcd screened iMac has always been a laptop without a battery. I wanted a large laptop & Apple made the iMac for me for that purpose. Now you want them to go totally away from that & make the iMac totally into a desktop. I used to carry a IIci without the plastic case in a much smaller wood case with a 16 lb 15 in Viewsonic LCD to several hundred customers houses. Later the IIci was replaced with a PowerMac 9500/9600 class machine. By time I got a 17" laptop I changed to doing 99% of my work in my office. So now I use a Mac Pro so that I can use up to 7 displays in the 28 - 50" range. With Apple you need to get a Mac Pro. There may be hope for you with the new Thunderbolt Macs. Because Thunderbolt is an extension of the PCIe buss there are or will be PCIe boxes that may let you add the video card of your choice.

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SilianRail said:
Matte screen please. Can someone explain what could take advantage of 3840x2160?
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Either much finer photography or maybe just a larger display. This would allow the 32 MPixel camera to display more of their images without cropping so much or lowering its resolution.
 
NakedPaulToast said:
You jumped to a silly conclusion. The problem is in this neighborhood, others will just start taking your silly made up conclusion and it will become another MacRumors fact.
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I hope you don't think that was my intention. Not everybody gets pleasure from making things up on the internet (though too much do). I kind of assumed the twitter guy quoted the MS spokesperson directly in real time. You know, like those live coverages of Apple conferences all tech blogs do. I see your point now, it must be an interpretation by the twitter guy to simplify it to most people. My bad.
 
Cougarcat said:
So would I, but Apple would rather put in a mobile GPU if it meant a thinner profile. They have different priorities than us, unfortunately.
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It sounds like what you want is a Mac Pro. You probably don't want to pay for it, though.

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accessoriesguy said:
ironically we can not really see the image as intended since we are limited to our monitors display capabilities 😛

Thanks though!
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I can because I have a 2560x1600 monitor. =D

Of course, I'd have to step away a few meters away from it to see it at correct size cuz it's 30".
 
MacintoshMan said:
Would love to see apple focus on their computers again. It's all been iPods, iPhones, iPads...

I got my wallet ready for a redesigned Macbook Pro (non unibody fan here)
The rumors been over the last 8 months that apple was looking to do a complete redesin and overhaul. Aswell as ad super high res displays.

Hope that this happens in February or something along those lines, the Macbook Pros are kind of dull unless you spend over 2k.

Also, because everyone thinks their a visionary genius by shooting down the idea (thus impeding technological adavancement) there are a ton of amazing advantages to such high res displays.

1) Text becomes much smoother, you don't notice the difference till you compare.
2) You can fit much more on one screen (This makes a big difference for DJ's or anyone that have to cram allot in such a small space
3) when working with 4k red footage, you can now view at full resolution.

Basically it helps any "PRO" mac user, those who use our computers for a living. Anyone that casually uses their Mac for facebook and iTunes won't really benefit and neither will understand the point.

Suck it haters.
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Awesome post, man. unabashed and true, through and through.
 
Well "The Witcher 2" is one of the most graphically intensive games out right now on PC. At 2560x1440, I still average ~45fps with a single GTX570, it's definitely very enjoyable. GPUs are also getting faster and faster, by the time 2160p comes out --- I doubt performance will be much of an issue.
 
WardC said:
Another one of those Microsoft-istic "That's a great idea, Apple...we'll copy your idea and sell it in our OS so it can be used on all PC hardware and we will make hundreds of billions of dollars off this great idea. Thanks for the retina-fantasic heads-up, Apple. You are such a cool company!"
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Retina display is a particular application for resolution independece, a subject of concern from both companies in the last decade. "Retina" (or massive resolution support to not infringe Apple's IP) is just the obvious consequence when you buy a huge-res monitor and have a resolution independent (or almost) UI.


I would like to see an all-vetorial UI (if it was SVG-compliant it would be nice and easily interchangeable between third-party "UI-themes").
 
WardC said:
Another one of those Microsoft-istic "That's a great idea, Apple...we'll copy your idea and sell it in our OS so it can be used on all PC hardware and we will make hundreds of billions of dollars off this great idea. Thanks for the retina-fantasic heads-up, Apple. You are such a cool company!"
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Since when high PPI screens or high resolution screen or resolution independence has been an Apple idea?
 
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