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Microsoft Announces Intel Atom-Based Surface 3 With Windows 8.1 for $499
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Painfully obvious you can't stand any criticism about Windows. Instead you blame it on user error for someone expressing their displeasure of it. Interesting....you're getting so worked up about what I said about Windows....I could've sworn this is an Apple Enthusiasts forum. Day by day it just shows that MR needs to change the name of this place, not in favor of Apple.
I can stand criticism just fine, I'm doing nothing more than showing the fallacy of your claims. What you can't stand is someone saying something positive about a non-Apple product, or maybe you're only like this when someone says something good about MS/Windows? Like your reply below to someone who said something favorable about the Surface 3
Thanks for stating something that wasn't exactly news.
Right and how long has the Surface been out? Yeah and by all this time Apple has not seen it as a threat. Outside of the stylus there's nothing much different than any other Windows tablet/notebook.
Oh and the "Usable Mechanical Keyboard" comes with it right?
I'm far from worked up. I find it amusing that all you've done in this thread is reply to positive comments about this product with unfounded negativity... Or to put it more simply... Ignorance.
Perhaps I over reacted a tad, lol. No worries, seriously.
Yeah, sracer put active in quotes which was appropriate. According to Google the Surface also use Wacom technology.
I think that relates to possibilities, not experience. Using desktop applications on a tablet is not the same as using tablet applications. Since the possibility is there, then there's less incentive for developers to create applications that are great on a tablet. I think a tablet should make use of it's own native interface and own it.
And all you've done is personally attack me no matter what I say or opinions I express.
If by saying you don't know how to use Windows, constitutes a personal attack, then I suppose I did.
I mean, you clearly don't know how to avoid the tiles in Windows 8, which is quite easy to do, and you manage to get yourself lost in the registry to uninstall a program, which is completely unnecessary... These came from you, not from me.
Your problem is you dislike windows so much that you start making outlandish claims about it, and when you get called out on those claims you cry that you're being attacked personally. No one to blame for that but yourself. Tim Cook, Apple Inc, may appreciate you sacrificing your dignity to defend their products and berate others, but they aren't going to jump in the fire with you or write you a check for your troubles. Try being a little more objective and honest with your posts and I assure you the type of replies you get will also be more to your liking.
I prefer the N-Trig because there's no parallax - wherever I touch the pen, that's where the ink shows up
But pretty much every artist who was used to a Wacom hated the move. Including the guy from Penny Arcade
Painfully obvious you can't stand any criticism about Windows. Instead you blame it on user error for someone expressing their displeasure of it. Interesting....you're getting so worked up about what I said about Windows....I could've sworn this is an Apple Enthusiasts forum. Day by day it just shows that MR needs to change the name of this place, not in favor of Apple.
Being an Apple enthusiast doesn't mean you have to bash Windows.
Being this is an Apple-Enthusiast board Apple gets more hate here. Sad truth. And I don't have celebrate Windows here. I can express my displeasure for it whether anyone likes it or not.
I've got the original Surface, it's build quality is unsurpassed as far as I'm concerned.
The guy from Penny Arcade had some early issues with it, but it sounds like Microsoft responded to them quickly. Whenever he writes about using the Surface now, it's pretty glowing.
I've got the HP Stream 8 with 1gb ram, it's amazing how well it runs, I don't know what they've done to these machines but they run really well on low ram. Windows 10 runs even better, so these machines will be no problems with 2gb ram.
I've had 4 iPads but it looks like my iPad days are coming to an end, they're okay for casual use but not really for more Professional stuff.
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It's completely different, I know what you mean about the 4gb on a desktop, but I have a Hp Stream 8 with 1gb ram and it runs pretty well and it comes with MS Office.
Go to a store and play around with some of these tablets and you'll see what I mean.
I've also got the original Surface which runs really well after a lot of updates. I've also got an iPad Air which hopefully will be my last iPad with all this new stuff coming out.
But they will run the new gen Intel CPU's. I also wonder with the new MacBook how much longer is the Air range going to survive?
You'r right, that is pretty neat. The lower end chips seem to have some decent power. That video made me want vodka and coffee liqueur.
I didn't see any apps that would convert hand written music. I saw a lot of sheet music apps. Nothing like that.
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You don't have any idea what you're talking about, go and play around with some of these Windows tablets.
I'd say you're probably running Windows Vista on a 10 year old computer.
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You obviously haven't seen Windows 10.
Surface Pro is every bit as good in the "build quality" department as Macbook anything. Hate on Microsoft all you want but the SP3 is an absolute BEAST of a machine. It can, quite literally, replace any high end laptop on the market. I can see many business going the way of it due to the portability of it. I work for a fairly big contractor and IT is already beginning to roll out SP3's for Project Managers and Field personnel.
I have a Macbook Pro and a Surface Pro 3. Nine times out of Ten, I grab my SP to do work in the office or travel.
What do you mean by this exactly? The ability to create music from music scores has been included in sequencers since the Atari ST days. I'd be very surprised if there are no apps that lets you do this for iOS.
I'm interested in seeing how it will be further refined, battery life etc. with Windows 10 and the new Intel processors maybe it will be fanless and have 8 hr battery life.
That's because Windows uses a paging file to cache apps and acts like RAM. But it's not a good idea IMO to run with bare minimum of RAM then make up for it by using your SSD as RAM. The paging file and an SSD is not an excuse to run full time with 2GB of RAM.
No it won't. Windows 8.1 has a built in scheduled task that performs regular maintenance on WinSXS.
Microsoft do get it and have done for a number of years.
It's the people still going on about the Microsoft of old that don't get it.
johnnyturbouk
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I agree, for the first time in over 8 years, i am actually paying attention to what microsoft is developing, within the context of hardware.
I am however, entirely comfortable within my ios/osx universe. I tried android [a nexus 7] and hated the UI, and quickly reverted back to my ipad. With the iphone 6 plus, i am doing far more on my iphone, therefore, my needs for a tablet are now different. My only hesitations is that the apps available from the MS store seem a little anaemic in comparison to ios app store, although the fact that the surface runs full fat windows is intriguing. Besides win NT at work, i have not used windows since win 7 [which i detested]. Never tried windows 8, and know very little of win 10.
Finally, the ipads have that gorgeous display, 2048x1536 resolution at 264 pixels. I would find the S3 a step backwards in terms of display, imho.
Makes me laugh,
Apple release a completely under powered , one port machine that sells for 1800 $au and people lap it up.
Microsoft release the same under powered machine, however build quality is comparable, has more ports, has touch screen, and N-trig technology, all for a similar price of an ipad and far less than the macbook. And a lot of people on here are bashing the power and specs of the machine?
Why not use the same excuses and say " Oh it's perfect for people who travel and edit word documents" Besides windows is far more adapted for under powered specs compared to OSX.
you see 8 inch super small tablets that can run full windows and the legacy apps... let me know when you can do that on a mac. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate macs. Infact when I get my tax return I'm going to be getting a macbook pro 13 inch.
But the amount of fud and lies on this thread is hilarious.
Apple release a completely under powered , one port machine that sells for 1800 $au and people lap it up.
Microsoft release the same under powered machine, however build quality is comparable, has more ports, has touch screen, and N-trig technology, all for a similar price of an ipad and far less than the macbook. And a lot of people on here are bashing the power and specs of the machine?
Why not use the same excuses and say " Oh it's perfect for people who travel and edit word documents" Besides windows is far more adapted for under powered specs compared to OSX.
you see 8 inch super small tablets that can run full windows and the legacy apps... let me know when you can do that on a mac. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate macs. Infact when I get my tax return I'm going to be getting a macbook pro 13 inch.
But the amount of fud and lies on this thread is hilarious.
johnnyturbouk
macrumors 68000
well shock and horror, this is a website that "aggregates Mac and Apple related news, rumors, and reports". Of course you will get apple die hard loyalist - fanbois/girls. Why does this surprise you?
It is akin to bitching and moaning about ps4 bashing on xbox forum,
Not sure how 2GB of RAM is even possible with Windows. Even Windows 10 isn't that efficient, with nothing running W10 is sitting at 2.5GB of RAM running on my desktop.