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I was sitting at a round table the other day with several friends and we all had iPads. We were lamenting our inability to click the lids and keyboards rhythmically while tossing them across the table to each other.

We were actually using them for real work. Not so much fun but much more productive.

what kind of work? I don't mean to be funny but people keep saying they work on their iPad. I am self-employed, love mine but honestly with the exception of expense tracking (Expensify!), account balancing, some invoicing and other lightweight admin tasks, I can't seem to find a need for it.
 
The surface pro (2) is actually a great device
For students - specially for those who need to draw (design engineering etc).

I don't think it's that bad of a device

I actually agree. The Surface Pro is an interesting device for anyone who does a good bit of work on a Wacom tablet and is looking for a portable solution. I don't think I'll be getting one, but I certainly would like to spend some time on (real) Photoshop on one just to check it out. The prices are still a little crazy for this format of device, but it's easy to understand why: It's just a laptop in a smaller case.

The regular surface... well, not so much. Just another tablet.
 
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Wait a minute. Sales were dismal for the Surface right? So why make a 2?

It was not a big enough failure.... they ONLY had to write off 50%. If they can write off 65-70%, it will be a big victory for Balmer. Always looking to raise those numbers!
 
I love Apple but the Surface is really a better product than the iPad. I mean it! I love my Surface Pro over my iPad 3.
 
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Microsoft, oh, Microsoft.

Is this worth the (financial) risk??

I guess we'll wait and see...
 
Why is Microsoft news always on here?

The Surface failed, they should only take orders of the Surface 2 and produce it on demand for those orders.
 
nice but pricing increment over storage space is scam by both Apple & Microsoft

It's not a scam, it's a profit strategy. They sell the low end version as cheap as they can to get the customer's attention. Then, if you want more storage, you pay a premium for the higher end model. You see this in the auto industry, too. The entry model doesn't have a lot of features, but you can get a car that drives, has A/C and a radio. If you want built in GPS, you're going to have to pay $2,000 for something that costs a tenth of that. If these industries only sold the entry level model they'd be out of business. Same as if they only sold the high end model. It's the combination of low price model and marked up, over-priced model that keeps them in business.
 
As someone who is old enough to have seen the whole MS vs Apple battle for the desktop, this is truly a mirror reflection of that.

Just like Apple before, no one will give the underdog (now MS), any consideration when buying a tablet or phone. And while they have a decent product in the Surface and Windows 8, no one wants to jump on board a platform with a single digit market share.

The difference is that Microsoft has absolutely no taste. And I don't mean that in a small way, I mean that in a big way. :D
 
Ummm, the title of this website is MacRumours and it's about Apple Mac and iOS news.

Who gives a rat about Windoze stuff...
 
I love Apple but the Surface is really a better product than the iPad. I mean it! I love my Surface Pro over my iPad 3.

Look, I just posted about how I think the Surface Pro is actually a good device, but now you're going to make me regret it. It's a really good device for portable pen-related work especially, but you can't compare tablets with that much price variance. If you want to compare an iPad you have to compare against the Surface RT. A base iPad is $500. A base Surface Pro is $900.
 
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"...graphics performance by 50 percent and battery life by 75 percent. Overall performance is said to be up 20 percent..."

It really takes a rocket scientist to figure out why S2 will be successful
 
They don't seem to have analysed the reason it failed in the first place. It still has all the things that made it a failure but with an upgraded spec. I find it hard to understand what the people at M$ are hoping to achieve with this. If it had been a substantially new device that addressed issues that had been raised with the original and took the the whole surface project in a new direction then great, but this is more of the same with bells on.
 
My gosh, if Apple did a keynote like this and put out this uninspiring "upgrade" MR and the rest of the world would be jumping down Apple's throat.
All MS offered was an incremental upgrade and boring at that. Spec bump. No new features, no new exterior design of the already boxy cabinet. Even worse is they didn't even demo the new features they touted. No demo of the "75% improved battery life" on Surface Pro 2. No demo of the upgraded GPU and I guess there's not much to demo with the full HD screen.

All in all boring upgrade and there's no point in talking about the Surface 2, there's just nothing to talk about. The naming scheme is even worse now since it can easily trick a customer into thinking they are getting a full fledged Windows machine for a low price. NOT.
 
The difference is that Microsoft has absolutely no taste. And I don't mean that in a small way, I mean that in a big way. :D

This is everything.

MSFT has far too much a corporate culture to have any artistic sensibilities.

It is this art direction in design that caused everyone to go with Apple in the first place.
 
I truly, honestly, can't possibly see a reason why anyone would want a surface Pro over a MBA...even if one were to exclusively use Windows 8...as a wild saturday night activity, I installed windows 8 on my MBA and it ran extremely well with a reasonably high nova bench score at 550. The trackpad scrolling allows navigation via gestures, much like a touch screen would, without turning the screen into a layer of smudgy prints. Ironic that Microsoft's best product to run their OS is a Mac rather than Microsoft's own computer.
 
Terrible machine

My friend bought one of these bc his 6 year old Acer laptop barely works. He thought it would be cool (for reverence he doesn't have a gmail account and has no idea what Dropbox is) - I tried to set it up for him and couldn't bc it froze, repeatedly. He is back to using his limping laptop.
 
Most people don't care about office on a tablet. Especially when it's not optimized for touch. Plus I use excel every day at work. The last thing I want to do is use it when I get home.

Its awesome for students which IMO should be who the surface rt appeals too. Cheap but does everything a student needs. At least non science or engineering degrees
 
It was not a big enough failure.... they ONLY had to write off 50%. If they can write off 65-70%, it will be a big victory for Balmer. Always looking to raise those numbers!

Write off 50%?

Where are you getting your source?
 
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