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Odd that he never once went to where the Start menu used to be isn't it? He spends most of his time where the volume and clock used to be. Mighty strange that a veteran Windows user would do that. I can only image how lost he'd be the first time he used iOS or OSX.

Lost first time with iOS? Seriously? Where does that leave android?
 
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It's because he is looking for visual clues that don't exist. Can anyone tell me how to display folders in the mail program on Win8. Mail on OSX at least gives you a visual clue.
 
Now this is funny enough, so what if the ms employees likes apple stuff, it is good, they are barring their rights essentially, not cool ms, either be good or follow the race:D

If they like it they can buy it with their own money. This only restricts company funds.
 
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Odd that he never once went to where the Start menu used to be isn't it? He spends most of his time where the volume and clock used to be. Mighty strange that a veteran Windows user would do that. I can only image how lost he'd be the first time he used iOS or OSX.

There's a video for that too - and he does surprisingly well overall. He at least opened some programs.

As for the Start button - most users wouldn't expect a button to just appear when there is nothing there to hint.
Why bother putting the icons/clock in the lower corner but not the Start menu!!??
 
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It's because he is looking for visual clues that don't exist. Can anyone tell me how to display folders in the mail program on Win8. Mail on OSX at least gives you a visual clue.

I'd be willing to bet that the first place most people would go would be to the old start icon location, not the volume and clock area. Force of habit would dictate this.
 
That's somewhat irrational IMO. It's an ego thing, obviously. If a product is creating a more fluid and efficient workflow, it shouldn't matter. Ridiculous, if this is true...
 
About 15 years in enterprise storage business. I can easily count the days when I found a critical server running on OSX. People just don't trust Apple to handle the most mission-critical data. Had a chance to see XSAN in a client's environment. It was very obvious Apple has no idea about enterprise business. My lab never needed to buy any Apple product so far, let's see how long will that continue.
 
I don't understand how some of you 1. Have a hard time understanding why they do this 2. Have an issue with them doing this.

Why would they want their money spent on a competitors product? MS employees can purchase anything they want with their own money. IF apple products are needed for the day to day working at MS then they will be purchased. Use your head people, you think apple wants their employees spending company cash on MS products?

Now this is funny enough, so what if the ms employees likes apple stuff, it is good, they are barring their rights essentially, not cool ms, either be good or follow the race:D
Obviously you didn't take the time to read the article/post.

I don't blame them. Maintenance and just purchasing Apple products costs way too much. Company funds should be used wisely on products that get the job done the best way, not the trendyish way.
Wow sometimes the truth hurts as all the mark downs show.

My $2499 Mbp 17 inch is so much nicer :) and I've had no major issues.
Of course you just stated a personal opinion. I personally don't like apple computers so your 2499 MBP would be crap for me and a $700 PC would be perfect. You can't say something sucks simply because YOU don't like it.

How's Mountain Lion working out for you compared to Windows 8? I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on how they compare.
I would suspect they have no clue but I don't either so??
 
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I guess that memo didn't exist in 1997 when Microsoft bailed Apple out to the tune of $150 million. People forget that we probably wouldn't have iAnything without Microsoft.

Apple would have got more money from Microsoft if they had pursued a lawsuit about the stolen Quicktime code. Apple had plenty of cash, plenty of credit, and they had Microsoft by the balls for copyright infringement.
 
The real reason is no iTunes for metro.

Apple is not going to support Windows 8 with iTunes metro. No Apple support means the product is DOA. :eek:
 
This is lunacy.

MS is not in competition with the Mac. MS is only in competition with OS X (via windows). The smart thing would be to say you can use any computer you can as long as you use and run windows at work. And a Mac with bootcamp does this very well.

Maybe MS is scared of the Mac halo. MS workers liking the Mac and moving then to OS X and iOS and not W7/8 and W7/8 mobile. I think it's a very short sited strategy. A happy worker is a more productive worker. If I worked for MS I'd want to work in bootcamp all day via a MBP. And I'm sure the workers who also want to do this but are forced out of this option would not be happy at all.

Personally I'd like MS to really embrace iOS. And get Office for iOS out there. And other MS offerings too. There's a huge market there. And some good profit to be made. But I don't think MS is willing to do this.
 
I guess that memo didn't exist in 1997 when Microsoft bailed Apple out to the tune of $150 million. People forget that we probably wouldn't have iAnything without Microsoft.

LOL. Apple had $1.2 BILLION in cash when that happened.

$150 Million isn't enough to save a company Apple's size that's going down the tubes. It was a token gesture by Microsoft mostly because they were being investigated for monopoly/anti-competitive practices.

You remind me of the uneducated people I talked to back then who were under the impression Microsoft owned Apple after that. Yeah... Microsoft bought a multi-billion dollar company for $150 mil. :rolleyes:
 
I guess that memo didn't exist in 1997 when Microsoft bailed Apple out to the tune of $150 million. People forget that we probably wouldn't have iAnything without Microsoft.

And without that deal you have:

Apple bankrupt and out of business.

And

MS up for multiple anti-trust monopolisation lawsuits they probably would not have won.

So both entered the deal for their own self interests. It just happened be a good deal for both sides. There was no charity from MS towards Apple. It was 150 million so avoid some very ugly lawsuits? Yes please.
 
I work as an external consultant for the Marketing part of this group from time to time. We haven't been allowed to carry iGadgets at their trade shows since the 2009 ban on buying iPhones with company money came into force. Also using my MBP at these events doesn't go down that well.

It's perfectly understandable rule though and I'm actually surprised that it hasn't been formalised before. Using a competitors product while you convincing someone to buy yours is never going to work, even if you believe that what you are selling makes business sense. For example if I'm running a demo from my iPad to get someone to buy a Windows 8 tablet and they need the full Windows domain integration (e.g. Group polices), my poing will be lost on the CEO who just wants an iPad :)

Is Windows 8 going to be a disaster? They jury is still out on that. It will be a major change and as most enterprise organisations are still rolling out Windows 7, take up will be slow. Having said that, Mountain Lion isn't a major upgrade at all so comparing the two is pointless.

The Windows 8 Server product is brilliant though and will be appearing in corporate datacenters shortly after launch.
 
I used the consumer preview of Windows 8 for a day at work. It's a disaster that will see unparalleled abandonment of the IT/Business community.

I'm on the consumer preview right now. I hated it at first. Then I used it for more than 2 hours. Now I think it's alright. About the worst I can say about it is that it isn't what I'd consider a necessary upgrade. It's nice for what it is. Has some good ideas floating about, runs a little thinner and lighter than 7. But, eh. It's not so big of a jump that I'll feel the need to run out and plunk down $80-199 for it on day one.

The way it's being treated is pretty much the same way all MS OS upgrades have been treated since the inception of the platform. Basically, when they release a new OS, say the previous version is perfect, MS doesn't know what they're doing, and the new version is a complete waste that'll eventually bring the company to ruin. Right now, everyone is talking about sticking to 7. But when Windows 9 comes out, it'll have some new feature everyone will hate, and will say 8 was perfect. It's the big cycle 'o dumb.
 
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A lot of people here doesn't seem to be able to read. This policy doesn't prevent employees from buying Apple products or barr them of any rights as someone wrote, it's simply a policy that the company's money should not be used to buy Apple products. I'm pretty sure Apple doesn't allow their employees to buy Windows workstations at Apple's expense either (apart from the Windows software division of course)

Odd that he never once went to where the Start menu used to be isn't it? He spends most of his time where the volume and clock used to be. Mighty strange that a veteran Windows user would do that. I can only image how lost he'd be the first time he used iOS or OSX.

Yeah, where everything is invisible until you hover the mouse pointer in the right spot (OS X) or no visibile cues are given until you start pulling the workspace in different directions (iOS)

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What no Apple employees are allowed to purchase Apple products with company funds????:p

"similar" vs. "identical" :p
 
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