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Microsoft Barring Many of its Employees from Buying Apple Products with Company Funds?
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Yeah, but this is the MacRumors forum, where Apple am king and anything negative about MS is basically christmas.
Looking forward to Office for iPad.
For what it's worth, iWork is much better than Office in my opinion. If Documents in the Cloud can mature a bit in Mountain Lion, I see less and less people using Office at all.
That's the stupidest thing I've heard. Picture yourself as the CEO of Coca Cola. How would you feel if you saw your employees drinking Pepsi on the job? If the people who work for you don't demonstrate loyalty to your brand, then get rid of them.
Maybe. But I think it's not very likely because of everyone I know in the business world - only a small few use iWork. And if they do - they end up saving their files in Word format to share them.
Office is still pretty much the gold standard and has deep penetration with companies having a lot of investments in it.
The article was meant to be deceive, at least to a point elicit the exact type of responses you see here. Gee, do you think that other company, say Ford, allows employees to buy GM products using company money (other than for product comparisons)?
This is a non-story. Frankly, if I were on the board at MS, I'd be pushing hard as hell on the fact that Macs can run Windows. Sell more copies of the OS, that's their goal. I think Apple would benefit from even more widespread adoption into enterprise if MS were helping market that fact. And if Apple did a better job marketing the fact that their hardware was of a higher quality and less prone to failure, the price issue you always hear would be less of an issue.
This is a non-story. Frankly, if I were on the board at MS, I'd be pushing hard as hell on the fact that Macs can run Windows. Sell more copies of the OS, that's their goal. I think Apple would benefit from even more widespread adoption into enterprise if MS were helping market that fact. And if Apple did a better job marketing the fact that their hardware was of a higher quality and less prone to failure, the price issue you always hear would be less of an issue.
MS has some really good apps out there for iOS. I just realized how few apps I have and that at least 3 are MS apps: Photosynth, SkyDrive, and Lync 
Can't wait for office for the iPad.
Yay Microsoft!
Can't wait for office for the iPad.
Yay Microsoft!
ms is going thru a bad phase i would say, lack of vision and non sense leadership of great ballmer
Don't blame Ballmer, only. He's just following the lead of Gates. Gates absolutely forbid any Mac product in his personal household. His kids were not allowed to have iPods. They all had Zunes, and I'm sure they were really happy about that -- not!
Now this is funny enough, so what if the ms employees likes apple stuff, it is good, they are barring their rights essentially, not cool ms, either be good or follow the race
barring rights? - give me a break!
you wouldn't have a honda salesman wear a ford polo on the sales floor!
Here is an example of a problem Apple needs to overcome, related specifically to Office. We have all Macs at home and the two I use (one of which the kids are allowed to use) run iWork, not Office. My wife has Office on her mbp, but she doesn't bring it home all the time. The schools in Evanston, where we live, are primarily pc based and even if they have Macs, will run Office. So when his teacher tells him to create a Word document with specific guidelines, what he hears is that he HAS to use Word and that Pages will not work. I've showed him just how similar they are, how much easier it can be to use Pages, but guess what? Because his teacher tells him to use Word, that is the only thing he thinks he can use. One argument we had, he wanted to call the teacher to prove to me that she would only accept Word documents - which of course wasn't the case, but the fact that he thinks this way tells me Apple has a long battle ahead of it.
Unless Apple does a better job selling the interoperability between Pages and Word, they'll be fighting a losing battle. MS has great brand equity with Office, regardless of whether it's the best solution or not.
Why am I not surprised? At least Microsoft is consistent (at putting out third-rate, buggy, and malware-ridden software).
So if Microsoft applies it's rules exactly, the only admitted company phones are Nokia's ones, but just the one with windows OS.
As soon they will build PCs they will have a PC to work on... too.
Smart choice...
What applications have MS released that are malware-ridden? Can you give me a list?
Hopefully, this vacuum that shields Microsoft from Apple products should spawn more internal creativity like the Windows Phone and Internet Explorer 9.
(Tongue in cheek.)
(Tongue in cheek.)
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The barfight is over, MicroSoft. Clear your head!
This move could have made sense when they were in the midst of the Long/Goodman commercials and were fighting for OS mindshare.
But that was then and this is now. With laptops and portable devices being where all of the action has now gone to, and desktops slowly moving into a niche area (actually, galloping into a niche market, but this reality always seems to push buttons for readers), then Microsoft's ban seems rather pointless. I could see it if they had said that they want their OS being used on whatever gear is out there though.
I see Microsoft as that entitled, drunk and obnoxious Business Major, staggering in the bar all night looking for a fight, convinced that his trust fund is some sign of his superiority, and finally has been schooled by the young hip software/hardware design double Major student (do I have to say it? Apple). As the groggy, overweight braggart gets back to his feet, only now starting to realize that not only did he lose, but that the fight has been over for a while with everyone relieved that he's out of the picture, with their backs to him all enjoying a drink with that hip guy at the bar. Hurt and despondent, he yells out "I forbid my family or my servants from drinking with you", but isn't heard over the laughter and cheer at the bar.
Sad, really.
This move could have made sense when they were in the midst of the Long/Goodman commercials and were fighting for OS mindshare.
But that was then and this is now. With laptops and portable devices being where all of the action has now gone to, and desktops slowly moving into a niche area (actually, galloping into a niche market, but this reality always seems to push buttons for readers), then Microsoft's ban seems rather pointless. I could see it if they had said that they want their OS being used on whatever gear is out there though.
I see Microsoft as that entitled, drunk and obnoxious Business Major, staggering in the bar all night looking for a fight, convinced that his trust fund is some sign of his superiority, and finally has been schooled by the young hip software/hardware design double Major student (do I have to say it? Apple). As the groggy, overweight braggart gets back to his feet, only now starting to realize that not only did he lose, but that the fight has been over for a while with everyone relieved that he's out of the picture, with their backs to him all enjoying a drink with that hip guy at the bar. Hurt and despondent, he yells out "I forbid my family or my servants from drinking with you", but isn't heard over the laughter and cheer at the bar.
Sad, really.
Many years ago when I worked at Warner-Lambert, a pharmaceutical company that also had some consumer products, they owned Schick, who had a new razor. Gillette had their new Sensor razor and I asked every guy, even the product managers what they used...they told me the Gillette Sensor, lol.
There was no rule that you couldn't, but I found it funny at the time. I think this goes on in a lot of places.
There was no rule that you couldn't, but I found it funny at the time. I think this goes on in a lot of places.
You're completely missing the point. This has nothing to do with internal creativity or being shielding from Apple. It has everything to do with Microsoft wanting employees "eating their own dogfood."
It's nothing new. It's very commonplace. The most controversial aspect of this is the "sensationalist" headline/article on this site.
Precisely. Except for the Mac group at Microsoft, nobody has any reason to use Macs instead of Windows PCs. And I doubt that you will find Windows machines on the Apple campus outside of Apple's Windows team. (Okay, you will find A LOT of Solaris servers in Apple's data centers since they don't trust their own OS X Server to be up for the job. But that is another story.)
You do understand that Microsoft isn't making employees pick one or the other ultimately. They are saying they will not pay for competing products from their budget. Employees can buy whatever they want and use whatever they want. Just not on the company dime.
If you worked for an airline - do you think the company would pay for business travel on another airline. Or do you think they would restrict employees to flying their own airline if they were footing the bill. No different.
If you worked for motorola - would you expect motorola to pay for employees buying samsung phones?
If you worked at McDonald's - would you expect the company to pay for lunches bought at Burger King?
Yes. In the next installment of your lessons about the superiority of iWork, you will explain to the gigantic third party market around Microsoft Office how they can integrate their software in Apple's non-existent iWork ecosystem. For example, explain how you would modify the Sage Office Line business software that it can use iWork...
I know it's not the same thing, it was just a quick story about people using (and preferring) competitors products.