What's so hard about sharing Pages documents within a company? The problem I have with Pages and Keynote is that the documents are stored as folders, which can be annoying.
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What's so hard about sharing Pages documents within a company? The problem I have with Pages and Keynote is that the documents are stored as folders, which can be annoying.
Poor tools make for poor products. Hard to escape the relationship, especially when you see the poor products every day.
No tool or product that I have ever seen in my entire life is better for being more complex. Complicating the complex is easy. Simplifying the complex is difficult, it is an art.
Must be nice to work in an all Mac environment, hope I get to after I leave college.
I did not say the need didn't exist. That isn't even even close to what I actually said. Barely on the same planet, you might say.
Oh, he's right
I love organizing a work project through long, sloppy thread of Outlook e-mail. It's so... clear... why, it's a standard POS.
I love organizing a work project through long, sloppy thread of Outlook e-mail. It's so... clear... why, it's a standard POS.
again, the surface is made to be a business device and casual browsing. you can actually be productive on it. for most people, ipads are just for data consumption.... shopping online, browsing, etc. two different philosophies. what's hard to understand? 
That was part of what I found amazing. Microsoft was able to get people to embrace a bloated and overpriced mess called Word, and demand nothing less, and then use, for many clients, less than 5% of the capabilities of the product. I can't think of a bad analogy that comes close to this... Maybe buying a Lamborghini to get the mail out of the mail box at the end of a 20 foot driveway? Getting a Hummer H1 to drive over the single speed bump at the entrance to the subdivision? I mean, DANG...
Plus I had opened a case with Microsoft support after a client that had a lot of documents detonate demanded an answer. We sent the files to Microsoft, and we waited... Almost two weeks went by, and finally we got the news that the files were filed with, in the technical words of the Microsoft engineer 'fluff'. It would seem that every time the files were opened and saved, they picked up some 'fluff' and the files would get so complex with this 'fluff' that Word would eventually corrupt parts of the metadata and the files were 'detonated'. We had to save files as text only, and then start a new document and then open the text only docs and then reset up the formatting.
Yeah...
That was Word...
They figured out a way to 'simplify' their documents, and grew to loath Word...
I feel like you didn't read what I typed. Let me try once more.
1) You are falsely blaming the tools for bad products. The real problem is poor users who have no idea how to put together a presentation. I've seenand assembledexcellent PowerPoint presentations. I've also seen horrible Keynote presentations.
2) You confuse complexity where it is necessary with complexity for the sake of complexity. All things being equal, simpler is better, but sometimes, complex solutions are unavoidable. If reducing dimensionality decreases accuracy, for example, the user themselves has to decide whether that tradeoff is worthwhile given the use cases and the audience. There is no one-size-fits-all rule.
hahaha, I would hardly consider an unreleased experimental gaming focussed OS from an inexperienced company (in OS) to be 'hitting' Microsoft anytime soon.
Why not? Apple up till yesterday rather successfully managed to do exactly that, even worst actually, with OSX.
Yeah because iWorks is so much better right? Sorry but MS is the standard for a reason. Apple has never ever been successful in the business space. The iPad is probably the biggest impact it's ever had, cost has a lot to do with it as well, PC's are cheaper and do the same job.
so you want a touchscreen macbook air? Why should they make it if it isn't successful? Is microsoft making a killing off of the surface?
I don't understand why people get so emotional about this.
All the "MS is doomed", and "Microsoft is jealous" crap is retarded.
Microsoft is a great company that produces the world's leading software.
This article was specifically about iWork on iOS and everything Shaw says is true. Using iWork on an iPad is like pushing a piece of string. Personally, I prefer Pages and Keynote and use them exclusively, but they were already cheap and i won't bother with the iOS versions. Numbers is like the red-headed step child of the iWork family, it doesn't even come close to being an Excel replacement... but then, I can (and do) own and use both.
Microsoft build cross-platform software to work on virtually any computer, that can be all things to all people - from multi-billion dollar companies to home users.
Microsoft have a 95% market share of desktop/laptop operating systems.
There are more computers running Windows today than every Mac product ever made - including the iPad.
Microsoft aren't going anywhere.
I own Microsoft Shares and I'll be holding onto them for at least the next decade.
All the "MS is doomed", and "Microsoft is jealous" crap is retarded.
Microsoft is a great company that produces the world's leading software.
This article was specifically about iWork on iOS and everything Shaw says is true. Using iWork on an iPad is like pushing a piece of string. Personally, I prefer Pages and Keynote and use them exclusively, but they were already cheap and i won't bother with the iOS versions. Numbers is like the red-headed step child of the iWork family, it doesn't even come close to being an Excel replacement... but then, I can (and do) own and use both.
Microsoft build cross-platform software to work on virtually any computer, that can be all things to all people - from multi-billion dollar companies to home users.
Microsoft have a 95% market share of desktop/laptop operating systems.
There are more computers running Windows today than every Mac product ever made - including the iPad.
Microsoft aren't going anywhere.
I own Microsoft Shares and I'll be holding onto them for at least the next decade.
I actually worked at a private university about 1.5 years ago, and we moved off from Novell to Google apps. Wasn't bad at all, I am not a big fan of web mail as the main client, but the students and faculty seemed to love it.
The school made very good use of Hangouts, Google Talk, G Drive, etc, etc.
As per the old yarn, only a poor craftsman blames his tools. Yeah, it's true that Word is more complicated than Pages, but it's not necessarily overly complex in and of itself. Like the Ribbon? Took me no time at all to learn, and my only complaint was that some settings and options were grouped a little too far apart.
Pages is set up to design beautiful looking documents quickly and easily, but is ultimately limited in what it can do. There's only so much variety available to it. Word gives you more options, more ways to do something interesting. This is it's one biggest upside in comparison. The downside is it's not quite as streamlined and immediately accessible.
Much like anything, it all depends on what you want. If you want quick, easy, and nice, you go with Pages. If you want flexibility, you get Word.
The same problem can come about if two people are using different versions of Word, which these days is virtually guaranteed. Compatibility is basically a myth.
Again, if you are even remotely concerned about how your work product will look when someone else views it, then this is why God created PDF. Nobody gets a word processing document from me unless they request it, and need it for a legitimate reason.
Best decision our office ever made: ditch Windows and generic PCs. Go all-in on OSX and Macs. Now our office runs on Mac Pros, iMacs, and iPads. They are a real joy in a networked environment.
We're still running early 2008 Mac Pros, work great. Number of people we have had to pay to resolve technical problems: zero. Employee problems using their computers, OSX, software, networking, communicating: zero.
We have saved an enormous amount of time, money, and frustration working in an all-Apple environment. We don't need garbage Win 8.1, Citrix, MS Exchange Server and all the attendant problems.
Not having to call IT "techs" to merely run a networked environment of computers is fantastic. Thank you Apple. We will continue to buy your products.
We're still running early 2008 Mac Pros, work great. Number of people we have had to pay to resolve technical problems: zero. Employee problems using their computers, OSX, software, networking, communicating: zero.
We have saved an enormous amount of time, money, and frustration working in an all-Apple environment. We don't need garbage Win 8.1, Citrix, MS Exchange Server and all the attendant problems.
Not having to call IT "techs" to merely run a networked environment of computers is fantastic. Thank you Apple. We will continue to buy your products.
Actually, it is. You said, and I quote, "I'd be surprised if more than one out of a hundred people who use Excel actually need it." You preceded it with, "Excel may be indispensable for spreadsheet jocks, but I personally don't know a single one of them."
You committed a basic logical fallacy of applying anecdotal information to the broad population without any sort of proper sampling. Declaring that only 1% of Excel users actually need it is a statement you have neither the evidence nor the qualifications to make.
Actually, I've never run into a document in .doc or .docx that hasn't been able to be opened in Office 2013, even if sometimes it is compatibility view. That's mostly for things not created by Office, though. If you're just going to send PDF, you don't need much. Likely just a text editor.
I don't use iWork so I wouldn't know. I just know I hate plenty of Office. Excel is fine but Word, Power Point and SharePoint suck.
Yep, that's the most accurate way measure a device's popularity - - How many have been seen by MauerFan, the Macrumors user.
Balmer quit? When? Did the stock value skyrocket?
Up 7% on that day. He didn't quit, but it was announced that he would retire.
What? It's basically Debian with all the non-essential guff taken out of it, running on PC hardware. They're not building the entire thing from scratch, just tailoring the experience, and beta testing the hell out of it.
Course it's not guaranteed to be a success. For all we know, it could be doomed to failure from day one. But they've got the right pieces in the right places to possibly make something interesting happen, though what exactly remains to be seen.
What an intelligent statement. Usually one must go to a professional wrestling match to hear such brilliance.