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1. Get into a restoration hobby that involves searching for rare parts.
2. Use Google with very specific keywords and part numbers.

The first 10 results are half-ass (ignore half the keywords). After that, dozens upon dozens of auto-generated results with blurbs that look really promising, but nonsense domain names that lead to ad pages, malware, spyware, auto-redirects, and popups about viruses. You'd think Google could automatically purge garbage.

Tried DuckDuckGo and really like it at first. Nothing wrong with it, but for various reasons, still found myself using Google more. 🤷‍♂️
 
Even if apple didn't receive billions from apple, apple would have chose Google as the default because it is so much better than Bing. Bing was a waste of time. Just to be fair, I have not attempted to use bing in the last 3 years.
 
I wonder if Apple will change its tune after the horrid results Google has been giving as of late. Bing has always been far better at media searches (yes, including those media searches) and lately Bings results have been a lot better than Googles.

I wonder if Apple will change its tune after the horrid results Google has been giving as of late. Bing has always been far better at media searches (yes, including those media searches) and lately Bings results have been a lot better than Googles.
Google is trash nowadays. It’s one or two actual links, then about 50 of those drop-down menu ‘answer’ things, then one or two more links, then more AI generated answer garbage.

It’s become difficult to actually use it as a search engine.
 
Bing is even worse than a wish.com google. The search result quality is just objectively so so bad, it's an embarassment. I can see no world in which Apple would set bing as the default as it would make a horrendously bad user experience to just add that extra step to setting google as your default for better search results.
 
I hope they never change to bing purely because of how bad the news searching experience is on bing. It’s honestly so bad. Everything is a MSN rehost of the actual story.
If only Apple allowed one to choose search engines…
 
Same here. As others have posted, Bings‘s search results aren’t that bad these days. It’s interesting to note the DuckDuckGo uses the Bing search engine but doesn’t track you.
So the ad copy says, their history says otherwise
 
been on DDG (same engine as Bing) for years—lately, when I return to Google for the occasional exceptionally vague “hmm, perhaps Google can find this instead” search, the results have absolutely sucked.

Google really was better 10-20 years ago. ever since ads began looking like real results—so much spam/so many useless results, even with the absurd data collection Google does to this day. plenty have already commented here and it doesn’t seem like my opinion is unpopular: perhaps Apple should reconsider its deal with Bing, purely for user experience.

alas—money.

(edit: @zach-coleman did point out one flaw in the engine, that being news results—they’re all MSN rehosts of the news story rather than the direct link. otherwise though…)
 
The information was disclosed in documents as part of Google's ongoing antitrust case against the U.S. Justice Department (via CNBC).

Well that's just worded in a backwards manner, but the article linked does so also.

The case is against Google, by the DoJ.

The information submitted by Google (wrt Bing) is part of Google's defense filings.
 
Changing to a different search engine in MacOS or iOS is pretty simple. And once you’ve made your choice it remains your default.

While in a Windows environment, changing the search engine is doable just not as straightforward as on a Mac. But the major issue for me are the M$ nag screens “recommending” to change back to Bing, and occasional window updates that change it back to Bing without my consent.

I realize this is more of a M$ Windows issue but nevertheless, it makes me want to avoid Bing at all cost.
 
all microsoft products should be taught to UX designer on how to NOT design software. its the worst thing I tried, all their services.

as for Bing, i still find Google always getting what I want and Bing is censored for political rightness
 
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I believe the final paragraph says it all:
  1. [Apple] Roll your own worse SE and NOT get billions of dollars
  2. Buy a worse Bing and NOT get billions of dollars
  3. Switch to any other worse SE and NOT get billions of dollars
  4. Stick with the best search engine from Google and get billions of dollar

#4 is a no-brainer which benefits both Apple and users.
 
As bad a Bing is, Google right now is also hot garbage. I certainly hope AI upends Google. Intel and Google are two companies lookimg like they will end up in the technology dumpster of the past. I give MS credit for at least trying.
 
I have not used Bing recently but Apple has to do something about replacing Google. I cannot stand the constant nags about installing chrome and signing in everytime I use it now.
 
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Google argues that Microsoft's repeated pitches to Apple demonstrate the competitive nature of the search engine market, countering allegations that Google holds a monopoly in web search advertising.

Now take that same logic and apply it to the Apple App store.
 
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I really want everyone to know Microsoft's invasive data collection practices are worse than Google's right now and their dark design patterns are also sooo much worse. I hate Microsoft with a passion. They're building better products now than ever before but they genuinely make it as hard as possible to opt out of their tracking and platform in general. At least Google has the My Activity privacy portal which makes it incredibly easy to turn off certain data collection. Google are still doing tons of collection but I feel better about using Google every year than I do Microsoft.
 
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