Do you despise the $18,000,000,000 Apple accepts from Google?I despise google so I use bing and it works 97 percent of the time
I understand the argument. But the issue with sideloading beyond the security argument Apple has made (which I think is the most compelling one) is that sideloading devs don’t want to pay anything to Apple.The EU definitely feels that iOS user base is significant which is why they think it's unfairly anticompetitive that Apple has such power, control, dominance, etc. over the mobile OS market. The EU wants to see more app access (sideloading and alternative app stores) competition in that notable segment of the market.
The headline is childish and misleading. Is this the quality of the people on this site? … This is lazy reporting.
I understand the argument. But the issue with sideloading beyond the security argument Apple has made (which I think is the most compelling one) is that sideloading devs don’t want to pay anything to Apple.
So simultaneously they are saying Apple provides nothing of value but at the same time it’s existentially valuable to them as businesses?
It’s only anti competitive if Apple refuses to distribute apps. The eu sees that selling of apps in itself as a competitive thing. But no consumer cares as long as they can get software safely and quickly. And they can.
So it’s a non argument. I truly believe if any of these companies were European owned the EU would not be lobbying. It’s interesting that Spotify is a European company and the companies that will lose out from the DMA stuff are all American.
With Arc Search you can still use Google but it can help you search for information and put it in a page with AI.I hate google and detest bing - there needs to be a new search engine…
This is about Apple stifling app access competition by its restrictions on sideloading and alternative app stores in a major segment of both the mobile and tablet OS markets. The other hope would be that having Apple open up iOS and iPadOS to sideloading and alternative app stores would encourage them to make these operating systems even stronger/better by having to address the availability of sideloading, alternative app stores, etc.
Apple (with iOS) and Google (with Android) dominate the mobile and tablet OS markets and therefore IMO deserve antitrust scrutiny not just in the EU but the U.S. and other countries/regions as well.
The EU have taken testimony from other parties other than Apple and have found that it is possible to provide sufficient security for customer machines if you open up the system.
But the emperical evidence is that iOS products have nowhere near the exploits android has had over the last 15yrs. Some Android phones even have anti virus software running in the background! That’s unheard of on iOS.
So how did they come to this conclusion other than listening to “expert witnesses” who all have a vested interest in the open systems market or security industry?
MacOS although safer than windows is nowhere near as safe as iOS yet people use this as justification for opening up iOS. It’s illogical. It’s just pretty obvious that the more doors are open in any system (or any structure known to man) the more chances their are too exploit that system. That’s just a fact.
Yet the EU are pretending that is not true in the interest of commerce , not consumer benefit or safety. And if iOS were the only system in town as windows pretty much was back in the day, I think the EU would have a point. But it’s not. 80% of users in the eu use a system other than iOS!!
So again, rather than helping me the consumer the EU are removing my right to choose a system that suits my needs to favour some money making corporation who wants to make money out of me. Ridiculous really when you think about it.
Do you despise the $18,000,000,000 Apple accepts from Google?
You said you despised Google.What does that have to do with me?
Not a simple question at all.You said you despised Google.
I asked if you despise Apple for taking $18,000,000,000 from them.
It's a simple question really.
As long as Google is paying Apple$15 billion a year to be the default search engine on iOS / iPadOS, there's no incentive for Apple to do anything. I agree with you but Apple's in love with that money.Apple has to do something about replacing Google
Not a simple question at all.
What does my dislike of google have to do with Apple doing business with google?
I couldn’t care less about apples business anymore than apple couldn’t care less about me disliking google.
So it’s irrelevant
Again what deal apple makes Is irrelevant. I don’t use google so oh well.So, you don't despise Apple for taking $18 billion from despicable Google.
Got it.
Agreed.Again what deal apple makes Is irrelevant. I don’t use google so oh well.
Time to find something else to be bothered by and move on. This is tired.
If I want to search an answer these days, I'll use a search engine later. I'll use the free version of ChatGTP and typically it gives me the specific details of what I was after. From hardware explanations, software explanations, who made what's, specifications etc. ChatGTP for me is 10 times faster than a browser, no matter which one, and I also save even more time by not being distracted.
I'm curious about to what extent it learns. If a user corrects it, or explains that a suggested solution doesn't work, and then it suggests another way, and then the user says "that worked", to what extent does it if at all learn?You will have to know that ChatGPT relies on a search engine (could be google) to search for its results then look into them to find the exact piece of info you need. Thats how it works AFAIK , so search engine quality does affect ChatGPT answer.