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$399.95 for an office suite ???? This is embarrassing :eek:

Why?

Lets say you are a business. Normally you update your office suit once every 3-4 years ( sometimes you keep it for a longer time ) which makes its cost approximately 100 dollars a year.
 
Any chance Office will go Cocoa?

I am sure Microsoft wants to write one base code and use it for both Windows and OS X, but it seems to me that with Macs on the rise, Carbon and PowerPC being abandoned, Microsoft would rewrite the Office applications using Cocoa, top-to-bottom.
 
I second this question. Do 2008 Media Edition and/or Standard edition users great a free crossgrade, or super cheap crossgrade?

so i have the special media edition (from what i gather its the same as the standard edition with extra stuff you dont have to install) do i have to pay for Business to get the entourage update? or will MS push a SP for the existing Standard and Media users?
 
I second this question. Do 2008 Media Edition and/or Standard edition users great a free crossgrade, or super cheap crossgrade?

From what I can tell, the only real difference between this new bundle and what you currently have is Entourage, Web Services Edition (and maybe some more clipart). Entourage WSE has been a free download at MacBU for over a month for current Entourage 2008 users. Document Connection was included in Service Pack 2, which was released this summer.
 
$400 and NO Access, NO Publisher, NO Groove, NO OneNote and NO InfoPath??? AND, thats about $65 more than Office Ultimate for Windows. And, we are supposed to say thank you to Microsoft for giving a nod to Mac users. Sorry, but if you drop four bills on this garbage you're a moron! :rolleyes:
 
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$400 and NO Access, NO Publisher, NO Groove, NO OneNote and NO InfoPath??? AND, thats about $65 more than Office Ultimate for Windows. And, we are supposed to say thank you to Microsoft for giving a nod to Mac users. Sorry, but if you drop four bills on this garbage you're a moron! :rolleyes:

And don't forget that Exchange support in Outlook is more robust than in Entourage (which just got the ability to sync tasks and notes with WSE). If you're already running Windows in a VM, you're arguably better off getting the PC version of Office.
 
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Office 2007 for Windows is one of the more decent products MS has come up with in the last years. I use iWork now, but had a decent version of 2007 come for the Mac, I would switch in a second.
 
2008 is here!! They are ahead of schedule. Well I'm impressed. Damn shame I don't need office.

Gave it up and haven't looked back. I don't even have a windows machine or partition that's been started at all this year. Yay!

M$ software for Mac is the way it is deliberately to undermine the Mac users experience. It runs better on Windows, maybe the next machine we get will be a Windows machine because we are sick of the crappy version of the monopoly software on the Mac.

Apple like OpenOffice use the standards for .doc M$ don't and it's deliberate. There are some interesting papers been published regarding M$ conduct in this way, it's how they operate. 1. support feature/software/company 2. expand the software features not included in standards. 3. introduce their competitive version. 4. Kill or degrade the support for the competitive features/software. This leaves their shiny new software the one that still works well. M$ Office isn't new of course but it's done this all along and it's still doing it. Shoddy Mac support is part of it. MSN also, when was the last time Window Media Player was updated, seems like 10 years to me. Not that I care, just a damn shame that the tactic works.

Can I use Keynote on any other OS system? NO. Can someone edit the presentations I created on Keynote if they dont have keynote? NO ( keynote extension )

Are my Keynote presentation as impressive as in their native format when I save them in other formats? NO.

So why am I always criticizing MS ? I dont know.
 
Not sure

I am not sure this adds enough to interest me.

If they added Visio, Access and Project, then I would be interested. Yes there are other alternatives in the Mac platform, but for full compatability, it would be best if they all came bundled from Microsoft.

I like Pages and Keynote, but when you convert there are always issues, and the transitions are different. If I have a presentation that I must physically provide to a client, I always have to debate between doing it in Keynote or doing it in PowerPoint so I do not have to convert and make adjustments.

BTW, my copy in Keynote always wows them and the powerpoint one underwhelms them, LOL.
 
M$ software for Mac is the way it is deliberately to undermine the Mac users experience.

True that.

Word was an awesome Mac word processor... up through version 5. Then with version 6 it became completely unusable. After that, they realized that making it absolutely horrible wasn't quite the right approach, so they improved it enough for it to just be annoying and cumbersome. They seem to be sticking with that balance, while their Windows software is completely incomparable.
 
Only Access can really work with access databases a program that Microsoft does not seem interested in converting to the mac.
:(

shame that
just bought my first mbp and was looking forward to installing Access on it...

partitioning my HD so i can install windows and Access
 
Can I use Keynote on any other OS system? NO. Can someone edit the presentations I created on Keynote if they dont have keynote? NO ( keynote extension )

This is a small problem.

iWork to MS Office exports are not always 100% perfect, but usually good enough to send around, come back to the iWork user and have the changes integrated back into the main iWork file. I'm not just making excuses; this is a problem that would best be solved with iWork for Windows, but it is not a deal breaker for everyone.

Are my Keynote presentation as impressive as in their native format when I save them in other formats? NO.

This is not a problem.

When exported to QuickTime, Keynote presentations look just as snazzy... transitions and all. Oh, whadda'ya know, I just heard that QuickTime is now available for Windows!
 
Office 2007 Office 2008

I agree. I think it would sell better if it was a clone of the Windows version. Has the Mac BU ever given a reason for creating such akward software in relation to Office 2007?

I have Office 2008 but find it cumbersome and slow. I feel like a traitor for saying this but I now do all my word processing using Office2007 under bootcamp. It seems a pity that the two programs from the same company should be so different.
 
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