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For the people complaining about DropBox being too expensive, it's important to remember that they don't have lucrative 'main businesses' to subsidise cloud storage as a sweetner for another product.
 
For the people complaining about DropBox being too expensive, it's important to remember that they don't have lucrative 'main businesses' to subsidise cloud storage as a sweetner for another product.

I'm sure a lot of people know this but don't care. It's about how things affect them.
 
Good for Microsoft, and probably consumers - depends on the fine print. And on whether you want to give the NSA such easy access to everything, though MS deserves credit for at least trying to make it a bit harder.
 
Good for Microsoft, and probably consumers - depends on the fine print. And on whether you want to give the NSA such easy access to everything, though MS deserves credit for at least trying to make it a bit harder.

If you're afraid of the NSA getting your files, keep them localized only. This isn't me saying it's right, but me saying that Microsoft isn't any different than Apple or Google or DropBox in that situation. :\
 
It's a nice gimmick but I'm still sticking with iCloud all the way. It just works. OneDrive has too many issues for me and their privacy and terms and conditions are insane.

Oh please
iCloud is limited.

It doesn't just work. Talk to developers

They hate iCloud

Get out of here with that talk. 5 Gbs.. Useless
 
Oh please
iCloud is limited.

It doesn't just work. Talk to developers

They hate iCloud

Get out of here with that talk. 5 Gbs.. Useless

If I haven't cared about what developers think before, why would I start caring now?
 
Oh please
iCloud is limited.

It doesn't just work. Talk to developers

They hate iCloud

Get out of here with that talk. 5 Gbs.. Useless

iCloud is perfect if you have certain needs, and you're all Apple. It will "just work" on iDevices. Seriously. There are bad things I can say about it, but it has just worked for me for the things I use it for.
 
Yeah, this is the one place where Apple are truly skinflints. 5G of storage isn't enough. Having a 16G option for mobile is stupid. I dunno what it is with them and storage. At first I thought that maybe they wanted to cloud focus the storage, which is why the devices had such small storage capacity, but M$ doing 1TB, and Flickr having done it too makes me wonder what the heck is Apple's issue. Give your customers the storage they need, dammit.
 
Anyone know

1. about one drive upload speeds and sync errors?

2. whether they have started allowing folder upload from the web access?

I have tried to use one drive back with it was skydrive and when it would not allow upload of folders from the web that made it a nonstarter.

I like dropbox for it's ubiquity but I have real issues with the cost per GB now that the others are looking like 1TB for 100/year is going to be the standard.

I like google drive for the price but upload speeds are horrible for large files. I uploaded a 1 GB video file and it took seemingly a full day to upload. I thought it was just me but a quick search in their own forums showed this was a prevalent issue.
Still get the message they don't allow folder uploads, doesn't really bother me though since it's built into Win 8.1
 
I definitely like this. 5TB of storage. I shouldn't run out anytime soon. Although, this is just another reason for my teenage daughter to collect more of "the most important stuff in my life that I could never live without".:rolleyes:
 
I keep a few things on dropbox, google drive, sky drive, usually just things I want to share with other people.

I really have no use for online storage because it takes up the same amount of space on my HDs as it does there.

I use BitTorrent Sync for my real work.

My three Macs, 2 PCs, all are set up to sync the document folders. I can sit down at any of them and all of the files are the same all the time. AND THATS NICE.
 
If you're afraid of the NSA getting your files, keep them localized only. This isn't me saying it's right, but me saying that Microsoft isn't any different than Apple or Google or DropBox in that situation. :\

As a member of the military, I'm not particularly worried about whether the NSA can read my files - I'm confident that my service speaks for itself should some government agency decide they really have to have them. Even if localized, the NSA and other agencies can get them if they really want them, and Apple's firewall and FileVault might slow them down for a second or two.

As a citizen, I find it abhorrent and counter to the oath I've taken that the NSA, or any other government agency, can access anything I write, produce, speak, etc., without a public search warrant based on demonstrable probable cause.

Microsoft may not be able to encrypt and protect private information from the NSA, et al. As someone who has been a harsh critic of Microsoft (for a variety of reasons) I have to recognize that it is at least trying to appear as if it is trying to protect private data, as well as to finally begin to react to market forces.
 
I hope Apple re-examines the landscape between now and the release of iOS 8 and adjusts their iCloud storage offerings accordingly.

5 GB for free has always been laughable and will only become more laughable as time goes on. They need to at least give you the amount of space of each of your iOS devices in iCloud storage for free. 32 GB iPhone and 64 GB iPad on your Apple account should get you 96 GB of iCloud storage for free. Then, they should offer additional storage in 100 GB increments for $10.00 per 100 GB per year. Easy pricing structure and they still make more money than Microsoft on cloud storage.

Apple can play the huge profit margin game when it comes to hardware and I'll gladly pay the "Apple Tax" because I believe they make the best hardware on the market. However, storage and bandwidth are not high-priced commodities any longer. If I can get 1 TB with Microsoft for $70 a year, I would hope Apple would try to complete with that in some way.

Technically, Apple gives you unlimited amount of storage for music and videos and books through iTunes Match for $25/year and that also includes ad free iTunes Radio. So the free 5Gig is just for Pages, Numbers, Keynote and iDevice backup. I agree that even here 5 Gig is a bit small. I have a Time Machine so I have all my backups there (although I would like to have an offsite backup as well). I usually do not keep too many documents on the cloud, just what I am actively working on. So I am actually okay with the 5Gig for now, but if they offered something that would integrate with Time Machine to extend my local backup to a cloud backup, I think that would be awesome. For those that do a lot of collaboration and those that prefer to have everything on the Cloud (and exposed to the NSA and Google), having more free storage from Apple would be good I guess.
 
If you want to back up your iDevice without plugging in you need iCloud. If you want to use the new features in iOS 8 you'll need iCloud.

And you'll have to pay for it. There is no reason for Apple to offer cheaper rates or more storage when they design their devices and OS so the user really has no other option.

Microsoft and Google could offer 100TB for $25/year and Apple wouldn't flinch.
 
As a member of the military, I'm not particularly worried about whether the NSA can read my files - I'm confident that my service speaks for itself should some government agency decide they really have to have them. Even if localized, the NSA and other agencies can get them if they really want them, and Apple's firewall and FileVault might slow them down for a second or two.

As a citizen, I find it abhorrent and counter to the oath I've taken that the NSA, or any other government agency, can access anything I write, produce, speak, etc., without a public search warrant based on demonstrable probable cause.

Microsoft may not be able to encrypt and protect private information from the NSA, et al. As someone who has been a harsh critic of Microsoft (for a variety of reasons) I have to recognize that it is at least trying to appear as if it is trying to protect private data, as well as to finally begin to react to market forces.

I was more pointing out that, sadly, we're in an era of "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about" style of thinking. I think a bunch of companies are fighting it, though, Apple and Microsoft both included.
 
That's what I think about both iCloud and OneDrive. I mean why can't I store/access files like Dropbox on iCloud? Seems kind of silly to not offer that.

iCloud's online storage in Yosemite seems to work more like Dropbox - hopefully when it goes live Apple will also announce an increase in free capacity
 
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For the people complaining about DropBox being too expensive, it's important to remember that they don't have lucrative 'main businesses' to subsidise cloud storage as a sweetner for another product.
That's true, but it's not the consumer's job, nor should it be, to concern themselves with the competitive challenges faced by a company.
 
Technically, Apple gives you unlimited amount of storage for music and videos and books through iTunes Match for $25/year and that also includes ad free iTunes Radio. So the free 5Gig is just for Pages, Numbers, Keynote and iDevice backup. I agree that even here 5 Gig is a bit small. I have a Time Machine so I have all my backups there (although I would like to have an offsite backup as well). I usually do not keep too many documents on the cloud, just what I am actively working on. So I am actually okay with the 5Gig for now, but if they offered something that would integrate with Time Machine to extend my local backup to a cloud backup, I think that would be awesome. For those that do a lot of collaboration and those that prefer to have everything on the Cloud (and exposed to the NSA and Google), having more free storage from Apple would be good I guess.

Actually, not quite clear how it's going to work yet (and it may change before public release) but the new Apple model could end up being more expensive, even if you use iTune Match (which I do). Seems all of your pictures will be cloud based pictures, rather than the free 1000 images that are out there now, and that they are going to count the space used to store them against your free 5GB.
 
Anyone know

1. about one drive upload speeds and sync errors?

2. whether they have started allowing folder upload from the web access?

I have tried to use one drive back with it was skydrive and when it would not allow upload of folders from the web that made it a nonstarter.

I like dropbox for it's ubiquity but I have real issues with the cost per GB now that the others are looking like 1TB for 100/year is going to be the standard.

I like google drive for the price but upload speeds are horrible for large files. I uploaded a 1 GB video file and it took seemingly a full day to upload. I thought it was just me but a quick search in their own forums showed this was a prevalent issue.

It's allot faster when you're using a good wi-fi.. plus it's FREE!
 
Just goes to show that Apple really are unreasonably tight with cloud storage space. We should be getting 1TB of space for £20/y not 200GB or whatever they're offering for that price. Even when it comes to RAM, Apple is always way, way over priced.

Heck, even Flickr offers every user 1TB of space! I imagine Apple have more server space than Yahoo! and Microsoft.
 
That's what I think about both iCloud and OneDrive. I mean why can't I store/access files like Dropbox on iCloud? Seems kind of silly to not offer that.


You'll get that functionality with the next OSX.

iCloud is looking quite expensive...
 
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