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Really? I've been using office for over a decade, I've never had it crash on me,

Startup time? Instability? Can't say I've had those problems, maybe you should invest in decent hardware

I have decent hardware, and it takes at least 3x as long to start up as iWork apps on the same decent hardware. And it crashes cross-platform, too.
 
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For the year is $ 99.99.

For that much money you could buy the iWork suite for both your iPad and Mac, and never pay again.

What you would pay for 2.5 years is equal to the cost of Final Cut Pro X.

Also, consider the fact that you'll need to be connected to Skydrive, which requires an internet connection.

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The app store shows In-App purchase of a 1-Year subscription for $99.99

You get what you pay for. Office dominates iWork in each and every application. Ever tried to use Numbers? Yeah, exactly.

Like it or not Office is king and will remain that way for some time.
 
You get what you pay for. Office dominates iWork in each and every application. Ever tried to use Numbers? Yeah, exactly.

Like it or not Office is king and will remain that way for some time.

Have you not used Keynote? It makes PowerPoint look like trash. Though Numbers really does need some work because I'm forced to use Excel sometimes since Numbers is missing some key features, and then I complain about Excel lacking less essential things that Numbers has... like decent stability and usable interface.
 
$99 per year for 5 computers is a far cry less than buying the software as a package on a every two or three year cycle as Office tends to be released for those same 5 computers. At $99 a year you always have the latest version. When you do the math, yes you are locked into a subscription model, but at the end of the day if you're a heavy Office user that upgrades on the release curve it's cheaper.

I'm sure that's true, but when you're one person who wants to make some documents and spreadsheets . . . well, it's a ridiculous amount of money.
 
Hindsight is wonderful though, isn't it?

I don't fault Ballmer for saying that ... after all, it was clearly intended to placate MS investor's fears, and nothing more. In other words, he was doing his job as CEO of Microsoft. And really, can you expect the CEO of a company to actually admit publicly that a competitor's product is better? Hardly. If he did that, then I would agree, he should be fired.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U

Get real! Bill Gates said he would buy a Mac for his mom... Should he have been fired?

Hindsite is wonderful. Foresight is valuable.

I would fault him, he laughed at the initial iPhone (along with RIM) while the smart ones got to work making competitive replicas.

He didn't need to say anything, but he needed to do something. Placate the investors by responding with a product. He thought "worthless" and in his own arrogant mind felt that a phone with a keyboard was the future. He was too busy trying to be RIM to realize that he was copying the wrong company. "Let's see how the market plays out". Well it played out, and he lost.

The man should be fired for lack of vision, not comments. Comments just give a glimpse into his stupidity. Fire him for the stupidity, not the glimpse into it.
 
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I have done several Office365 migrations for clients. As a user, I am not a huge fan of the subscription model (they are way too pricey...home users shouldn't have to pay more than $5/month to use Home Premium Office). But when it comes to actual infrastructure and support, it is so much nicer having MS host everything in the cloud. No more on-site backups, no more server management, no more Exchange management. Guess the only caveat is that MS is probably forking all of your data over to the NSA.
 
Also kind of funny how they look like the Windows 8 buttons. What does that tell you about iOS7 ;)

Great artists steal? The iOS 7 thing is kind of an iOpener, almost scary the double standards in play with Apple and how they can maintain their lawsuits with a straight face.

This is a very cool advance for iOS; now if Apple would just make a bigger screen iPhone, it would be useful as well as very cool :D.

And okay, can we now get at least iTunes Match for subscribers on Windows RT? I want to be able to play movies and books from iTunes ><.
 
Microsoft gave mass-market iPhone users 6 years to learn how to manage mobile documents without Office. Their solution today is limited to the iPhone's small screen, despite the rapid growth of iPad. On top of that, functionality depends on a $99 yearly subscription. Seems like a huge miss.

To be clear, I'm not knocking the software. I have to use Office at work and it is okay. I'm sure this will end up being nice. But I'm not sure that today's announcement made a compelling argument to a majority of iOS consumers.
 
This is a very cool advance for iOS; now if Apple would just make a bigger screen iPhone, it would be useful as well as very cool :D.
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They do, its called an iPad...

Increase the phone size by 30% makes little difference for spreadsheets, you need a tablet. If you like your Note, good for you. Most people don't.
 
Microsoft gave mass-market iPhone users 6 years to learn how to manage mobile documents without Office. Their solution today is limited to the iPhone's small screen, despite the rapid growth of iPad. On top of that, functionality depends on a $99 yearly subscription. Seems like a huge miss.

To be clear, I'm not knocking the software. I have to use Office at work and it is okay. I'm sure this will end up being nice. But I'm not sure that today's announcement made a compelling argument to a majority of iOS consumers.

I couldn't agree with this more. I've dealt with the official absence of Office on iDevices for a long time now. The fact that this is limited to my phone and has an exorbitant price (in comparison to iWork) makes me think I'll pass for now.
 
Yay..

Lets see how many will go with this ?

As i said before, why pay to edit something YOU created... Regardless of how little you pay. Its an "on-going" subscription you mist pay to continue it being usuable vs software you buy retail off the shelve you only pay ONCE and you can edit to your hearts content..

Plus, the amount you pay as a subscription will add up. After soo many years anyway, so really, in the short term, it may be cheaper month to month, but in the long run, your paying more just to edit your own documents everwhere, while being convenient.
 
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then I complain about Excel lacking less essential things that Numbers has... like decent stability and usable interface.

What a load of crap. Decent stability? I have never had Excel 2010 or 2013 crash on me and I routinely have spreadsheets with over 50,000 observations.

Usable interface? WTF. Excel is extremely powerful, odds are you only use 1% of its capabilities. Let's not turn Excel into pretty neon blobs and butterflies, okay?
 
I know, I was remarking how Apple was "inspired" by MS, not the other way around.

Inspired by MS??? You know nothing about design. Extract the design language from the Nokia Lumia line. Those words describe both the product design and its UI. Now look at the iPhone line since 2007. The design language will finally be consistent on both fronts- but the inspiration came not only from the iPhone line, but from an army of products and their designs since Jony arrived. Not MSFT.
 
I've converted to Pages and Numbers. Sorry MS$.

Same here. With iWork being integrated into iCloud I might even uninstall Microsoft Office 2010 off of my PC. I'm not doing it to be a snobby Mac user, etc. I just don't NEED it. That is really not something I could have said up until now.
 
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