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Microsoft is looking to build a "super app" that incorporates a messaging platform, shopping, web search, and news into a single app, an apparent attempt to go after Apple and Google's app store platforms.

Alright. Someone's going to have to explain how MS wanting to build a super app like WeChat, AliPay, Grab, etc. is an attempt at going after Apple and Google's app store platforms? Apple's app store is not a super app.
 
This is what Elon Musk had in mind when he bought Twitter. Apple is the same but they and Google also produce the devices to use this. So for Musk and Microsoft it is how to get around this?


Linux phone and AR glasses.
 
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I initially had the same thought as everyone else. Super Apps Suck.

But what I do miss is Sherlock. A real app, not a skin over a browser, that has a myriad of functions all requiring the internet but in the simplest form.
 
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If they wanted to play in mobile they shouldn’t have gotten rid of their phone. I guess that was before Nadella though. He could probably revive it.
Ummm. He did that little cloud computing thingie that made Microsoft a player again on the level of Apple. Always that. 🫤


We shall see but AR is the future.
 
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And they're shutting it down in 2025 because nobody on earth wants this.
Maybe nobody in the U.S. would want a (Microsoft-created) super app, but super apps are used in a lot of other countries: WeChat, AliPay, Grab, Careem, Paytm, Rappi,....

The U.S. isn't the world.
 
Bing is Microsoft's dead horse. They should stop riding it. Bing is crap and the whole world knows it.

Integrating Bing in Outlook or Teams will make these products even worse.
 
Ummm. He did that little cloud computing thingie that made Microsoft a player again on the level of Apple. Always that. 🫤


We shall see but AR is the future.
AR is the future if AR stands for Ad Revenue

 
I find Bing is like classic Google, how Google used to be 15 years ago.
Which is better.


They are mostly all the same now but Duckduckgo gives me slightly different results. EDIT - It will take you places the others are hesitant to go…


BTW Folks: GOOGLE is still the default search engine in Safari on Apple devices I believe and they pay Apple billions of dollars a year for that. You can change that if you want.
 
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Is this just for China? Is there anyone outside of China who does everything inside one app? I don’t want to go back to the days of AOL.
 
If this is a browser like Safari, Chrome, or Firefox where you can go to various websites, what's new? If it's more of an everything built-in kind of thing, sounds like a "Too many features spoil the broth" thing. Trying to do too many things at the same time, while not doing any of it particularly well.
 
Is this just for China? Is there anyone outside of China who does everything inside one app? I don’t want to go back to the days of AOL.
I agree but they all want you to stay in their platform ecosystem. I run 50 websites and you can get around the app stores by just putting the URL on the home screen. Twitter users could have done that if booted from Apple’s app store.



But the idea is to keep you from going somewhere else - always that.
 
Microsoft == user-friendly?

The software is the worst possible experience: difficult to learn, notoriously changing (moving things around to annoy users), advanaced functions either don't work or are unstable/unsupported,
From someone entrenched in a deep MS enterprise environment:

Bing = garbage. Truly hard to find what you want. I wish they would stop trying to make Bing happen.
Teams = confusing. Truly hard to navigate (makes me cry missing Slack)
Outlook = great on Windows....but that's it. New Outlook/Outlook Web/Outlook Mobile is lacking in features and lackluster all around.

In other words, an unusable money sink.
Outloook is only great, if you are hard-core Windows and do not mind having a menu bar, a toolbar ribbon (duplicating some of the menu-bar) with icons on the top of the window, and yet another menu at the bottom of the window. However thought this is intuitive, I would like to hit with a baseball-bat on the fingers for every user wasting time .... and the documentation/google is always incorrect, beause it's for another version, where things were organized differently. Even settings like out-of-office, I can't find - becasuse preferences are scattered in several places, reachable by different menus: commands are not visible, hidden beind the menu-icon on the bottom. FinalCutPro on the other hand, I can just use - because ALL commands are all visible in one place (menu bar), and are organized so I can easily find what I need.

Microsoft, really?
 
Microsoft == user-friendly?

The software is the worst possible experience: difficult to learn, notoriously changing (moving things around to annoy users), advanaced functions either don't work or are unstable/unsupported,

Outloook is only great, if you are hard-core Windows and do not mind having a menu bar, a toolbar ribbon (duplicating some of the menu-bar) with icons on the top of the window, and yet another menu at the bottom of the window. However thought this is intuitive, I would like to hit with a baseball-bat on the fingers for every user wasting time .... and the documentation/google is always incorrect, beause it's for another version, where things were organized differently. Even settings like out-of-office, I can't find - becasuse preferences are scattered in several places, reachable by different menus: commands are not visible, hidden beind the menu-icon on the bottom. FinalCutPro on the other hand, I can just use - because ALL commands are all visible in one place (menu bar), and are organized so I can easily find what I need.

Microsoft, really?
Love Outlook like many businesses, setting up Imap is easy peezie unlike Apple’s email. You had me going with you until you mentioned FinalCutPro. DaVinci Resolve from a former AVID guy…
 
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Does anyone really use Bing?
I always change my default search engine to Google whenever I’m setting up a new computer.
All devices and computers in my home use Bing as the default search engine. I haven't purposely "Googled" anything since 2010. I use "purposely" because, of course, Google has strong-armed its way into being buried into the search department of so many websites and apps that's it nearly impossible to avoid.
 
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Does anyone really use Bing?
I always change my default search engine to Google whenever I’m setting up a new computer.
I use Bing on some machines and DDG on some others. Try to reduce my dependance on Google and encourage competitors. It's not like Google results are particularly better than the others. Bing is better for images. If I don't find what I'm looking for on one search engine, I'll still switch to another.
 
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