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"...Microsoft's Bing at a disadvantage".

Bing was losing a billion a quarter in the early years. Add that to their Xbox and MSN losses and they were closing in on 20 billion in losses at one point.

Crikey, even Yugo could have made a decent car if they'd had that much money to throw at it.

Ballmer once said that Microsoft may not be the first or the best but they just keep coming and coming and coming. Read: we don't care how much money we lose to get market share.

As a reference to how much money that is, the international space station was up and running and receiving visitors at the 10 billion mark.
 
Microsoft doesn't want to be harvesting only PC user data going forward as people gradually migrate away from even having PC's in the years / decades to come - this is the problem they're looking to solve here I think.

Trying to create WeChat outside of China is what this sounds like and people would be insane to to use it (and give MS that data mining source). I think the time of when a WeChat like application could have worked in the U.S. or Europe was many years ago before big apps / services were established in the tech sector (and those potential users were silo'd and all slurped up) - not that former convicted monopolist Microsoft won't try such a thing.
 
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MegaApps suck. I’ve experienced a few experiments.
It - will -fail
Word and iTunes comes to mind. Good gawd, those two apps are horrible. They used to be great back when they were focused apps that did a few things and did it better than anyone else. Now they're bloated, resource hogs.

Top level executives are so far out of touch with reality that it's painful for the rest of us. No one wants bloat. MegaApps is bloat, bloat, bloat.😣😣😣 It's bad enough most OSes have become so bloated that it takes up half the storage on base model machines.😩 Install one MegaApp and you'll have 10MB of usuable space.😑
 
What if I told you you're late to the party dear Microsoft? Focus your effort on improving your crappy Windows 10 instead of building something nobody wants. We already have Messenger, Whatsapp, Viber, Signal, Threema, Telegram, and Discord. Nobody wants another chat app. For search, there's google.
 
I'm glad Apple went the other way around on macOS. iTunes used to be this "super app" for Music, App Store, and managing iOS devices for syncing, transferring, managing backups, etc. I know all these things grew into it since the iPod times, but it totally didn't make sense anymore in the end to use this bloated app. I'm glad they split it up into dedicated, separate macOS apps (and Finder).
It would have also been pretty easy to have modules that operated near independent save for a common front end UI. I would prefer to have media in one place and preferably not a giant sales pitch.
 
From someone entrenched in a deep MS enterprise environment:

Bing = garbage. Truly hard to find what you want. I wish they would stop trying to make Bing happen.
Teams = confusing. Truly hard to navigate (makes me cry missing Slack)
Outlook = great on Windows....but that's it. New Outlook/Outlook Web/Outlook Mobile is lacking in features and lackluster all around.

In other words, an unusable money sink.
Office Online is garbage compared to desktop. They changed at work because it was cheaper. You don't get email notifications, and you can't do stuff in Excel anymore. Used to be able to select multiple tabs in workbooks and quick duplicate. Now you can only go one at a time.
 
Does anyone really use Bing?
I always change my default search engine to Google whenever I’m setting up a new computer.
LOL. I purchased Parallels the other day and the first thing I did on Edge was to change the search engine to DuckDuckGo. And in Vivaldi I changed Yahoo (!?) to DuckDuckGo also.
 
Office Online is garbage compared to desktop. They changed at work because it was cheaper. You don't get email notifications, and you can't do stuff in Excel anymore. Used to be able to select multiple tabs in workbooks and quick duplicate. Now you can only go one at a time.
When I was younger I thought software was in a path of perpetual improvement until you would reached a good, competent, reliable app that solve a need you had.
But lately I see companies trying to reinvent the wheel all the time. Why would you make a new app if it doesn't do everything the previous one did?
 
They can make one, but I doubt lots of people will bother getting it.

There's a reason Google is paying so much money to be the default search engine, people don't bother changing it
Yeah. People who are not into tech (the majority) don't care. These is why defaults matter, and I only see these gaining any traction if they can get manufacturers to bundle the app somehow. But even then I have my doubts about it. It might be that culturally in most west countries people don't user superapps.
 
From someone entrenched in a deep MS enterprise environment:

Bing = garbage. Truly hard to find what you want. I wish they would stop trying to make Bing happen.
Teams = confusing. Truly hard to navigate (makes me cry missing Slack)
Outlook = great on Windows....but that's it. New Outlook/Outlook Web/Outlook Mobile is lacking in features and lackluster all around.

In other words, an unusable money sink.

I rarely use Google.com but I use DuckDuckGo (most of the time) and sometimes Bing for coding-related (stackoverflow, etc.)

Teams have gotten better over time but still need more improvement.

I agree with you - the app itself sucks and so is the web version but it's still better than the app.
 
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Microsoft Teams is the most bloated app on my Mac, not only in terms of CPU and RAM utilization, which are substantial, but it feels sluggish and very un-Apple like.

But whereas I am required to use Teams for work, I have no obligation to use this all-in-one app for my personal needs. While the final product remains to be seen, if it's anything like Teams, no thank you.
 
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Office Online is garbage compared to desktop. They changed at work because it was cheaper. You don't get email notifications, and you can't do stuff in Excel anymore. Used to be able to select multiple tabs in workbooks and quick duplicate. Now you can only go one at a time.

This is not to mention that Microsoft is forcing people to apps on all platforms that reflect the web versions in the name of "consistency" across Microsoft365. Never mind the dramatic elimination of any features not used by grandma who can't find the power button on her computer.

Microsoft Teams is the most bloated app on my Mac, not only in terms of CPU and RAM utilization, which are substantial, but it feels sluggish and very un-Apple like.

But whereas I am required to use Teams for work, I have no obligation to use this all-in-one app for my personal needs. While the final product remains to be seen, if it's anything like Teams, no thank you.

I can't imagine what Microsoft was thinking when they opened Teams up to consumers. I can't think of something I'd rather use less (and then have to beg people in my circle to use). No thank you!
 
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