Maybe bigger screen. 6 inch display with a really high Megapixel camera. That is my guess.
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Microsoft Ends Support for 'Windows Phone' After Years of Battling to Compete With iPhone and Android
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Maybe bigger screen. 6 inch display with a really high Megapixel camera. That is my guess.
I guess the W10M update bricking phones wasn't enough to convince the dozen or so holdouts to replace their device, so MS provides a shot across the bow of anyone holding a WP8 phone.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Explains-Why-Windows-10-Bricked-Some-Phones-478728.shtml
Good job scuttling Nokia, MS! Google did the same with Motorola.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Explains-Why-Windows-10-Bricked-Some-Phones-478728.shtml
Good job scuttling Nokia, MS! Google did the same with Motorola.
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Ok. Support ended for WP8.1 and not Windows 10, but that aside, the platform is virtually dead.
I think it's a shame. I've used one of the Windows phones for a while and the active tiles that displays (useful) information without the need for interaction is great. Also, it made the phone feel more "alive" in a sense.
Although I'm a dedicated iPhone fan, I would have loved to have this really different platform alive instead of the copy-cat Android which basically is an iPhone with some improvements / lack thereof.
Speaking of copy-cat, I put my iPhone next to my brother-in-law's Samsung Galaxy S-something and we briefly went through the basic stuff on both phones. The two platforms are SO much the same.
The WP would have been a nice competitor to have around. Competition is always good.
I think it's a shame. I've used one of the Windows phones for a while and the active tiles that displays (useful) information without the need for interaction is great. Also, it made the phone feel more "alive" in a sense.
Although I'm a dedicated iPhone fan, I would have loved to have this really different platform alive instead of the copy-cat Android which basically is an iPhone with some improvements / lack thereof.
Speaking of copy-cat, I put my iPhone next to my brother-in-law's Samsung Galaxy S-something and we briefly went through the basic stuff on both phones. The two platforms are SO much the same.
The WP would have been a nice competitor to have around. Competition is always good.
What it really lacked was a few really compelling features to make it much more desirable than the iPhone or Android phones. When you're the third guy to arrive at the costume party dressed up as Elvis, you have to do something really amazing to get as much attention as the first guy. They were even paying some developers substantial money to either port popular apps to Windows Phone, or develop something new exclusively for it (not a good sign). It wasn't getting the kind of traction with developers that iPhone (and Android) got, because developers didn't see a huge market there. It was a "me too" device. But Microsoft, with a enormous amount of hubris, just assumed that of course everyone would want a Windows Phone because they had PC's running Windows.
Zune was kind of the same way - it didn't have a bunch of really compelling breakthrough features that would make ordinary people want to switch, and Microsoft assumed that people would want to buy their "me too" product simply from name recognition. Microsoft is very familiar to people, but that doesn't mean that they're beloved. (And now it's so universally considered a failure that it's an easily understood punchline in Guardians of the Galaxy 2.)
(Related, I recall many instances of people, relatively early in the iPod's life, saying, "Oh, I'd love to get an iPod, but I can't, because I don't have a Mac" - years after the Windows version of iTunes gained support for iPods.)
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Who's laughing now?
I love this. Ignorance is bliss. Fast forward... Zune is no more, Windows phone is all but extinct. Their OS is the only thing (also Xbox) keeping them afloat for now. Granted MS doesn't have a hard time with things but they are a software company that is having trouble adapting to hardware. They just can't get it right.
Not really. BlackBerry proper only does EMM software now. The only device currently on sale, the KeyONE, was designed by them, but that was a pipeline product when they transitioned to software-only, and they won't be doing any more designs going forward. The rest are cosmetic changes to TCL reference models. By any meaningful estimation, the BlackBerry that competed with Apple and Google is dead.
Nah it just screams "information", rather than "icons". Live tiles are fantastic when they work, and Windows Phone 10 is a great product. No complaints at all in 5 years using WP since 8, and certainly preferable to anything after iOS 6.
Windows Phone just gets on with being a phone, without all the superfluous crap. I never used an app that wasn't a game in iOS, and can't envisage a situation where I would, so that has never been a problem, and storage isn't either, as every device has SD card support.
I -really- don't look forward to probably at this point inevitably having to return to iOS, but it would be the lesser of two evils if WP goes away altogether. Sad.
All Nokia/Microsoft Lumia phones that shipped with Windows Phone 8.x can be upgraded to Windows 10 Mobile (some officially, others unofficially - yes, even the cheapest ones from the range from 4 years ago) so this is non-news really, just an old version that has been superseded by a more up-to-date one.
All while Google themselves only promise OS version updates for their very expensive flagship Pixel phones for just two years from launch...
All while Google themselves only promise OS version updates for their very expensive flagship Pixel phones for just two years from launch...
I am sure i'll get banned from this site for admitting to it, but I owned many a Lumia, the 920 and 830 were my favorites. The 1020 was great phone too. I've moved on to 950 and didn't feel the same magic as W10M was a shell of the original. I still miss the days of 8.1 it was a great time. I have a iPhone 7 now but some days I do miss pulling my 920 out and hitting the camera button and snapping a pic of my kids on a bad ass camera.
This. Baller was the worst thing to ever happen to Microsoft. The worst. He's the sole reason Microsoft never got any real market share in mobile and why they lost the little share they did have and they will probably never get it back.Who's laughing now?
He didn't see where the industry moving and he didn't recognize the iPhone as the true threat that it was and by the time he got his head out of his rear, it was too little, too late.
By the time Microsoft got on the train, everyone in the world was already too invested in their own iOS or Android ecosystem of apps and other paid content to switch. Even developers and studios were too invested as they were unwilling spend resources developing for Windows mobile because the # of users was so low - the cost/benefit wasn't there.
If Ballmer had instead invested billions in R&D the same year the iPhone launched, I think the market would be very different today.
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Same here. I came from a Samsung Focus, Lumia 920, then finally a 1520. When Windows 10 and 10 Mobile gutted the last of the original UX elements, I finally threw in the towel. That being said, between iPhone and Android, iPhone is closest to what Windows Phone was before 10: a fast, easy to use OS, with at least some integration among its maker's products and services.
Every time I pick up that old Lumia 920, I can't help but feel like it the perfect size: slightly larger than the iPhone but not quite the size of the Plus. Along with the curved glass edges, it was the perfect hardware form factor. And the keyboard still beats iOS' keyboard by a mile for size on screen, shape writing, and accuracy.
The problem is Microsoft tends to do things “ half a##” so to speak. Unless it’s one of their main products they never really get into it. They dabble with a product a little and then abandon it because it never really goes anywhere. They need to find a product that either there isn’t any real good options out there and they think they can make a way better product or they need to come out with a whole new category of product that fills a niche that no one ever thought about. THEN they need to TOTALLY get behind that product and do all the advertising and so on to really show off the product and why it is so great. Trying to enter a product category that already has excellent choices is a recipe for disaster as well just doing it “half a##”. As far as their phone is concerned I feel like they made both of those mistakes.
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Government and military contracts. There are still inplace and make some money.
But the funny thing is most I see will whip this out AND the real phone they use. Android or Iphone.
I think blackberry's main selling point at this point is some companies like it because its the workphone with the least amount of hassle. Since many like above will get issued these...and then get a mobile option that doesn't suck when the bills come in its easier for all.
the owner hates their blackberry so you can bet the mortgage money they won't use unless work related. Hell, they may even direct business calls/text to their other mobile lol. Less billing hassle end of month/quarter/year.
And some accounting types aren't burning the midnight oil scrubbing the same bills going I really think Bob in Marketing is lying about this 2 hour phone call was work related and a personal call and commences a little investigation.
No such thing as Windows Phone 10. It's Windows 10 Mobile and it mostly applies to tablets. It's crap and rarely updated.They need to let it die.
That iPhone funeral was never a good idea.
http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-iphone-funeral-2010-9?IR=T
http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-iphone-funeral-2010-9?IR=T