Microsoft Follows Apple By Hiking Price of Surface Book Laptops in the U.K.

[Keane16]

Petrol prices have absolutely nothing to do with Brexit, no idea why you brought that up:

http://www.vox.com/2016/11/30/13792788/crude-oil-prices-opec-cuts

You ignore the whole picture:

- Yes you are right GLOBAL prices have gone up.
But...
- UK price will go up even more than that due to the fact that we import most of our oil.

This FT article may help you understand, it explains those in the economy who will benefit from a stronger £ and those that will suffer: https://www.ft.com/content/28787548-8c82-11e6-8cb7-e7ada1d123b1

And Tesco told Unilever they would not accept their price rises, in fact this is an interesting write up on it all, and remember the boss of Tesco was the boss of Unliever, he knows what he is talking about and slams anyone raising their prices using Brexit as an excuse:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-time-for-the-black-friday-rush-a7424781.html

Please read your own links. He accepts prices changes for currency fluctuations:

Actually, teasing aside, Mr Lewis has raised a worthwhile point. Multinationals like Unilever are able to manage their businesses to take account of movements in the currency markets.

And YES, the price of Unilever goods did go up. Tesco and Unilever "reached a deal", Tesco did not reject the price hikes completely - Unilever themselves talk about it:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/26/marmite-maker-unilever-price-rises-brexit-

So it's rather confusing how you claim shopping is more expensive now? Mine isn't, perhaps your going to the wrong places?

- Petrol is £7.50 more expensive per 50 litres (which is what I use a week = £30/month or £360/year)
- Unilever have put prices up - see earlier link to interview with Chief Exec.
- Shrinkflation the hidden weapon. So you end up having to buy things more regularly. Even if the cost at the till is the same. Toblerone were a high profile example. But many other brands (including supermarket own brands) have played the trick.
- Cost of holidays have increased again due to the week pound.

The list goes on.

Has the pound dropped, a bit yes, can corporations EASILY absorb that, of course they can, it goes up and down all the time, it's still price gouging using Brexit as an excuse. And considering all the reports claiming the UK economy is strong with a great outlook, even a Cook was praising the British would be perfectly fine (nothing to do with his 200 billion plus sat on Ireland's shores of course..)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/02/10/apple-boss-tim-cook-british-going-just-fine-brexit/

It's dropped "a bit" has it. Now I don't know if you're trolling. I guess people see what they want. I'll repost @MrX8503's graph as you misinterpreted the massive drop in June 2016.

You posted a bunch of reports earlier none of them mentioned strong economy with a great outlook. Just as you sold me a UK "boom" in your original post, you're clearly biased and that's affectoing your responses. The economy is generaly stable, and previous predictions have been revised upward. Nothing out there to suggest rainbows and ponies.

He's a fine CEO of a massive US company, but I'm not sure how much TC knows about UK economics so I won't be taking his word as gospel. Let's hope he's right though.

So you can carry on going on about Brexit if you want, and refuse to accept its price gouging, because it's not like the British consumer ever gets ripped off right? Rip Off Britain doesn't exist right?

Brexit caused uncertainty in the UK economy, the £ fell in value against other major currencies. This has caused price increases. See earlier Independent link you posted about the head of Tesco who accepts this is going to happen.

Rip off Britain was a phrase created by the English tabloids. I pay a fraction for my mobile phone compared to US prices. I pay half the price for electricity compared to Australians. I pay less for PPV UFC than most of the planet. If you have examples we can discuss. Using a blanket term is silly.

And as for the doom and gloom, NO IT HAS NOT HAPPENED!!,

- Yipeeee, my holiday will be more expensive this year.
- Woohoo! The Sonos I was looking at has gone up 25%.
- Thanks weak £, now my petrol costs even more than it would've due to OPEC. YES!
- Get in shrinkflation. Love getting less for my money.
- Woop my Adobe Creative Cloud fees are UP!
- Savings rates are abysmal. Praise the Lord.
-Bank account benefits are been cut (Halifax Reward Account, Santander 1-2-3 etc.). I am one lucky man.

You are right, life is peachy right now. What was I thinking. Pass the champagne.

do you want me to post all those articles and interviews of all those threats from all those experts, politicians and the Bank Of England about how we would totally collapse and have a Third World War if we voted to leave? In fact the Third World War, Mark Carney claiming utter doom and gloom which was the COMPLETE OPPOSITE to what he now claims, and the emergency hard budget, were my favorite doom mongering things.

What have peoples incorrect predictions got to do with anything. I haven't brought them up. I never claimed they were true.

My problem is my current reality is bad compared to this time last year. I have less disposable income thanks to the effects of the referendum. As mentioned I hope it changes, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Kebabselector]

On the plus side UK manufacturers that export to the US are happy, pity there's only about 2 of them left.

 

[apolloa]

You ignore the whole picture:

- Yes you are right GLOBAL prices have gone up.
But...
- UK price will go up even more than that due to the fact that we import most of our oil.

This FT article may help you understand, it explains those in the economy who will benefit from a stronger £ and those that will suffer: https://www.ft.com/content/28787548-8c82-11e6-8cb7-e7ada1d123b1



Please read your own links. He accepts prices changes for currency fluctuations:

Actually, teasing aside, Mr Lewis has raised a worthwhile point. Multinationals like Unilever are able to manage their businesses to take account of movements in the currency markets.

And YES, the price of Unilever goods did go up. Tesco and Unilever "reached a deal", Tesco did not reject the price hikes completely - Unilever themselves talk about it:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/26/marmite-maker-unilever-price-rises-brexit-



- Petrol is £7.50 more expensive per 50 litres (which is what I use a week = £30/month or £360/year)
- Unilever have put prices up - see earlier link to interview with Chief Exec.
- Shrinkflation the hidden weapon. So you end up having to buy things more regularly. Even if the cost at the till is the same. Toblerone were a high profile example. But many other brands (including supermarket own brands) have played the trick.
- Cost of holidays have increased again due to the week pound.

The list goes on.



It's dropped "a bit" has it. Now I don't know if you're trolling. I guess people see what they want. I'll repost @MrX8503's graph as you misinterpreted the massive drop in June 2016.

You posted a bunch of reports earlier none of them mentioned strong economy with a great outlook. Just as you sold me a UK "boom" in your original post, you're clearly biased and that's affectoing your responses. The economy is generaly stable, and previous predictions have been revised upward. Nothing out there to suggest rainbows and ponies.

He's a fine CEO of a massive US company, but I'm not sure how much TC knows about UK economics so I won't be taking his word as gospel. Let's hope he's right though.



Brexit caused uncertainty in the UK economy, the £ fell in value against other major currencies. This has caused price increases. See earlier Independent link you posted about the head of Tesco who accepts this is going to happen.

Rip off Britain was a phrase created by the English tabloids. I pay a fraction for my mobile phone compared to US prices. I pay half the price for electricity compared to Australians. I pay less for PPV UFC than most of the planet. If you have examples we can discuss. Using a blanket term is silly.



- Yipeeee, my holiday will be more expensive this year.
- Woohoo! The Sonos I was looking at has gone up 25%.
- Thanks weak £, now my petrol costs even more than it would've due to OPEC. YES!
- Get in shrinkflation. Love getting less for my money.
- Woop my Adobe Creative Cloud fees are UP!
- Savings rates are abysmal. Praise the Lord.
-Bank account benefits are been cut (Halifax Reward Account, Santander 1-2-3 etc.). I am one lucky man.

You are right, life is peachy right now. What was I thinking. Pass the champagne.



What have peoples incorrect predictions got to do with anything. I haven't brought them up. I never claimed they were true.

My problem is my current reality is bad compared to this time last year. I have less disposable income thanks to the effects of the referendum. As mentioned I hope it changes, but I'm not holding my breath.

I think you chose to ignore the posts where they predict great things for the UK, I guess you ignore Tim Cook also then?

And again why the hell are you going on about petrol prices? You rather 'conveniently' totally ignored my link to prove that claim utterly and totally wrong, which it is, fact!

But hey, your obviously one of those people that only choose to see the doom and gloom even when it's not there and probably expect world war 3 to start anytime soon purely because of Brexit.

Heres yet another report from a bank that is good for the pound, Morgan and Stanley are advising to buy the pound as it is currently 'undervalued' because of Brexit and offers a solid 'buying opportunity'.

http://www.businessinsider.my/morgan-stanley-the-pound-is-undervalued-2017-2/#BMx51VLeAMrXsrtP.97

No doom and gloom in yet another report....

 

[Keane16]

I think you chose to ignore the posts where they predict great things for the UK, I guess you ignore Tim Cook also then?

People can say what they want in their reports. If you want to believe them, fine. But be warned that each "side" has an agenda and depending on who the source of the report is there will often be bias. I have chosen to ignore both the doom and gloom and I have chosen to ignore the "boom" you are selling me. I am happy to take stock of reality. And the reality is my bank account is worse off thanks to the referendum - this may change in the future. I hope it does.

I already mentioned my views on Tim Cook, you may have missed it:

He's a fine CEO of a massive US company, but I'm not sure how much TC knows about UK economics so I won't be taking his word as gospel. Let's hope he's right though.

And again why the hell are you going on about petrol prices? You rather 'conveniently' totally ignored my link to prove that claim utterly and totally wrong, which it is, fact!

You clearly aren't even reading anything anymore. As I said, your bias is impeading your ability to be rational. But to help you here is what I said:

- Yes you are right GLOBAL prices have gone up.
But...
- UK price will go up even more than that due to the fact that we import most of our oil.

This FT article may help you understand, it explains those in the economy who will benefit from a stronger £ and those that will suffer: https://www.ft.com/content/28787548-8c82-11e6-8cb7-e7ada1d123b1

What I am saying is yes prices have gone up globally, but due to the weak £ prices will be forced even higher for the UK.

But hey, your obviously one of those people that only choose to see the doom and gloom even when it's not there and probably expect world war 3 to start anytime soon purely because of Brexit.

Again I don't care about reading about doom and gloom, I don't care about reading about your "boom". I want facts and smart conclusions, not assumptions from some biased source.

My facts as you missed them:

- Petrol is £7.50 more expensive per 50 litres (which is what I use a week = £30/month or £360/year)
- Unilever have put prices up - see earlier link to interview with Chief Exec.
- Shrinkflation the hidden weapon. So you end up having to buy things more regularly. Even if the cost at the till is the same. Toblerone were a high profile example. But many other brands (including supermarket own brands) have played the trick.
- Cost of holidays have increased again due to the week pound.

Heres yet another report from a bank that is good for the pound, Morgan and Stanley are advising to buy the pound as it is currently 'undervalued' because of Brexit and offers a solid 'buying opportunity'.

http://www.businessinsider.my/morgan-stanley-the-pound-is-undervalued-2017-2/#BMx51VLeAMrXsrtP.97

No doom and gloom in yet another report....

And you keep proving my point. From your link:

"Opinions on the pound’s relationship with the euro differ, with UBS telling Business Insider in January that it sees pound-euro parity as a realistic possibility in the medium term.
Read more at http://www.businessinsider.my/morgan-stanley-the-pound-is-undervalued-2017-2/#FJewTDMzTyPotAtr.99".

So from your post Morgan Stanley say it is undervalued. UBS say Euro/Sterling parity can be expected. Are you understanding this yet. People have their "side". They will make noise that suits their narrative.

 

[Mobgr]

Apple & others have hiked prices up by 20% in advance of brexit. will potential customers simply wait & not buy? Nothing hits a business with lowering turnover plus sales. The gut reaction is corperate greed, so don,t buy & pricing structures will have to be revieweed.

 

[theluggage]

Apple & others have hiked prices up by 20% in advance of brexit. will potential customers simply wait & not buy?

Apple's problem is that the UK price hike (which was inevitable given the currency shift) coincided with the launch of the new MacBook Pros which also included a significant price hike (even in the US).

So the UK has been hit with a double whammy of price rises. That's not good for the new machines.