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Microsoft Hires Linguist to Oppose Apple's 'App Store' Trademark
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Yay! Somebody who understands the question!
It's so funny watching people write "well windows/office/word is generic" (although nobody does that with Apple/pages/numbers/keynote). Clueless!
If that's not true, then where were you hearing the term "app store" used before apple trademarked it? No question there are multiple stores selling apps now, but if it was a generic term then there should be examples of use before the trademark filing. Example?
My point is that any post referencing "app" and its usage is pointless to this topic, because that is not the term in question with this legal battle. If M$ and their linguist work on "app", they should lose.
Frankly, I don't care who wins this battle. I guess I lean towards Apple, but that's mostly just bias against M$, to a lesser extent the fact that Apple was the first to use this particular term, AFAIK.
I always call them all "store", honestly. My mom has a Storm, dad has a Droid, several close people including me have iDevices, friend has some ancient Sprint device (Win, maybe). So I say, "go to the/your store [meaning appstore in the phone] and look for xxx."
The term "app" may be generic, but there was no "app" until Apple came into the picture. Apple got there first and everyone (as usual) followed.
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Windows are generic. More so than app store. Just took at your browser and see where it says open a new window. This is not specific to only windows OS.
I am old enough to remember the complaints of Microsoft calling there OS windows when they were not the first to create the concept.
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Windows are generic. More so than app store. Just took at your browser and see where it says open a new window. This is not specific to only windows OS.
I am old enough to remember the complaints of Microsoft calling there OS windows when they were not the first to create the concept.
I still have a netscape T-shirt from the mid-to-late 90s with a Mozilla and "Internet's Killer App" on the back .. and Web App .. everyone uses that term (not just java) to describe some sort of pluggable thing into <insert web service> framework .. you could say that Jobs pioneered some of this back at NeXT with Objective C Web Objects .. but that might be a stretch if you ask Booch or the OMG
Sorry but you've gotta be the dumbest person around here. 'Bill' has no involvement in Microsofts activities and hasn't done for a LONG time.
Microsoft have a very valid argument. Just because they are MICROSOFT it doesn't mean they are always wrong. (I know, it's shocking isn't it!)
Yeah, blame it on the lawyers.
Lawyers solve problems. Here, we have a dispute amongst the 2 businesses. The lawyers are just arguing the positions of their respective clients. Not sure why the lawyers deserve much, if any, of the blame.
People act like every lawyer is a ambulance chasing scumbag. Well, that is until they're wronged in some way and call their lawyer to help.
ideas?
App market?
Program Store?
Program Market?
App Hub?
App Universe?
App Base?
Tool Shed?
Imagination?
Hello?
App market?
Program Store?
Program Market?
App Hub?
App Universe?
App Base?
Tool Shed?
Imagination?
Hello?
Seriously...
Exactly what needs to happen ^^^^
Down with Windows and it's viruses, crashing, terrible OS's and general disposable nature.
Exactly what needs to happen ^^^^
Down with Windows and it's viruses, crashing, terrible OS's and general disposable nature.
Correct. I was simply providing additional evidence that "app" was used before the App Store. Something the poster I was replying to was saying and something a lot of other posters are claiming is not true.
What is the App Store? It is a store where you buy apps, an app store.
It's not a "shed where you buy apps", for example.
If Apple wins this argument, obviously that would prevent MS from calling theirs the "App Store" - but can they still use the phrase descriptively? I.e. "Welcome to App Market, Microsoft's app store."
If they can't (and Microsoft, Google, Blackberry etc. all trademark the others, App Shop, App Market etc.), then how do you describe what the App Store/App Shop is? I can't think of a more generic variant which could be used to describe it. "Windows" is an OS. "Internet Explorer" is a browser. "Office" is an application suite. "App Store" is...errr... an app store.
If they can't (and Microsoft, Google, Blackberry etc. all trademark the others, App Shop, App Market etc.), then how do you describe what the App Store/App Shop is? I can't think of a more generic variant which could be used to describe it. "Windows" is an OS. "Internet Explorer" is a browser. "Office" is an application suite. "App Store" is...errr... an app store.
yes but..
back here in the UK Hoover were able to trade mark Hoover as their name despite the fact that hoover is the generic term for a vacuum cleaner!
back here in the UK Hoover were able to trade mark Hoover as their name despite the fact that hoover is the generic term for a vacuum cleaner!
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Apple is upset at Amazon for using AppStore.
Microsoft is upset at Apple for using App Store.
Interesting.
Apple is upset at Amazon for using AppStore.
Microsoft is upset at Apple for using App Store.
Interesting.
Well, whether it is generic is a matter of opinion, that's what's being debated in this case. I argue that if it truly is such a generic term, there should be prior art demonstrating use of it before Apple came along.
I don't understand why the other companies have to use that term - why not just have the Android Store and the Windows Store? Seems like that would be less confusing anyway.
Well, we ask for a "Kleenex", not a tissue.
We drink a "Coke", not a soda.
We use a "Band-Aid", not an adhesive bandage.
We like to "Roller Blade", not inline skate.
Although we don't "Hoover" here in the United States, I think "Hoover" falls into the "Coke, Kleenex, Band-aid, etc." catagory in England.
Thought it was clear so I'll try again.
Notice the iTunes.exe in the middle? It being the actual program but is denoted as Application.
I don't get Microsoft's angle here.
Apple build up and popularized the term App Store and put equity into it.
Microsoft's only goal has to be able to trade on that equity themselves with their own ecosystem, instead of building their own.
Anyways the whole thing is hilarious and very immature.
Who would of thought that you required scientists to write a dictionary.
Apple build up and popularized the term App Store and put equity into it.
Microsoft's only goal has to be able to trade on that equity themselves with their own ecosystem, instead of building their own.
Anyways the whole thing is hilarious and very immature.
Who would of thought that you required scientists to write a dictionary.