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So if you have a widescreen 16:9 monitor that's 27 inches (diagonal), do you think it's larger than a standard 3:4 that's 27 inches diagonal? If so, you need to go back to 5th grade geometry class.

If would help if you get your comparison right. (what grade is that taught in?)

If there was a 16:9 monitor that was 28" diagonally and a 3:4 that was 27" diagonally, you can make the case that 28" is larger than 27" ;)
 
If would help if you get your comparison right. (what grade is that taught in?)

If there was a 16:9 monitor that was 28" diagonally and a 3:4 that was 27" diagonally, you can make the case that 28" is larger than 27" ;)

Right, because when proven wrong, your only option is to attack my typo. Thanks!
 
Yeah, if we were to both walk on our walls.

So if I have a two story shack with 1 room per floor, you're saying it's bigger in size than your one story mansion of 20 bedrooms, 20 bathrooms, 5 kitchens, 1 indoor gym, 1 indoor movie theatre, 5 living rooms, 5 family rooms, etc.? Really?!? Okay, I'll trade my "bigger" house for yours anytime. But the fact is we don't walk on walls much like screens have MORE than a single dimension. If screens had only 1 dimension, then I'd be in complete agreement with you.

I would not calling it lieing but a stupid mistake. Chances are the person who did it was in autopilot mode and forgot that the iPad has an a difference screen ratio than everyone else.

So you crunch the numbers if they had the same ratio of 16:9 and it would be right.

it was a completely honest but stupid mistake.

We don't know the intentions. That is a possibility for sure.
 
It doesn't take much to get the fans frothing at the mouth over this.

Seriously? Front Page?
 
10.1" is bigger than 9.7" there for saying it's bigger is in fact, not wrong.

They didn't say 10.1" is bigger than 9.7", they said the screen is bigger. As the screen is not bigger, they were wrong.

As I said before, I believe it was an honest mistake directly attributable to the diagonal measurement. It's still wrong though.
 
We don't know the intentions. That is a possibility for sure.

Or chances are the guy making the ad was a recent college grad making $35k a year as an entry level marking intern at MSFT and just didn't give a rat's behind about fact checking because he knew regardless of what the ad said, it wasn't going to his $150,000 in student loans disappear or get him a girlfriend, lol
 
You mean in a lawsuit where they were highlighting the design with the size being irrelevant?

Irrelevant my ass, it was deliberately manipulated (even skewed to give it a different aspect ratio) to give the overall impression that the Tab was more similar to the iPad than it actually is. You can't seriously believe this didn't affect the people who reviewed the case.

Anyway, if you can claim size was irrelevant in that case:
The focus of the ad is comparing the functionality of the devices, not the size nor appearance.
 
From the genuises of the Xbox One..... not the 2001 one, one, but the other POS with a tablet CPU and GPU that even makes Apple's stuff look up to date.


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10.1" is bigger than 9.7" there for saying it's bigger is in fact, not wrong.

To say the screen has a bigger (longer) diagonal is not wrong. To say that the screen is bigger is wrong.
 
All that really matters is that the Windows device is an infinitely better device than the outdated iPad. Time to update that dinosaur of an OS, Apple. Sucks to see Apple's image turn so quickly from hip to old and slow, but they appear to be content with it.

Saying something is "infinitely better" just screams fanboy. It's all subjective. I agree iOS is stale, but it doesn't make Windows "infinitely better" :eek:
 
Irrelevant my ass, it was deliberately manipulated (even skewed to give it a different aspect ratio) to give the overall impression that the Tab was more similar to the iPad than it actually is. You can't seriously believe this didn't affect the people who reviewed the case.

Apple's design patents had nothing to do with size or aspect ratio. It could have been an 5 inch version or a 2 inch version. Size was irrelevant. The point of the document was to illustrate the similarities of the patented design elements.
 
Lol what a fail. How desperate do they have to be to resort to outright lying?

That's really pathetic and misleading.

Why not lie about size ... they've lied about everything else!

In an ongoing race toward miniaturization, one wonders how being pitched as "larger" is perceived as a benefit.

I carry a MacBook Air when I travel because it's small. I have a compact camera. I'm going to buy an iPad mini. I think the only thing I own which has seen a marked increase in size is my iPhone 5, which is larger than the iPhone 4.

When your only benefit statements focus on size (and a clearly dubious assertion, that!) and cost, your product probably doesn't have much else going for it.

Not much different than when Apple provided courts "evidence" against Samsung regarding phone sizes and conveniently sized their phones to match. :eek:

Not too many people had a problem with Apple doing that. And that was for evidence for a lawsuit.
 
Right, because when proven wrong, your only option is to attack my typo. Thanks!

I attacked you in the same way you attacked me. You either need to grow thicker skin or refrain from attacking others if you're going to cry when the favor is returned.

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They didn't say 10.1" is bigger than 9.7", they said the screen is bigger. As the screen is not bigger, they were wrong.

As I said before, I believe it was an honest mistake directly attributable to the diagonal measurement. It's still wrong though.

And 10.1 and 9.7 are measuring what? ;)
 
do people really care this much to spend that bit of time defending such a petty thing?

I don't think people are defending it. On the contrary, I think pretty much everyone is attacking Microsoft's lies.

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So you crunch the numbers if they had the same ratio of 16:9 and it would be right.

Yeah, and if the Microsoft screen really was was bigger, then it "would be right" as well.:rolleyes:
 
If a retail store employee misrepresents the product facts... I can forgive it any day... because after all they are not highly paid and probably not well trained either...

But if a company produces and releases a public advertisement program that deceits customers... regardless how small the false details are ... that's unethical business. I expect much more well behaved culture from a large corporation like Microsoft.
 
Not much different than when Apple provided courts "evidence" against Samsung regarding phone sizes and conveniently sized their phones to match. :eek:

Not too many people had a problem with Apple doing that.

Yeah. Very different than that.

And that was for evidence for a lawsuit.

And how was Apple admonished by the court? They weren't. Because the size was irrelevant.
 
What? No, not at all. You can use just about any printer.

Much as you can with iPad. There are lots of apps that allow printing to printers, some written by the company making those printers. I have an app that was free which worked perfectly with the 5 different printers I've ever owned (old HP wireless, Epson wireless, Brother wireless, Lexmark network enabled and a Dell wireless). Sure you can say some (not all) Windows tablets have USB ports so you can plug in some dinosaur of a printer but printers are extremely cheap these days and a good number were given away as part of a computer deal. Most printers in use today are probably wireless and accept generic printer drivers like CUPS. So the only area where Windows tablets can claim legitimate advantages is if the user only has a non-wireless/non-networked, really outdated and ancient printer that only works with Windows (even then it may not work with 7/8) drivers. And that is like saying I should buy this car exclusively and strictly because it comes in this particular shade of blue and that this one single knob on the dash unit only comes in black but I want it grey or something.
 
Saw the commercial and something stood out to me. They say the ipad needs a special printer to print. Only printer it needs is a wireless printer which the Windows tablet would also need too.

Nonsense. It has USB. It has Windows. Printers will work.
 
It doesn't take much to get the fans frothing at the mouth over this.

Seriously? Front Page?

If Apple did it, CNBC would be interrupting their normal programming to cover it. The New York Times would have a 12 part series planned. ;)
 
I attacked you in the same way you attacked me. You either need to grow thicker skin or refrain from attacking others if you're going to cry when the favor is returned.

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And 10.1 and 9.7 are measuring what? ;)

Clearly based on your comments you don't know basic geometry. Not going to discuss further, you keep saying the same thing, and it's still wrong. Go draw a square with a 12" diagonal, and a rectangle with a 12" diagonal and see how many M&Ms you can fit in both, maybe that'll finally get the concept through your head.
 
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