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Microsoft Internally Worked on a Mac OS X Aqua Inspired Windows XP Theme
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Apple, without inventing too much, did bring some things to the masses and they executed it rather well. Things that the existing industry didn't bother to commit to. Xerox was always business oriented and like IBM didn't believe home/personal computers would ever be a thing. The countless small/medium companies that brought those terrible cheap portable MP3 players before Apple, never really invested on the idea; they mainly copied each other, hoping that 64MB of slow flash memory, flimsy controls, cheap plastics, nonexistent UI, and terrible (USB) speeds would be enough. They invested in quantity while Apple invested in quality.
In contrast, Microsoft mainly brought bugs and low ethics. They were a huge reason home computing stagnated for decades.
In contrast, Microsoft mainly brought bugs and low ethics. They were a huge reason home computing stagnated for decades.
Yes, as well documented. Some inside PARC were adamantly against the Apple demo, but those who had been around the block a few times were 100% in favor. They knew the tech would just die inside PARC. At least with Apple, there was a chance all their brilliant work wouldn’t go to waste.
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Apple didn't produce the first laptop, but they did produce the first laptop to have palm-rests with the trackball in the center so you could control the pointer with either hand. Something which has been fundamental to almost every laptop that followed the Powerbook 100.
You completely missesd the point, I was responding to another member who said this:
Can nobody do anything without Apple doing it first?
So I was pointing out that most of apple's successes were not for being the first out the door. Others have stated similar, the tablet, the mouse, the computer the gui, mp3, smartphones. These all existed yet the other member was foolishly saying apple does things first
People call Apple fans "iSheeps" because of several things:
1. To mask their own insecurities about their platform choice.
2. Inability to understand that different people have different needs and wants from technology products.
3. Inability to grasp context and subtlety and take statements far too literally.
In this case, we're talking about number 3.
And the statement that they are known for embarking late implies an expectation that they intended to arrive sooner. I'm not sure I buy that. In some cases, sure, but not "known for." What they are known for is taking a promising technology, improving it, and making it usable. That doesn't make them "late."
Newer tech better than older tech. IMPOSSIBRU!Apple does many things first (like removing the headphone jack, bigger trackpads on laptops, "retina" displays), but they also do other things later (widgets on iOS, facial scanner) and when they do something later, it tends to be better than what came first.
Some aspects existed but a lot of what we know as the GUI were done by Apple first.
Well... Joke's on Apple... XP could be themed out of the box. MacOS needed additional software...
And actually Microsoft did an excellent job with the Royale Theme for that time. No need to copy MacOS...
Apart from that, rainmeter themes still demonstrate how wasted and boring the desktop actually is to this day. As such I don't think MS or Apple did an outstanding job on the overall desktop visuals. Desktop widgets never really took of for good reason...
And actually Microsoft did an excellent job with the Royale Theme for that time. No need to copy MacOS...
Apart from that, rainmeter themes still demonstrate how wasted and boring the desktop actually is to this day. As such I don't think MS or Apple did an outstanding job on the overall desktop visuals. Desktop widgets never really took of for good reason...
And McDonalds significantly outnumbers Five Guys, Whattaburger, and In And Out combined.
I'm not arguing that. Please go back and read my original post where I was quoting another member who was saying Apple was always first
“the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.” That’s Apple’s value proposition.
Apple perfects/refines the user experience of any tech They decide to ship + patent the hell out of it. Multi touch, Folded OLED, taptic engine, System In Package designs and manufacturing Process Then find someone who can make it as specced. They will WAIT until a tech they need is good enough to purchase, integrate. They are rarely first to market.
With their track record on successful products, existing manufacturers then copy their design choices. I’m sure some designer would go: why didn’t we think of that?
Besides, isn’t Windows a copy of Mac ever since?
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The kind of thing you’d find on today’s App Store, where OS X would be several screens down your search results.
Oh wow, it hasn't really evolved much has it.
I am being deadly serious, have to deal with Windows on a daily bases for my job, there's not a single day without frustration using Windows, just a month ago I got a work related Surface, the thing sucks hardware wise and software is a complete disaster.
That thing (Surface) costs a lot, even more than an iPad pro, why they choose this crap is *beyond my understanding.
*Actually, I do understand, because those decisions are made by fools (Staff) and clowns (IT specialists cough..cough).
I am being deadly serious, have to deal with Windows on a daily bases for my job, there's not a single day without frustration using Windows, just a month ago I got a work related Surface, the thing sucks hardware wise and software is a complete disaster.
That thing (Surface) costs a lot, even more than an iPad pro, why they choose this crap is *beyond my understanding.
*Actually, I do understand, because those decisions are made by fools (Staff) and clowns (IT specialists cough..cough).
Stole? You mean paid/licensed and hired many of the engineers because Xerox didn’t know what to do with it. Stole is the bs meme pushed by the competition that were “command line or death” and didn’t understand till Apple built it. Never mind that until it was developed by Jobs and Co, no one could run it on affordable devices.
In N Out makes a huge amount of money for the people that own it. It's getting bigger but slowly and carefully. Plus their food actually tastes like food, not chemically made crap. Whatta is ok, Five guys here is not so ok. I thought we were over Ms vs Apple thing. Both won.And McDonalds significantly outnumbers Five Guys, Whattaburger, and In And Out combined.
I know seriously, it's not like Apple visited Xerox and copied the idea of the mouse, gui and what not. They would never do that
And then inventing the MP3 player
Apple paid for the rights to checkout Xerox though. Microsoft didn't pay anything.
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extremely low-effort. describes microsoft pretty well.
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The reason nobody is saying anything is because 1) This article is about Microsoft. 2) You're wrong. Xerox actually gave Jobs the UI. He talked them into it (because he's always been persuasive) since they were not going to use it for anything other than testing.
Yeah they do that quite often. But you don't see Mac users trying to design their desktops to look like Windows.
Jeez, people are quite against Microsoft experimenting this theme. Does that mean Microsoft is always doing the bad thing and Apple is always doing the right thing? Sounds pretty iSheep to me.