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Microsoft Introduces Thinner Surface Pro 3 with 12" Display Starting at $799
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I don't make any products, so I couldn't care less if they sell or not. I buy what I need, not what some exec tells me that I want.
Yes, have a youtube of the surface 2 running OSX, touch works as well
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It'd be interesting if MS have installed an OSX compatible wifi card this time......
I'm an Apple user since 2003. I still have my old Power Mac and the venerable PowerBook 12". They're retired now; stored in my garage!
Right now, I'm using a 2012 Mac Pro and a MacBook Air; I have a Mac mini on the living room and my daughter as an iMac. iPhone user also; since 2007. For me, the iPad an the Apple TV, are the the most useless piece of crap Apple as ever released. Only recently I've bought an iPad mini, for media consumption only!
I'm tired of reading posts of Apple fan wannabe people, just because they've bought an Air, iPhone; whatever. Apple is Magical and they need to trash everything non Apple related.
From my experience; Apple quality on hardware is getting worse everyday, since they moved production into China, QC is non existent. OS X is a mess getting bigger in bugs, in every release. Lion was a crap and Mavericks is plagued wit bugs. Windows 7 is good and Windows 8/8.1 is a good, solid OS. On every Mac I own, I've two partitions; Mountain Lion and Windows 7/Windows 8.1. They're both good tools to work and play. I enjoy both systems.
The Surface is getting better in every release. It's not an iPad competitor; face it; iPad don't have a real OS. The Surface as a work / play - notebook / tablet, is a good machine and right now, it as no competition.
If you don't like it, don't buy it! I have no brand allegiance; my next purchase will be this new Surface 3. A real innovation on a stagnated market.
I could write more about the "new" obsolete trash can CPUs/GPUs, iOS 7, .... I leave it to you're imagination.
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Right now, I'm using a 2012 Mac Pro and a MacBook Air; I have a Mac mini on the living room and my daughter as an iMac. iPhone user also; since 2007. For me, the iPad an the Apple TV, are the the most useless piece of crap Apple as ever released. Only recently I've bought an iPad mini, for media consumption only!
I'm tired of reading posts of Apple fan wannabe people, just because they've bought an Air, iPhone; whatever. Apple is Magical and they need to trash everything non Apple related.
From my experience; Apple quality on hardware is getting worse everyday, since they moved production into China, QC is non existent. OS X is a mess getting bigger in bugs, in every release. Lion was a crap and Mavericks is plagued wit bugs. Windows 7 is good and Windows 8/8.1 is a good, solid OS. On every Mac I own, I've two partitions; Mountain Lion and Windows 7/Windows 8.1. They're both good tools to work and play. I enjoy both systems.
The Surface is getting better in every release. It's not an iPad competitor; face it; iPad don't have a real OS. The Surface as a work / play - notebook / tablet, is a good machine and right now, it as no competition.
If you don't like it, don't buy it! I have no brand allegiance; my next purchase will be this new Surface 3. A real innovation on a stagnated market.
I could write more about the "new" obsolete trash can CPUs/GPUs, iOS 7, .... I leave it to you're imagination.
Kind regards
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So to get 500GB of storage+a better i7 processor(seriously how high end could it be considering it's size) it's gonna cost me 2k USD, with a keyboard it'll be 2.1k. Might as well get the best macbook air, and an iPad with that.
You should have Added a massive 'IMO' to some of that. IMO Windows 8 is terrible. a complete miss mash of ideas - FFS you have to have 2 versions of Word, excel, explorer etc and half of them are not compatible with the other side.
The Surface 3 looks lovely but it will still have 50gb of that 128 taken up with the massive MS bloatware and dual apps.
iOS is a complete OS. The only thing lack in is a transparent filesystem. But it's not a competitor to this. This is a laptop with no keyboard. If the iPad pro turns up I fully expect that to be running OSX 10.10 which I bet will have iOS touch capability and a pen. And It's likely to not be called an iPad but will be the new air with a removable keyboard.
While I would be one of the first to purchase a real OS X tablet (with all the goodies I've listed above: 8GB RAM, i5+, Wacom, 3:2 or, even better, 4:3, hi-res (at least, if it's 4:3, 1920*1440), 12+" screen), I really don't think it'll happen. Apple seems to be perfectly satisfied with their current lineup and no rumors have surfaced on a touch-friendly OS X version.
What we'll see is an iOS-based device with, if we're lucky, Wacom, 2GB of RAM and windowed multitasking. But nothing more - no desktop-grade apps, not even USB host support.
Now that (iPad Pro w/ stylus, running OSX with iOS compatibility layer) I would be screaming to get. Alas, unless Apple actually makes one, I'm getting the Surface.
What I'd most love is a native OS X-capable version of the Toughpad 4K Tablet by Panasonic. Then, I would be able to retire my venerable 17" MBP as the 20" tablet would be able to do everything my MBP could - and a lot more.
Pre-ordered a Surface Pro 3 i7 with 512GB today. Looking forward to no longer having to carry two devices (Retina MacBook Pro + iPad Air) around.
I have both iPad and macbook pro retina. and the power of ur mac would be much more than what u could get out of the Surface really. of course it depends on what u do. I do a lot of photography, video work with mine along with a lot of battlefield 4. so surface is so not for me. for the iPad all i do is watch movies with it, and iWork. But u gotta agree the mac retina is really thin and light for the power it's packing.
Most people don't need the i7 but if you're topping out on the high end of the SP3 maybe its not the right tool for you.
For me, I can spend 1,000 for the 128GB model of the SP3 or I can spend 800 dollars for an iPad air. The latter does less and is less powerful then the SP3.
If you compare i5/128gb MBA its the same price so you can either use a SP3 or MBA. I guess it all depends on your requirements.
I agree it depends on one's requirements. I really prefer Mac OS and the Macbook Air doesn't have enough power for my needs so I'm using the 15" Retina pro
Dual Apps... Simple!
Surface Pro:
Tablet mode = Metro UI + Metro Apps
Notebook mode = Desktop UI + Windows Apps
+ AutoCAD, 3Ds Max, Photoshop, XBMC, Steam Games-HOTAS, PS3/XBOX controllers... 2.5" External hdd 500/1/2 TB + External Blu-Ray player/recorder...
*for the brave ones; hackintosh OS X on 2nd partition or external hdd!
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The article has also talked about these types of tablets replacing laptops. I was comparing the benefits of a laptop compared to a tablet in how a laptop is used. I just don't see why we should merge the two together or have the tablets replace the laptop.
I have a rMBP but I also use windows a lot for work. In a sense the SP3 is making sense to me, other then wanting to spend 1,000 because my 2012 rMBP has plenty of life in the old girl.
It's not having actually gotten a virus that concerns me when I run Windows, but the fact that they're out there. How safe do you feel shopping, banking, etc. with a Windows machine? They get new keyloggers, etc. all the time. If your virus checker hasn't added it, you could be the one that gets screwed. Compare that to OSX that has never had more than trojans and worms and very few of those. You can talk about risky online behavior, etc., but I'm talking about feeling secure. That's harder to put a price on.
My old gaming computer is still running XP so I'm talking about updating its virus checker yesterday. Is that recent enough? Yes, Windows7/8 is nicer in terms of an operating system. That doesn't automatically mean it's more secure than the final Windows security update. They've been updating them all along side each other. I'm not talking about how well Windows8 runs (I don't like Metro).
I'm not saying I haven't used Windows7 or 8. I have at work, etc. I simply don't feel any need to get it at home since most new games STILL work in XP and that machine is getting out of date anyway. I don't game as much as I used to and have dozens to play in OSX now first anyway. Family members have Windows7 on their machines (I updated my mother's computer for her all the time running Windows7 before I finally bought her a Macbook that she uses 50x more often now). They STILL require virus checkers. That has not changed.
What does that have to do with the current state of malware? Are you claiming Windows7 and 8 are more secure than the final security patches for XP? In what way? Maybe you mean that they ask you if you are sure you want to run something (Vista was REALLY good at doing that over and over until you were sick of it)?
It's STILL Windows, not UNIX and has 10,000x the Malware out there of OSX and that's being conservative. Ever look at a Virus checker database? There are tens, if not hundreds of thousands of viruses for Windows. There are ZERO for OSX (and I mean a virus, not trojans/worms).
I can see the market moving in this direction potentially. The iPad (and android tablet) is less powerful then a laptop. ITs not has easy to do content creation on a tablet as it is with a laptop. If the devices converge you get the best of both worlds - potentially. The risk though is instead of getting the best of both, you get a watered down product that does neither well.
In the Surface Pro (both the 2 and 3) it seems your getting the best, based on people's actual usage reviews of the SP2.
Why do you need an i7 to view Word docs and edit spreadsheets? The i5 is more than enough for the vast majority of users needs.
Your move, Apple
An MBA 12" Retina with detachable keyboard that functions as OSX when in "Laptop-mode" and as IOS when using as screen only. This would be the the answer to MS, first step. Second step: work on a "combination OS" that combines the best of OSX and IOS in an elegant way.
An MBA 12" Retina with detachable keyboard that functions as OSX when in "Laptop-mode" and as IOS when using as screen only. This would be the the answer to MS, first step. Second step: work on a "combination OS" that combines the best of OSX and IOS in an elegant way.
it's like saying $1949+$130 = me opting for a new custom shop guitar. I wonder if you see the difference between the two products you are dumbly comparing. Are you conscious that MBPr weights a lot more, it's bigger, doesn't have stylus pen nor ability to turn in a tablet form and it's not tightly coupled with the win8 experience? I guess people shouldn't care about your personal choice if you can't address the reason why your preference has real competitive arguments in this context. Unfortunately according to the several likes to your post, lots of people here are very easy to agree on a dumb statement that lacks any explaination except a supposed blind admiration for the competitor brand.
Sure, I was talking more about my needs. I don't think that this is something that everyone, or even most people would want to buy, but I sure am excited about these devices.
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Perfectly safe.
Yep. In more ways than I care to list here. UAC being one. You can read more about Windows security over at Microsoft's website.
Interesting that in Microsoft's use of a "scientific balance scale", that they have not included the TypeCover 3 which would make it a fair comparison.
The current TypeCover 2 weighs 0.56 lbs, which would bring the true weight of the Surface Pro 3 up to 2.31 lbs in it's "ultrabook mode".
The 11" MBA weighs 2.38 lbs, which is indeed slightly heavier. However, it may be interesting to note that the 11" MBA has a 10% larger screen than the 12" Surface Pro 3.
(Surface Pro 3 12.1" screen @ 3:2 aspect ratio equals 52.78 square inches vs. MBA 11.6" screen @ 16:9 aspect ratio equals 57.43 square inches.)
Dumbly comparing... So we shouldn't compare a "laptop replacement" against an actual... laptop?