I still couldn't justify it. Even if I can get the student edition for 120$. there is only ONE program I cannot use on my mac that I use almost daily... autocad... and WHEN I get my new intel mac eventually.... i will use xp most likely... 
It will probably take a few weeks for the prices to come down, but it will happen soon.
You mean our dearest Mr. Steve Jobs? Yes, he did!The funny part is that they don't even have a Mac nor a iPod... I guess the marketing guys at Apple did a good job!![]()
Ummm no they aren't. Longhorn is Vista's code name. The two are the same. Sometime in 2003 Microsoft relized that using XP's code base for Vista wasn't going to work and they literally started from scratch with Server 2003's code. In the next 2 years MS dropped several major features of Longhorn and then finally announced the official name in 2004, I think it was '04, as Vista. If you are going to talk Vista get the story straight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista
FWIW, this is easily done on safari by enabling the debug menu.Oh just so others know.....
T mobile is having a nice promo for anyone running Vista. 3 free months of WIFI service at any of their access points scattered around the US as long as you are running Vista. How are they authenticating that you have Vista? Through your browser's user agent of course. And away we go......
1. Download the firefox extension for spoofing user-agents: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/
2. Restart firefox and goto: Tools > User Agent Switcher > Options > Options...
3. Click "User Agents" and then "Add"
4. Fill out the window with following info:
Description: Internet Explorer 7 (Windows Vista)
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0)
App Name: Microsoft Internet Explorer
App Version: 4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0)
Platform: Win32
5. Save it, goto Tools > User Agent Switcher > Then click the newly added one. Browse over to http://hotspot.t-mobile.com/vista/ and you should be redirected to a trial sign-up page. (NO CCARD REQUIRED.)
Hmmm does this break the rules on Macrumors?Technically I guess it is stealing.
I'll let a moderator decide that one and see if the post goes poof.
A few points
-As a prevous poster said it is "eye candy." It is nice to finally see a new look.
-It definately copies several things Mac OS has first such as gadgets, mail, calendar, contacts, search, and photo. However it is nice to see these things on a pc.
-If it ends up being more secure it will definately be a worthwhile upgrade.
-It is definately much less cluttered.
Let me say I like macs, I like all tech related things, I could care less who makes the OS as long as it works.
Appearntly alot of you are already MCSE's on Vista and know the OS inside and out, enough to make statements to general that if someone outside this forum asked you a question and you answered in the same form you'd be a complete ass..
Face the facts, Aero (the "clear glass") runs on DirectX, Microsoft doesn't care if you don't have the hardware to run it, disable it or don't use it. We test Vista and have been for 5 months on every type of hardware configuration we can think up at our offices and it is snappy as can be. If you can't afford a gig of ram, you can't afford a computer let alone the powerbill to run it.
I like how alot of you claim that Microsoft steals all of "Apple's" innovations, let me tell you a little thing. Apple's OS is based on a GNU distro of Unix, Apple has since then given nothing back to the open source community from there OS. A majority of the apps in OS X are all purchased and or ripped from small time developers. Is this wrong? NO! Why re-invent the wheel? Are you telling me if Ford comes out with a new power steering tomorrow that requires no power steering pump no one else in the industry will try and mimic this? Its competition get over it.
I can tell you right now, Vista is a great OS. It is what XP should of been and more. The GUI is more then enough, what the hell more do you need, do you guys just sit and open and close apps to watch the effects instead of using them to get work done? The developer tools are amazing and years ahead of any other os. The longhorn server / Vista features are again outstanding, have a look for yourself. Windows update actually works, no more issues with drivers it finds 99% of everything.
All I am saying is try it out, and it is not as expensive as you think www.newegg.com and grab yourself an OEM version for $149 - $199....
If you like macs thats fine, but don't bash something you know nothing about.
I understand. What I mean to say is that the original Longhorn concept was a hell of a lot cooler than the final release of Vista.
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Face the facts, Aero (the "clear glass") runs on DirectX, Microsoft doesn't care if you don't have the hardware to run it, disable it or don't use it. We test Vista and have been for 5 months on every type of hardware configuration we can think up at our offices and it is snappy as can be. If you can't afford a gig of ram, you can't afford a computer let alone the powerbill to run it.
ryanyogan said:I like how alot of you claim that Microsoft steals all of "Apple's" innovations, let me tell you a little thing. Apple's OS is based on a GNU distro of Unix, Apple has since then given nothing back to the open source community from there OS. A majority of the apps in OS X are all purchased and or ripped from small time developers. Is this wrong? NO! Why re-invent the wheel? Are you telling me if Ford comes out with a new power steering tomorrow that requires no power steering pump no one else in the industry will try and mimic this? Its competition get over it.
ryanyogan said:I can tell you right now, Vista is a great OS. It is what XP should of been and more. The GUI is more then enough, what the hell more do you need, do you guys just sit and open and close apps to watch the effects instead of using them to get work done?
ryanyogan said:The developer tools are amazing and years ahead of any other os. The longhorn server / Vista features are again outstanding, have a look for yourself. Windows update actually works, no more issues with drivers it finds 99% of everything.
ryanyogan said:All I am saying is try it out, and it is not as expensive as you think www.newegg.com and grab yourself an OEM version for $149 - $199....
Perhaps people can get Vista help from the Mac Geniuses?![]()
I agree. Retail OS X copies aren't upgrades, so it's only fair to count the full priced versions of Windows.
Agreed. Ultimate is very slow, and things that took three clicks to do in XP now take 5 clicks in Visa. No run option from Start, hard to reach tcp/ip settings, etc. I hope they fix the performance issues :/
However, I also strongly expect Leopard to be more advanced than Vista on a number of levels. So interesting times ahead!
I've been in a stack of big department stores and nobody - NOBODY - was buying it. No-one was even looking at it. These were your top of the line department stores well known for their computer departments and I've seen one - ONE - computer running Vista.
I've been in a stack of big department stores and nobody - NOBODY - was buying it. No-one was even looking at it. These were your top of the line department stores well known for their computer departments and I've seen one - ONE - computer running Vista.
Let me say I like macs, I like all tech related things, I could care less who makes the OS as long as it works.
Appearntly alot of you are already MCSE's on Vista and know the OS inside and out, enough to make statements to general that if someone outside this forum asked you a question and you answered in the same form you'd be a complete ass..
Face the facts, Aero (the "clear glass") runs on DirectX, Microsoft doesn't care if you don't have the hardware to run it, disable it or don't use it. We test Vista and have been for 5 months on every type of hardware configuration we can think up at our offices and it is snappy as can be. If you can't afford a gig of ram, you can't afford a computer let alone the powerbill to run it.
I like how alot of you claim that Microsoft steals all of "Apple's" innovations, let me tell you a little thing. Apple's OS is based on a GNU distro of Unix, Apple has since then given nothing back to the open source community from there OS. A majority of the apps in OS X are all purchased and or ripped from small time developers. Is this wrong? NO! Why re-invent the wheel? Are you telling me if Ford comes out with a new power steering tomorrow that requires no power steering pump no one else in the industry will try and mimic this? Its competition get over it.
I can tell you right now, Vista is a great OS. It is what XP should of been and more. The GUI is more then enough, what the hell more do you need, do you guys just sit and open and close apps to watch the effects instead of using them to get work done? The developer tools are amazing and years ahead of any other os. The longhorn server / Vista features are again outstanding, have a look for yourself. Windows update actually works, no more issues with drivers it finds 99% of everything.
All I am saying is try it out, and it is not as expensive as you think www.newegg.com and grab yourself an OEM version for $149 - $199....
If you like macs thats fine, but don't bash something you know nothing about.
Still, as of this moment, I see no reason to upgrade from XP because I only use it for gaming and the occasional Illustrator CS2.
Oh just so others know.....
T mobile is having a nice promo for anyone running Vista. 3 free months of WIFI service at any of their access points scattered around the US as long as you are running Vista. How are they authenticating that you have Vista? Through your browser's user agent of course. And away we go......
1. Download the firefox extension for spoofing user-agents: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/
2. Restart firefox and goto: Tools > User Agent Switcher > Options > Options...
3. Click "User Agents" and then "Add"
4. Fill out the window with following info:
Description: Internet Explorer 7 (Windows Vista)
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0)
App Name: Microsoft Internet Explorer
App Version: 4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0)
Platform: Win32
5. Save it, goto Tools > User Agent Switcher > Then click the newly added one. Browse over to http://hotspot.t-mobile.com/vista/ and you should be redirected to a trial sign-up page. (NO CCARD REQUIRED.)
Hmmm does this break the rules on Macrumors?Technically I guess it is stealing.
I'll let a moderator decide that one and see if the post goes poof.