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I'm a very proud Mac user that occasionally needs to use Windows via Boot Camp and/or Parallels. I've never been kind towards Microsoft, but decided against my better judgement to actually purchase my own copy of Windows Vista for my iMac at home so that I can work from home when needed. This is the story of how what little faith I had in Microsoft was ruined - by Microsoft./QUOTE]


Wow! I feel your pain. I hate when circumstances come together to create a pain in the ass roadblock like that.

However, I have one question for you. Can't you load Vista anyway? XP lets you go ahead and install but will deactivate after a certain time period.

Doesn't Vista allow you to go ahead and install now and then activate when you get the proper registration numbers at a later date?
 
reality check:

BBC uk poll for yesterday in the technology news section.

does the WOW starts now for you?

yes?
no?


^ .. 19% say yes ... 81% say no

redmond stockup on angina pills.


That is very true... I think that WOW starts here will kill windows, because it is not true. I sat through some training sessions for window vista at CES and I was laughing when the vista demonstrator was telling the audience now you should say WOW. The people at the audience were not impressed at all and I was thinking will I have most of the features in my Mac OS X already what is the big deal.

Anyway, I think for those people who have been waiting for Vista before making there decision to switch to Mac platforms now they have a very good reason to switch and leave Microsoft. I think Vista is going to Kill Microsoft's domination, specially when Leopard comes out. This will be a wonderful year for Apple, if you don't have Apples stock it is still a good time to buy. There market share should pass 10% and keep moving up.
 
huh ?

That is very true... I think that WOW starts here will kill windows, because it is not true. I sat through some training sessions for window vista at CES and I was laughing when the vista demonstrator was telling the audience now you should say WOW. The people at the audience were not impressed at all and I was thinking will I have most of the features in my Mac OS X already what is the big deal.

Anyway, I think for those people who have been waiting for Vista before making there decision to switch to Mac platforms now they have a very good reason to switch and leave Microsoft. I think Vista is going to Kill Microsoft's domination, specially when Leopard comes out. This will be a wonderful year for Apple, if you don't have Apples stock it is still a good time to buy. There market share should pass 10% and keep moving up.

This will kill windows ? I don't see how that is going to happen since 95 % of the pcees being sold world wide as of today will be shipping with Windows Vista just like it was with XP, so unless 55% of the people switch to Mac computers that is not gonna chance anything. Most people i know would just go for the next version of windows anyway since they are used to working wit it for so may years now , they don't feel like learning a new OS at all.
 
yeah, as much as i love os x, i'm looking forward to seeing what vista is like

agreed, i mean, ive only played around with it for a bit, and i have to say its a major leap from xp. theres a lot of stuff that makes it easier to use.

but honestly, still love my os x :p
 
Look like you fanboys sure are....4 pages of saying how great the latest version of the Apple OS is??

Nobody cares..maybe. The 4% of people worldwide running Apple sure as hell seem to :D

Do you find this surprising?

Seriously, Windows has finally started to take some of the steps OS X took five years ago. Between a sense of vindication (after all the "that'll never work! It'll always be slow!" nay-saying from Redmond) and a sense of excitement over Apple finally having some external pressure to make large advances again, I'd have been really surprised if those of us who love our Macs weren't interested in Vista. Add to that the near-universal truism that we'll have to deal with Vista at work some day in the (distant?) future, and will continue to have to play tech support for our Windows friends and family, and there's really not much of a "just ignore the flop" choice there: we have to hope that the "advances" there will turn out to be more than marketing.

What it tells me, though, is that we're apparently more interested in it than Windows customers. Which means that we've been expecting a lot more out of Vista than was delivered. Which is a bad thing for all involved, unfortunately.
 
Did you ever think that part of the lack of excitement is due to the fact that Vista was released in November to businesses?

I have it running on three machines, so I certainly wasn't going to go to a store at midnight to get a copy.

If Microsoft doesn't want to be mocked for their big event being a dud, they shouldn't send their shills out to every talk show in the universe and send their infomercials to every local TV station with five minutes to fill.

If they expected this to hit with a resounding silence, then they sure didn't act like it.

BTW, I haven't seen any businesses picking up on Vista either. Granted, I only interface with a handful of corporations, but that hand full is sticking with XP for as long as they can.
 
This will kill windows ? I don't see how that is going to happen since 95 % of the pcees being sold world wide as of today will be shipping with Windows Vista just like it was with XP, so unless 55% of the people switch to Mac computers that is not gonna chance anything. Most people i know would just go for the next version of windows anyway since they are used to working wit it for so may years now , they don't feel like learning a new OS at all.

Are you serious? Perhaps you don't use Macs so you don't know anything about beating market share eh, bud? :mad:
 
...Seems like the news orgs decided they'd given too much publicity to Apple over the iPhone and wanted to make up for it in one day.

Off topic but a few friends of mine (total of 3 actually) were asking if I'll get the iPhone in June. All 3 said they would get it for sure (...)
The funny part is that they don't even have a Mac nor a iPod... I guess the marketing guys at Apple did a good job! ;)
 
for anyone who wants to try out vista: http://www.windowsvistatestdrive.com/

Its got to be in IE though. But I understand why. MS lets you play around with virtual sessions on a server up in the sky somewhere. Enter an e-mail address (can be fake.) Click on one of the propa....I mean feature buttons. Then click on the test drive button. It will start up what I'm assuming is a Virtual Server session. You can jack up the resolution of you want more then the standard 800 x 600 window. Kinda slick.

Wow. That website is plain sick. Can't believe they do all that from the browser. Really cool.

Thanks for sharing.
 
Wow. That website is plain sick. Can't believe they do all that from the browser. Really cool.

Thanks for sharing.

It's basically just a remote desktop client to some server in Redmond (or somewhere) - the browser is just the delivery platform for the program (ActiveX control) you ran on your PC to access it.
 
I believe I speak for the majority of people on this forum

... in expressing the sentiment for Vista's release in one word - PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT! :D
 
Bah. Everyone knows that MS just copied OS X, and when Leopard comes out we'll leave them in the dust again.

Actually MS is already in the dust - I still can't believe how crude XP is when I've used it since switching. Haven't used Vista yet, but it'll be interesting to see how it is.

I will be making the switch to Mac when Leopard comes out. Does anyone know when the official launch date is?, will it ship at the end of feb? Ready to make the jump but want to have a macbook preinstalled with the Leopard. :apple:
 
I've owned my iMac (PPC) for just over a year........

All I can say is "Why didn't I buy one sooner!!"....

I have no desire, nay, no intentions of switching back to a Windows machine.

Who cares about Vista. My IT guy at work said they won't be upgrading the systems to Vista.....too risky!!! They've just been able to stabilize the network on XP, so going to Vista would be too costly, time consuming and, like I said, risky.

But, I'm sure they'll sell a ton of them because they're on 95% of the machines out there. However, I wonder if more people will start switching to Linux due to all the bad publicity Vista's receiving?

I feel you. the dancing windows people outside of the building in NY did not do much but ahhh people but i am upset with the computer manufacturers that they failed to come out with new models and all they did was upgrade to the minimum requirements of vista, what a waste!!!!!!!

im waiting on a no lemon to get a mac through best buy, glad that they carry mac on their website!!!:)
 
sorry if this has been posted already...

but i was watching "regis and kelly" this morning to see leo laporte talk about computers. leo showed off the 24" iMac and it was running vista under parallels...it runs but is the problem that it doesn't run well? (gotta go and read the original post, i guess)...
 
sitting here patiently

*at my desk, as I have for quite a few years now, thinking to myself*


"what's vista?.... I'm waiting for Longhorn"
 
I will be making the switch to Mac when Leopard comes out. Does anyone know when the official launch date is?, will it ship at the end of feb? Ready to make the jump but want to have a macbook preinstalled with the Leopard. :apple:

Doubtful. Very unlikely. And no one knows the exact date or for that matter a real approximation. All everyone knows it end of spring. So... sorry man.
 
Apart from a few hundred Mac fanboys here in this forum ;-)
As much as I like my Mac: Windows will stay the dominating operating system, since Microsoft has the industry behind it. Why? Because nobody wants to be dependent on a single supplier, who controls the whole platform. At least Microsoft licenses its operating system to other hardware manufacturers...

And: Mac OS X doesn't run on the tablet PC that I want so desperately.
Anyway, I'm trying to stay open to all platforms, using my Mac at home and Linux/Vista at my office.

cheers,
Georg

Although I agree that Windows will stay the dominating operating system for quite some time; I must disagree regarding the industry. Different Industry's and sub players (major) within are looking for different avenues. Here's where I plug in Apple's Final Cut Studio Pro, and Germany's government offices ALL running Linux on their computers & network. I feel that once a pure office environement that offers FULL compatibility with Office 2002XP & with a specific Linux kernel designed for the desktop & look & feel is much more refined (and copyright borderline look of Windows) then, THEN we'll see pure competition. ALso when 3rd party developers see more profits making software for such a kernel we'll see more users using Linux. Lastly I do believe that IBM & Compaq is shipping Linux already on laptops/desktops. Its slow but its happening.

You keep forgetting that Microsoft STILL controls the OS that it licenses to manufacturer's and doesn't allow critic creativity control being done to the core OS where it'll be unfamiliar in action, operating from what is on the market shelf. This isn't too far from what Palm Inc did with their OS to Sony before the sub-divisioned (Palm Source) sale of the OS (Access/Palm Source 2). As industries compartmentalize or adapt & grow to changing needs of business & end user > Sony dropped Palm OS and stopped making PDA's all together and partnered with Ericsson to make SE. Now SE is focused on Symbian UIQ3 (even purchasing UIQ3) - no matter even if features its an uphill battle & market share is lower than even MS/S60 they will NOT go back to Microsft Mobile OS.

Lastly, DELL, Toshiba, Gateway IS dependant on one vender ... Microsoft! Now new hardware advancement without a new OS, well they'll advance but nothing major will ship until Vista.
 
*at my desk, as I have for quite a few years now, thinking to myself*


"what's vista?.... I'm waiting for Longhorn"

I'm sure you're probably joking, but Vista and "Longhorn" are actually very different. Unlike Vista, the first editions of Longhorn (never released publicly, but some info was leaked) were actually decent releases and had some really cool features. Vista is just NT's latest makeover...
 
I'm sure you're probably joking, but Vista and "Longhorn" are actually very different. Unlike Vista, the first editions of Longhorn (never released publicly, but some info was leaked) were actually decent releases and had some really cool features. Vista is just NT's latest makeover...

Yep.. just joking, but still, kinda thought that "Longhorn" made a better
name than vista. *L*

It's still just ms's way of trying to shoot first, but missing the target.


Though. I do have to give it too them, by way of the 360 v. ps3. They did that one right.
 
Where are you guys getting your information

Let me say I like macs, I like all tech related things, I could care less who makes the OS as long as it works.

Appearntly alot of you are already MCSE's on Vista and know the OS inside and out, enough to make statements to general that if someone outside this forum asked you a question and you answered in the same form you'd be a complete ass..

Face the facts, Aero (the "clear glass") runs on DirectX, Microsoft doesn't care if you don't have the hardware to run it, disable it or don't use it. We test Vista and have been for 5 months on every type of hardware configuration we can think up at our offices and it is snappy as can be. If you can't afford a gig of ram, you can't afford a computer let alone the powerbill to run it.

I like how alot of you claim that Microsoft steals all of "Apple's" innovations, let me tell you a little thing. Apple's OS is based on a GNU distro of Unix, Apple has since then given nothing back to the open source community from there OS. A majority of the apps in OS X are all purchased and or ripped from small time developers. Is this wrong? NO! Why re-invent the wheel? Are you telling me if Ford comes out with a new power steering tomorrow that requires no power steering pump no one else in the industry will try and mimic this? Its competition get over it.

I can tell you right now, Vista is a great OS. It is what XP should of been and more. The GUI is more then enough, what the hell more do you need, do you guys just sit and open and close apps to watch the effects instead of using them to get work done? The developer tools are amazing and years ahead of any other os. The longhorn server / Vista features are again outstanding, have a look for yourself. Windows update actually works, no more issues with drivers it finds 99% of everything.

All I am saying is try it out, and it is not as expensive as you think www.newegg.com and grab yourself an OEM version for $149 - $199....

If you like macs thats fine, but don't bash something you know nothing about.
 
I'm sure you're probably joking, but Vista and "Longhorn" are actually very different. Unlike Vista, the first editions of Longhorn (never released publicly, but some info was leaked) were actually decent releases and had some really cool features. Vista is just NT's latest makeover...

Ummm no they aren't. Longhorn is Vista's code name. The two are the same. Sometime in 2003 Microsoft relized that using XP's code base for Vista wasn't going to work and they literally started from scratch with Server 2003's code. In the next 2 years MS dropped several major features of Longhorn and then finally announced the official name in 2004, I think it was '04, as Vista. If you are going to talk Vista get the story straight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista
 
3 free months of tmobile for Vista users....and OS X users, and Linux users, and...

Oh just so others know.....


T mobile is having a nice promo for anyone running Vista. 3 free months of WIFI service at any of their access points scattered around the US as long as you are running Vista. How are they authenticating that you have Vista? Through your browser's user agent of course. And away we go......


1. Download the firefox extension for spoofing user-agents: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/

2. Restart firefox and goto: Tools > User Agent Switcher > Options > Options...

3. Click "User Agents" and then "Add"

4. Fill out the window with following info:
Description: Internet Explorer 7 (Windows Vista)
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0)
App Name: Microsoft Internet Explorer
App Version: 4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0)
Platform: Win32

5. Save it, goto Tools > User Agent Switcher > Then click the newly added one. Browse over to http://hotspot.t-mobile.com/vista/ and you should be redirected to a trial sign-up page. (NO CCARD REQUIRED.)


Hmmm does this break the rules on Macrumors? :confused: Technically I guess it is stealing. :confused: I'll let a moderator decide that one and see if the post goes poof.
 
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