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..and this "compare" will always continue, to try and bash other products only when they know they SIri, can't do it, or Siri can't do that.

I mean, doe it really matter now days,,, just get the phone you want and quick complaining MS.

It's not a race to the finish line, although most manufactures reckon it is..

It's about time companies know its about choice... & features ...that's it

If that is really important to you, then why bother coming out with the bashing/suttle difference ?

They make it sound like it's a big deal...... As, though any company actually enjoys bashing other products..... Try not to loose your kool Microsoft.

You haven't got much left.

You can bet though now MS to take a stab... Apple will have to follow suit with this "new phone that does something better than this MS phone"

I'm getting tired of the whole race..... (What else is on)

That was actually difficult to read due to the numerous typos. I guess my point is... if you want to be an authority about a subject, at least don't be lazy with your writing. :p
 
Ugh, still using the old voice even though they're depicting iOS 7. But more glaringly, I create location based reminders primarily with Siri, what are they talking about?

I thought that at first, but they say "any" flower shop. Siri requires a specific location rather than a general description of a place. I do wonder how that affects battery life though as adding a geofence for every flower shop or coffee shop would be adding a lot of possible locations...
 
It's a reflection of how Apple is not focused on software. They do just enough to sell their products and that's it. Take Pages and Numbers... both could've been better than Microsoft applications but Apple just doesn't work on them to the degree that it should, which is why Microsoft is still around. For Apple to dominate desktop computers and stay ahead in the smartphone space, it needs to develop the software side more... which is why Android has more features than iOS and iOS is slowly incorporating widgets after how long?
 
"Remind me to get roses when I get to a flower shop"
Wow!
Can it remind me to start my car when I get in my car?
What a bunch of theoretical improvements with no real value in practice.

Translation: Apple didn't do it, so it doesn't matter.
 
Don't get me wrong - Siri was a breakthrough in technology when it was introduced.

But it hasn't evolved much ever since... So it's no surprise that Google and Microsoft surpassed Apple with their own speech recognition services.

- One of my biggest gripes in Siri - and it's there to stay - is that it requires the Internet. Why Apple, why ?

iOS 8 brings a lot more of Siri onto the device, no Internet connection required.

- Then, in French, they have a hard time understanding music bands who have english names - so I need to use Siri in English all the time, or else I have to cripple my music demands.
- Then, I'd like it to confirm before calling anybody - because yes, I can tell it "Play the song Heartbeat", and it'll call Kevin. I can't refine my accent any better, I sound like an American (this is to all of you, egomaniac Americans).
- Then, there's the lack of 3rd-party apps support.

Again, changing in iOS 8.

- Then, there's the lack of custom homemade Siri questions. I'd like to make up my own questions myself, and set up actions, a little bit like Automatic on the Mac, but for speech recognition. Of course, 3rd-party actions would be there.

This is a good idea. Tell Apple. www.apple.com/feedback
 
Siri works fine for many people, depending on their use.

It's analogous to fingerprint ID sensors. You are either one of those people where the fingerprint ID works very well for you. Or you are one of those people where it NEVER seems to work correctly for you, for some odd reason. Sometimes you come up with excuses, you have fat fingers, you have sweaty fingers, you have other excuses, but it simply NEVER works for you.

But it does work for many other users. So stop judging it for them.

We love to throw our opinions out there, for sure. But you're right. That is strictly speaking from my own experience working with the feature. I just wish Apple had taken the time to update and expand Siri the same way that Google and Microsoft have updated Google Now and Cortana.

To me, Siri at this point is still a novelty, kitchy marketing feature that seems to work only half the time, but little beyond.
 
It's a reflection of how Apple is not focused on software. They do just enough to sell their products and that's it. Take Pages and Numbers... both could've been better than Microsoft applications but Apple just doesn't work on them to the degree that it should, which is why Microsoft is still around. For Apple to dominate desktop computers and stay ahead in the smartphone space, it needs to develop the software side more... which is why Android has more features than iOS and iOS is slowly incorporating widgets after how long?

I'm half-and-half on agreeing with this. I don't think Apple's motives are as you describe. I just think they take a very conservative effort for the goal of simplicity and consistency. Different goals, but very similar outcome. Changes come slowly, and the software is not cluttered with hundreds of useless features.
 
All of these voice assistants look great in commercials with a white background. Get them out in the real world and start using proper nouns with ambient noise around you and it's a complete disaster. I stopped using Siri years ago. :rolleyes:
 
It's a fact that Siri is a joke. It hardly ever works, but still people defend it. I use Google Now on my 4S and it just works better.

No, that's your opinion. It's a fact that for at least some people, Siri works very well and they use it frequently.
 
True,

But Microsoft is lying here. Siri can do at least some of the tasks shown but with more steps, like having a location based reminder

That's the point... Siri requires you to know where a flower shop may be, and even then will only remind you to buy flowers as you're walking into the shop....

How, exactly, is that useful in the real world at all?

Being reminded to do something when you're about to drive by a shop, actually is useful, and exactly what many of us have been asking Apple for since Reminders first came out.

I think the bigger news is that it seems like someone at Microsoft has been reading macrumors.com comments and listening to us more than Apple has. Either that, or all my comments at apple.com/feedback get directed to an in-box at Microsoft?
 
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Siri was a great innovation, to be sure, but apple never really did anything with it. Google, and MS not only caught up with it, but surpassed Siri in features and abilities.

Curious that you're talking about Siri in the past tense, like Apple has given up on it. Do you have some inside information to share?
 
This might actually be a great software, but I'd be a lot less biased if they didn't directly compare their phone to the iPhone. Especially the Siri voice basically literally saying "I'm such a bad phone, the Lumia is much better" is just uncreative and dumb. It's really lazy advertising in my eyes.

Comparing a tablet to a pencil is revolutionary.
 
But, hum, Siri COULD do those things (and did when I tried).

Interesting how the tables have turned on the Mac vs PC commercials. It's now Microsoft that makes them.

Apples were accurate. I told Siri to set a reminder to tell my wife happy anniversary when she called (Siri created a reminder), the flower shop was not hard to find. I don't know what Microsoft was trying to show, but I'm pretty sure this was wrong since I was able to do them myself.
 
apple.com/feedback

Based on this ad, I have to wonder, do all my posts to apple.com/feedback get directed to an in-box at Microsoft?

;-)
 
Window's Phone 8.1 looks pretty good.
The Swipe Typing holds the Guinness Book of World's Record for Fastest Smart Phone keyboard entry.

Too bad Cortana doesn't actually sound like Cortana and call you "Chief" all the time.

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Curious that you're talking about Siri in the past tense, like Apple has given up on it. Do you have some inside information to share?

Apple is hiring up for the Siri Team. I know someone personally who got hired to work on it. Expect Siri improvements.

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cortana, who named you?

Catherine Elizabeth Halsey
 
You can ask her/him to remind you to do something when u leave a place... Or when u get to a place.. But not the next time you talk to a person

While Siri does have a certain amount of geo-aware and reminder capabilities, Cortana appears more advanced. I've yet to read anything about Siri advancements in iOS 8. Maybe similar capability is coming...

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Cortana is far batter than Siri in my experience. Although, Google Now is also better than Siri too. What happened to Siri Apple?

I know. My mom got some new "smart phone" form Cricket. When I saw her last, she was showing me Google Now. Quick, accurate. Pretty impressive. Much more so than Siri - much to my dismay. ;)
Hopefully, iOS 8 will help bridge that gap?
 
Yes, yes, yes...Microsoft....you're f.king 3 years behind. Stop following Samsung with bashing craps. It doesn't help your sales.
 
Apples were accurate. I told Siri to set a reminder to tell my wife happy anniversary when she called (Siri created a reminder), the flower shop was not hard to find. I don't know what Microsoft was trying to show, but I'm pretty sure this was wrong since I was able to do them myself.

That may be, but my point had nothing to do with the accuracy or quality of the ad but how Microsoft now use the same approach and position themselves against "the standard" which most people are familiar with. That standard to compare against is now iPhone/iOS, not Windows.
 
I’ll admit to being impressed with the functionality that’s been built into Cortana. But there’s no way in the burning underworlds they’ll ever sell me a phone/tablet/ecosystem that has a user experience I hate based on a digital assitant.

Kinda like they’ll never sell me a tablet that’s supposed to replace my laptop by advertising a kickstand that makes it unusable as a laptop for me.

Sorry, Microsoft. You’re heading in the right direction, but you’re not even close yet.
 
They are not PCs at all, except maybe in the all inclusive literal meaning "Personal Computer". But if that's the interpretation we should use then even the old Mac vs PC ads were PC vs PC ads.

The old Mac vs PC ads were indeed also PC vs PC ads. As every Mac is also a personal computer.
 
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