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But that definition is useless here, since all computers intended for personal use are PCs.

Not true. A personal computer is just that. The rest of your post is correct about IBM PCs. Whether people think of IBC derived PCs as a "the" PC it does not change the fact that Macs are PCs as well.
 
Just guessing here, but are samedung and microflop running scared of the upcoming IBM Watson backed Siri update?

Apple can purchase five of those any time now for consumer support, and IBM matches with another five for enterprise support.

Oh well, maybe it will happen...

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If comparison to a competitors product is the highest compliment a company can give, why is apple unable to go through a whole wwdc or Idevice release without spending a decent amount of time talking about the shortcomings of Android? :cool:

Because android is a stolen product/idea?
 
So all the users of this Apple forum say that Siri is garbage because it is incapable of reminding me of buying flowers from a flower shop that I can already see with my eyes.
I do this real moron thing, which is thinking of doing something, and then doing it.
I once had a Galaxy S3 for two weeks, over a year ago. It has nothing to do with voice assistants, I'm just saying that because everyone loves to establish some sort of credibility like "Oh I use non-iPhones so I am the most neutral and balanced". And BTW that phone was a pile of garbage, and its rear camera died out of nowhere. But it had a lot if gigahertz and RAM and stuff so it was good rite??!?

They say that the best camera is the one you have with you. I say the best phone is the phone that is fully functional.

Hey Cortana, remind me to stop next time I drive up to a stop sign.
Hey Cortana, next time I wake my phone, remind me to unlock it.
Hey Cortana, remind me to open my eyes when I wake up in the morning.
Hey Cortana, remind me to eat next time I'm feeling hungry.
Hey Cortana, next time I'm using Cortana, remind me to say something to it so that it can do what I tell it to do.

These are jokes, of course. Actually, voice assistants can probably not even do these commands! What underdeveloped pieces of software!

Does anyone actually use assistants? Even Siri is pointless. Is touching your touchscreen phone and using your brain to remember things throughout the day too much? Are people really so distracted by things that they need to be reminded of their anniversary?

I can't wait to be called a fanboy for trashing ALL voice assistants.
 
"I am named after Cortana, the AI from Halo.
Or since she's 500 years in the future, she may have named herself
after me."

Is this seriously what she responds??

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Akihiko! Err I mean, Liam O' Brian! WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOINING THE DARK SIDE!?

Also, lol they stole the look of the iPhone 5c, and are even showing off it's colors (which look very alike), so they use the 5S instead of the C, as to not show their blatant copying on camera.:rolleyes:

Pathetic.
 
Not a fan of the ad, but no doubt Cortana is a solid performer even if she is late to the party. Sadly, as of the latest iOS 8 beta, there isn't much of an improvement to Siri. I use Siri almost daily, but nearly every time she reminds me of her shortcomings.
 
So all the users of this Apple forum say that Siri is garbage because it is incapable of reminding me of buying flowers from a flower shop that I can already see with my eyes.
I do this real moron thing, which is thinking of doing something, and then doing it.
I once had a Galaxy S3 for two weeks, over a year ago. It has nothing to do with voice assistants, I'm just saying that because everyone loves to establish some sort of credibility like "Oh I use non-iPhones so I am the most neutral and balanced". And BTW that phone was a pile of garbage, and its rear camera died out of nowhere. But it had a lot if gigahertz and RAM and stuff so it was good rite??!?

They say that the best camera is the one you have with you. I say the best phone is the phone that is fully functional.

Hey Cortana, remind me to stop next time I drive up to a stop sign.
Hey Cortana, next time I wake my phone, remind me to unlock it.
Hey Cortana, remind me to open my eyes when I wake up in the morning.
Hey Cortana, remind me to eat next time I'm feeling hungry.
Hey Cortana, next time I'm using Cortana, remind me to say something to it so that it can do what I tell it to do.

These are jokes, of course. Actually, voice assistants can probably not even do these commands! What underdeveloped pieces of software!

Does anyone actually use assistants? Even Siri is pointless. Is touching your touchscreen phone and using your brain to remember things throughout the day too much? Are people really so distracted by things that they need to be reminded of their anniversary?

I can't wait to be called a fanboy for trashing ALL voice assistants.


Listen up everybody!!! I think voice assistants are dumb and useless and I never use them. So nobody should use or talk about them. Because, logic.

Also, apart from the awesome scenarios that you mentioned above that make perfect sense, people use it for genuine reminders. And not everybody is super smart like you and cannot always remember everything. Not because they are stupid, but they might have other things in their mind.

Having the option to be reminded never hurts even if you never/rarely use it.
 
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No doubt, expectations are high for these assistants.
I love being able to offload my various errands, reminders, etc onto my phone. Hopefully Siri gets versions of the skills from this ad and more.
 
Is this seriously what she responds??

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Akihiko! Err I mean, Liam O' Brian! WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOINING THE DARK SIDE!?

Also, lol they stole the look of the iPhone 5c, and are even showing off it's colors (which look very alike), so they use the 5S instead of the C, as to not show their blatant copying on camera.:rolleyes:

Pathetic.

You do realize that Nokia have been making colorful phones with polycarbonate shells from 2011 right? They even made fun of apple in twitter when they announced 5C.
 
It's not that Siri can't make location based reminders, it's a very specific case where it's a reminder based on a type of location (flower shop) rather than a specific location (555 A st, "home", or "current location")

I'm surprised I haven't seen a comment about how apple can't do this because of apple maps ;-)
At least in my area, apple maps is still fourth on my phone (google, waze, foursquare) and likely wouldn't have enough accurate information for the "remind when I pass store type XX" idea to be useful. Very attractive, but in my experience not practical for apple.
 
Listen up everybody!!! I think voice assistants are dumb and useless and I never use them. So nobody should use or talk about them. Because, logic.

You quoted my whole post, so I'd like you to quote the part where I said that nobody should use them. And you can also tell me how my rant is presented as "logic"

It's a comedic rant of mine, but I still think people that need such reminders are idiots.
 
Why doesn't he just call his wife to tell her Happy Anniversary? Why wait until she calls? What if there are no flower shops along the way? Wouldn't it just be more convenient to set a reminder to go to a specific flower shop as soon as you leave your location?
 
“We have to let go of this notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose,”
— Steve Jobs,
:apple: Macworld, August 1997

Thank you. Stuff like this breeds competition and pushes the devices you prefer from the companies you prefer to innovate or update further.
 
You quoted my whole post, so I'd like you to quote the part where I said that nobody should use them. And you can also tell me how my rant is presented as "logic"

It's a comedic rant of mine, but I still think people that need such reminders are idiots.

Calling other people idiots for using them is the same as saying nobody should use them.

But only an idiot could come up with the scenarios you mentioned. I'll give you that. In the real world you can use them for actual purposes, like, 'remind me to make payment for that random store's credit card which I used that one time when I reach home'.

Just because you are incapable of thinking of useful situations doesn't mean everybody else is an idiot.
 
Why doesn't he just call his wife to tell her Happy Anniversary? Why wait until she calls? What if there are no flower shops along the way? Wouldn't it just be more convenient to set a reminder to go to a specific flower shop as soon as you leave your location?

Even though he says 'next time my wife calls' Cortana only considered that as 'next time you talk to your wife'. It doesn't matter whether they have a call or text or email, Cortana will remind. But the reason used in the ad was too cheesy that it is stupid.

As for the flower shop part, if you choose a specific shop and there is heavy traffic on the way or the road is closed, you will miss that shop and won't be reminded. Saying any flower shop can avoid that. Again, this will be useful for mundane things we don't usually remember but not for something like the one shown in the ad.
 
that nokia phone looks really nice. Might finally replace my 3GS with it

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LOL - out of spite for Microsoft Apple fans will say digital assistants are pointless?

only a true MS lover would say something like that (looked at your signature :p) I doubt it, digital assistants are fantastic for some and pointless for others. Anyone who tries to generalise whether it is useless or not is just silly no matter what side of the fence :)
 
I wasn't aware anyone actually used these voice control things. If they didn't mention an updated Siri in the iOS 8 patch notes i would have forgot it existed altogether
 
Siri is the worst. doesnt even give you a chance to think of what you wanna say while you are at it without being thrown off with gibberish

google now is more smooth in that area even tho i disabled both asap. no use for it as you end up spell checking and correcting stuff that takes longer than just typing it yourself

With Siri, you can hold down the home button until you're done speaking. Problem solved.

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Not sure why some people think Google Now is so much better. I find Siri to be far more intelligent. Case in point. I tried setting a reminder for tomorrow at 12:10am and Siri asked me if I meant Saturday or Sunday. Google Now just set a reminder for Sunday. Also, if I say "remind me".... And pause, Siri will ask me what I'd like to be reminded of. Google Now just opens up the reminders app.

Where Siri falls short is the stupid outages. Apple's new data centers need to go live ASAP which should fix those issues.
 
You can ask her/him to remind you to do something when u leave a place... Or when u get to a place.. But not the next time you talk to a person

It hardly ever works. And unless they slipped in a update somewhere since I last tried to use it, siri is far less useful than when I had a S3 on trial. Like "remind me net time I am NEAR a Wal-Mart to get X". Didn't work with Siri, worked with the S3.
 
It is never good when you feel the need to prove yourself against another competitor. When apple did the I'm a Mac and I'm a PC commercial they where smart enough to never use actual products, they where about the "cool" factor not features.

Not true in the slightest. They mentioned XP, Vista, Windows 7 and even Samsung.
 
Yeah, that's brilliant. Tie your new product into one of your buggiest hardware releases ever. Wonder what the RRoD looks like on a Windows phone.

The move to adapt cortana from halo as the Microsoft assistant is a brilliant one. Halo is an excellent franchise to appeals to the younger generation. Kind of like Beats ;)

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who said i hate the iPhone? i dont have a use for siri. thats hardly the main reason to buy an iPhone

That's how I feel. Siri sucks but I love my iPhone .
 
Cortana? i mean thats not trying to copy Siri or anything... Microsoft needs to come up with their own ideas instead of trying to copy apple... back in the 80's, the macintosh>Windows, then i mean now we have the Microsoft stores that look just like apple stores, and now this. wow. be original seriously!

Apple bought Siri mate. It was not their idea.

Cortana was created in 2001 in the original halo game, Siri launched in 2011.

Let me get this straight, you don't believe apple has borrowed ideas from android and windows in iOS 7/8 .... Wow just wow!!!
 
It is never good when you feel the need to prove yourself against another competitor. When apple did the I'm a Mac and I'm a PC commercial they where smart enough to never use actual products, they where about the "cool" factor not features.

Really? Have you ever watched an apple keynote or launch ? Apple takes a swipe at its competitors everytime. And they even have charts ;)

I laugh when people defend the I'm a mac , I'm a PC ads and cannot handle some banter back.
 
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