Microsoft Launches Office 2016 for Mac Preview, Available for Free to Mac Users

[davidlv]

It is not only Word. All MS fonts are duplicated in all of the .apps (eg /Applications/Microsoft Excel.app/Contents/Resources/Fonts). This is (mainly) why the apps are so big. Presumably in the final version will use the ones in /Library/Fonts/Microsoft rather than duplicating them.

I just confirmed that this does not happen running Office 2011 under Mavericks. In Mavericks, only the fonts that are enabled in Font Book show up in the Word ribbon font pull down menus. Under Yosemite, the Font Book application becomes almost useless in conjunction with the Offices apps (haven't tested under Yosemite with only Office 2011 installed).

 

[doynton]

I just confirmed that this does not happen running Office 2011 under Mavericks. In Mavericks, only the fonts that are enabled in Font Book show up in the Word ribbon font pull down menus. Under Yosemite, the Font Book application becomes almost useless in conjunction with the Offices apps (haven't tested under Yosemite with only Office 2011 installed).

2011 fonts are not stored in the application bundle in Yosemite. It is probably because this 2016 is preview - they keep the fonts within the app rather than using shared libraries to make it easier to uninstall cleanly.

 

[Daalseth]

It's brilliant. A bit rough around the edges on Office 2007, perfected with Office 2010 and completely brilliant in Office 2013.

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You can't be doing very much if you get by using that rubbish.

Actually I'm a writer. Several books on the shelf, an ongoing blog for the last seven years and recently I've been working on a series of sketches. that is when I'm not acting.

 

[valdikor]

2011 fonts are not stored in the application bundle in Yosemite. It is probably because this 2016 is preview - they keep the fonts within the app rather than using shared libraries to make it easier to uninstall cleanly.

I think they're making the apps completely self-contained. It's possible Office 2016 will be released on the Mac App Store when it's done. Even if that's not the case, making apps self-contained is a mostly desirable general trend, it helps security/sandboxing, it's clean, easy to deploy and uninstall (ever tried to do a proper clean uninstall of Office 2011? or Adobe apps?) and I understand Apple is pushing developers to do it this way.

 

[doynton]

I think they're making the apps completely self-contained. It's possible Office 2016 will be released on the Mac App Store when it's done. Even if that's not the case, making apps self-contained is a mostly desirable general trend, it helps security/sandboxing, it's clean, easy to deploy and uninstall (ever tried to do a proper clean uninstall of Office 2011? or Adobe apps?) and I understand Apple is pushing developers to do it this way.

Where are Apple pushing developers not to use shared libraries? Lets hope you are wrong. I certainly don't want to maintain fonts separately in every single app.

 

[davidlv]

Where are Apple pushing developers not to use shared libraries? Lets hope you are wrong. I certainly don't want to maintain fonts separately in every single app.

Well, we may have to, if we are running Yosemite. Under Mavericks, Office 2011 does not show all the fonts physically present on the boot disk, only those enabled in Font Book. Running under Yosemite, the same Office 2011 shows a huge amount of fonts in the pull down font menus, including fonts disabled in Font Book! Granted, in that test, I still had the Office 2016 Preview installed and I did not delete the font cache before testing. Plan to do both later (uninstall the Preview and delete the font cache).

 

[TheBigApple2006]

I haven't tested if it all functions properly or not but so far the Applescript libraries seem to contain the suite of commands. This bodes well for scripting and automation.

Could you please tell me how you access the Applescripts in Word 2016? I can't seem to find the usual "script" menu that was there in Word 2011.

Many thanks!

 

[Harvtron]

iCloud and Google Calendar

Still no support for iCloud or Google Calendars. This is disappointing to say the least. It's the only features I actually need with Outlook. Supported on both the Windows and iPad versions... what the hell is going on here?

 

[JD92]

Cool! How about ODF? Is it finally supported?

Unfortunately not, so it seems the Mac is still without a decent ODF suite.

I'm kind of surprised that ODF still isn't supporting considering the UK Government just started requiring all Government documents be made available as ODFs. Sure, it's only one organisation, but it's a pretty big one.

 

[Crazy Badger]

Really liking the new version, and the menus are very, very close to the Windows version. Just need Microsoft to pull out their finger with the OneDrive for Business OS X app and I'll be happy for another 2-3 years

 

[You are the One]

Looks ok, but both PP and Excel runs with 65-70% CPU constantly even with just a small doc loaded. Word is a bit better. GUI looks fine but I'll stick with Office 2011 until they have optimised it better.

 

[Crazy Badger]

Really liking the new version, and the menus are very, very close to the Windows version. Just need Microsoft to pull out their finger with the OneDrive for Business OS X app and I'll be happy for another 2-3 years

After another week I'm still pretty happy, as the functionality is pretty good. It needs some serious optimisation though , as it's a nightmare with large documents and is even slower than 2011 at times with terrible scrolling.

But I'm sure these will improve...

 

[Fireproof!]

New Problem:

Meeting requests / invites that are sent to me are coming across with a timezone showing of UTC Monrovia for some odd reason. Fortunately it converts to my LOCAL time correctly. See screenshot below.

I logged into Office365 and checked timezone and region settings and it's set to U.S. Central Time. I also checked the preferences in Office 2016 and it's set correctly as well.

And this ONLY seems to occur on meetings I'm invited to. Anything I create myself looks okay.

Anyone else seeing this????

 

[petvas]

New Problem:

Meeting requests / invites that are sent to me are coming across with a timezone showing of UTC Monrovia for some odd reason. Fortunately it converts to my LOCAL time correctly. See screenshot below.

I logged into Office365 and checked timezone and region settings and it's set to U.S. Central Time. I also checked the preferences in Office 2016 and it's set correctly as well.

And this ONLY seems to occur on meetings I'm invited to. Anything I create myself looks okay.

Anyone else seeing this????

I have a similar issue for appointments created by some iOS calendar apps.

 

[iansilv]

Is this a monthly subscription thing? OR will you be able to pay once and use it without an ongoing subscription?

 

[K1mer0]

Guys, still no iCloud sync contacts/calendar with latest update of outlook 15.9?

 

[petvas]

Guys, still no iCloud sync contacts/calendar with latest update of outlook 15.9?

Don't wait for it. Outlook is an Exchange client and I don't expect any kind of iCloud sync.

 

[Rafagon]

Excel can't handle Arabic

It's 2015 (2016 according to the name of the product) and Microsoft Excel still can't handle Arabic text correctly. What a shame. I'll be using Numbers for Mac for the foreseeable future.