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Microsoft Launches Three New Surface Pro 3 Ads Targeting the MacBook Air

it's hard to give credits to people who made ads about their tablets turning into flowers, dresses, and other crazy stuff. lame
 
jamesryanbell said:
I wasn't being literal. The point is that it doesn't run OSX, so it's inherently not useful to me personally. I have every right to state my opinion here, and I will continue to do so every single time I feel like it. Your post changes nothing.
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"This changes everything" So says Apple evry time something is released. Sorry, couldn't help myself there.

I did re-read your message and my response and I apologise, I came across as very harsh and missed the part where you said 'personally'. I think this was because I most recently saw a less constructive "Omg MS suckzzzz battery no Mac OSX" post, but I replied to yours first. Must have channelled some of my anger.
 
The surface pro 3 is too pricey. People see it as a tablet (which it is), not as a laptop (which it can certainly overtake a Macbook Air). And so compared to apple and other competitors out there its too pricey for a tablet.
 
Yoshi Yogurt said:
Surfaces are so nasty.

Maybe they should work on making a competent windows laptop, because Apple seems to be dominating the laptop department in terms of both light and heavy users. Everyone I know seems to be switching to mac...
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not according to there sales there not.
 
borcanm said:
The surface pro 3 is too pricey. People see it as a tablet (which it is), not as a laptop (which it can certainly overtake a Macbook Air). And so compared to apple and other competitors out there its too pricey for a tablet.
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'People' is very vague. I for one see it as both.
 
borcanm said:
The surface pro 3 is too pricey. People see it as a tablet (which it is), not as a laptop (which it can certainly overtake a Macbook Air). And so compared to apple and other competitors out there its too pricey for a tablet.
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I agree, I think its overpriced as well.
 
MozMan68 said:
I can't believe I just read through this whole thread...

Why did I? Because I'm probably one of the three people who responded in here that actually use an SP3 as well as Apple products.

1) They are NOT trying to convince MAC users to switch to SP3. They are trying to convince people who are ready to buy a new laptop to consider the SP3 versus the MAC. Apple is doing an incredible job switching people over to their ecosystem...of course, driven by iPhone and iPad sales. Not because the MB is the end all be all of laptops.

2) Yes...the SP3 DOES work on your lap. I use it with the type cover every day on my lap. Sitting at home in my chair ON MY LAP....in my bed ON MY LAP. And guess what, my lap doesn't catch on fire like it did with a traditional laptop.

3) It seems as though EVERY person who replied on here has a MB. How many of you bought it yourself because you are a student? Guess what, MS has the huge market share they have because of enterprise business. It won't happen to all of you, but if any of you expect to get a job someday with a large business, get ready for them to hand you a MS laptop. Believe me...if you had a choice, you would want an SP3 instead of some 7 lb. dell laptop.

4) Office on iPAD is NOT the same as full Office on the SP3. And it never will be because the iPad is not powerful enough. Again, Office is HUGE in the corporate world and if you expect to create content on a decent level, you will need full Office.

5) Yes...Windows 8 sucks in many ways. OSX is much more mature and smoother. But it isn't unusable or as "awful" as many on here claim. The biggest issue for me personally is that there are two OS's on the machine. I'm hoping Windows 9 is the first step in finally joing the two together. We'll see.

6) Viruses? What viruses? You people are living in the past. Windows is on a gajillion more devices than Apple, so yes, there are MORE viruses, but the percentage of viruses to machines is nearly identical...and I'm too lazy to find the link saying so...:p

7) Weight? I'm really confused as to what position you are holding an iPad air that would cause any less fatugue than holding an SP3.

8) Thank you for some of the folks on here at least admitting that if Apple came out with the SP3 it would be considered the greatest thing in the world. I'm extremely excited for the 5.5" iPhone....just so I can laugh at all the comments on here about how it is the greatest thing in the world (years after Samsung and Microsoft have shown that the smaller form factor is not enough).

9) Someone on here mentioned a really key point...the SP3 combined with OneNote is the greatest thing to happen to note taking and organization at both school and work. The SP3 really opens up the capabilities of OneNote. A program I never used until now and don't know how I ever lived without it. The pen integration is great. The ability to edit Office documents and share with others through OneNote is awesome.

10) Meh...10 points is enough. I love my Apple products and I love my SP3 and Lumia phone....oh...and to the cars and trucks analogy, how many people are buying pick-up trucks and driving them to the office every day? Wouldn't it be amazing if a pick-up truck became the number one selling vehicle in the United States? Oh wait......:p
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I thank you for not being militant about this, I *owned* a SP3, but found that there were not enough conditions I experienced where the device could do the job any better than my Air or iPad. I found that there were issues with it that I personally found deal breaking (mainly the text scaling, seriously MS, sort it out please). You are also very right about the whole proclamation of greatness if Apple released an alternative to the SP3, however, I honestly believe that if they were to release such a device then the overall quality of the product would likely be higher than that of the SP3 from MS. So whilst there would almost certainly be a fanboy response from the majority of people on the Apple forum because it is an Apple product, from an evaluating point of view, I would hope that a fusion device from Apple would be a well rounded and more complete package, given the track record that they have so far.
 
andrewhart said:
What's interesting is that they used the 13' instead of the similarly powered 11' Air. I assume they wanted the Air to look bigger then the Surface. Personally, I think the 11' Air with the i7 and 512GB flash is the ultimate portable computer..
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They are trying to show the massive bezel on the Air, looks like a bezel from 10yrs ago.

But actually, you are right. The bezel on the 11" Air looks even bigger, so maybe MS missed an opportunity there.

:apple:
 
My takeaway from the add: There is noticeable lagtime between the touch gestures and the actual gesture reaction on the screen. Albeit, a tablet with a full desktop OS is a huge benefit, and if it werent so expensive I would definitely buy one.

Im hoping Apple is creating an OSX tablet to compete :D
 
Jayomat said:
fishy or not, they do have some points going for them. If it wasn't for windows (OS) itself, I would may give the surface a shot.
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Same here. I'd be willing to take a closer look at the device if it ran OS X. Although I'd probably still want a real keyboard and trackpad. And "lapability" might still be an issue.
 
MR echo chamber sounding in full force. Posters here think windows pcs are cheap $300 machines selling to the hoi polloi exclusively at radio shack and walmart. And, they are slow and riddled with viruses. How could it be otherwise: other MR posters are reporting the same experience?

These adds are aimed at the back to school demo. I think they do an ok job, but do not do justice to the precision of the pen and usefulness--esp when paired with one note.

Apple cornered the high end of the laptop market 7-8 years ago when it paired intel hardware with unibody aluminum construction and a best in class keyboard experience. Then it dropped the air and cemented its lead.

But nothing lasts forever, The sp3 may not be your cup of tea, but windows ultra books are on the cusp of parity
 
Merackon said:
I thank you for not being militant about this, I *owned* a SP3, but found that there were not enough conditions I experienced where the device could do the job any better than my Air or iPad. I found that there were issues with it that I personally found deal breaking (mainly the text scaling, seriously MS, sort it out please). You are also very right about the whole proclamation of greatness if Apple released an alternative to the SP3, however, I honestly believe that if they were to release such a device then the overall quality of the product would likely be higher than that of the SP3 from MS. So whilst there would almost certainly be a fanboy response from the majority of people on the Apple forum because it is an Apple product, from an evaluating point of view, I would hope that a fusion device from Apple would be a well rounded and more complete package, given the track record that they have so far.
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Completely agree...but only in the sense that Apple would have the software there...MS missed on that one, but I knew that going in. Not enough of an issue for me to NOT get it.

But to be fair, the hardware is definitely up to Apple standards in my opinion. Haven't found a single flaw or item not designed with a purpose or to make it an incredible piece of hardware.

Hard to comparre since Apple does not have a touch version of their OS that would compete yet on a fully featured device.
 
Used a new surface at bb recently.

The keyboard and touchpad are lousy and the OS is convoluted and bloated. It tries to be a tablet and a laptop but fails at both. I would prefer an iPad or a MBA any day ...
 
rowspaxe said:
There is no lag on windows touch--try it some time
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Thank you...I think what people on here are referring to is the zoom shown in the videos...it is not a 1 for 1 action. No lag...it is just that starting on a certain part of a picture and zooming it does not mean your fingures will still be on those same spots on the zoomed in photo.

Looks like lag when you are watching it quickly...so watch again...zero lag.
 
Ummm, you can wrap it up with a pretty yellow ribbon, but a turd is still a turd. just with a yellow ribbon on it!

Big Softie just can't do hardware. It's blatantly obvious!
 
malexandria said:
I like some of the ideas in the Surface Pro, but the price point is ridiculous for that small screen size and I have the feeling it would eventually drive me crazy because I'd want to use it like a laptop and find that I can't because of the small form factor and hard drive. It's why I wouldn't get an MBA either.
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There are convertible laptops such as the upcoming Asus T300 Chi which provides you a traditional laptop with the ability to convert to a very thin tablet.
 
SgtPepper12 said:
Seriously, when I see those products next to each other all I keep thinking is that the MBA looks like the solution of the problems that the surface has. It seems like such a fiddly device, that kickstand, the keyboard, the pen.
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And the highlighted part is where your argument went wrong.
 
coolspot18 said:
Asus T300 Chi seems to do both well.
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There are a bunch of good convertibles out there at better prices, but none of them have all that the SP3 has (weight, keyboard/cover combo, pen). If some of those aren't as important and you want to lean more to the "laptop" side of things, than those are probably better than the SP3.
 
I hate Widows OS. I love the model. But really. An Air is MEANT to be an laptop. If people want touch screen buy an iOS device. People see the Surface as a tablet with PC capabilities. Not vice versa. :p
Wow the new surface is really pricy. Not surprised.
:apple:
 
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