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Microsoft Licenses Adobe Flash Lite for Mobile

Yes, but at least Adobe's software works.

nsbio said:
Adobe Reader is a crappy bloatware - it must be kept away from any devices, let alone the iPhone. The Reader is slow and its search function is ancient. Apple is right to be fighting this crap off.
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Adobe Reader opens files correctly. I get PDFs all the time that don't render properly in Preview. Most notably, anything having to do with land use/GIS, etc. I'm sorry if you don't like ESRI software, but the fact is that ALL state and county agencies use these products, and Apple's Preview does NOT work with them.

This is one of the major things holding me back from using an iPhone regularly, because I need web access to PDFs that can actually be viewed.

By the way, I'm a long term Apple user (last millenium), and a vocal supporter of Apple - so no trolling here.

HERE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE:
http://www.co.brown.wi.us/land_conservation/NutrientManagement_PDF_2007/Morrison/T21R21S25.pdf

It doesn't work in Preview for me, with the same result on all our machines with GIS generated PDF files like these. Adobe Reader works though.
 
fluidinclusion said:
HERE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE:
http://www.co.brown.wi.us/land_conservation/NutrientManagement_PDF_2007/Morrison/T21R21S25.pdf

It doesn't work in Preview for me, with the same result on all our machines with GIS generated PDF files like these. Adobe Reader works though.
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Seems to work for me.

I wonder if your rendering problems are an issue in PDFkit, or with the PDF itself. Perhaps Adobe is more tolerant of improper PDF code? (though, IE had that same feature, and the internet was a mess for years because of it, and it's difficult to find a web developer who will say, "Oh, IE? I love IE!")
 
it would be great to get flash on iphone and itouch.

but websites need to learn to economize bandwidth needs on it.

also... pdf viewing? Apple should be allowed to create their own viewers or proram to open it, why? adobe will use program to add mroe stuff to an iphone and im sure apple doesnt want that.
 
Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

It is interesting to see the windows moblie platform move this direction and I think we will see some form of Flash support in the iPhone soon. It will be great for those who really want Flash functionality on their iPhone.
 
typecase said:
As a consumer, I'd like the choice to have Flash on my iPhone. So many sites depend on it, it's a little ridiculous it's not supported, especially given the iPhones "whole internet" theme. I wish Jobs would cede a teeny bit more control. Apple's paternalism is getting a bit heavy recently. :(
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I agree. I would like the freedom to view a site as it was intended. For those who hate Flash, they could disable it or uninstall it. If the iPhone was originally conceived as a portable web browser (and that's what the iPT is) it should absolutely have Flash.

As for "Apple's paternalism is getting a bit heavy" - well, sometimes it works for us and sometimes it doesn't. The old one button mouse was a time I know it didn't work for me!
 
many websites use flash that I'd like to be able to visit. Lots of internet TV sites put their videos in flash format. Beats downloading entire seasons, converting them, and loading them onto the ipod. Streaming music too. Anyone use purevolume? I'm obsessed.
 
tYNS said:
Adobe is simply the new Symantec of Design/Multimedia Software.
Very sad that the company lost their way.

Flash is a cpu hog. I will purposely go to a flash based website on my laptop just to warm myself up while sitting on the couch.

I have a weird feeling that Apple is working on a web browser/technologies that have some newer and interesting technologies that will surpass flash... Just a feeling...
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Photoshop is still the best program I have every used so I'm not inclined to trash Adobe.

So many sites use flash that you must have very warm legs.

It would be wonderful if your "weird feeling" were true (are you sure it's not from the overheated legs? ;) )
 
Like it or not, if you don't have flash then you don't have the full internet experience.

( BTW - flash wont cripple your battery life - its only activated upon demand )

Apple should add flash instead of relying on half hearted work arounds such as what is happening for YouTube - which doesn't include the entire catalogue.
 
stevearm said:
Amazing how an article about Microsoft adding Flash to their smartphones gets the usual "well we don't want Flash anyway, MS is sh*t, blah blah" comments from the fanboys.

Flash is a huge missing feature on the iPhone. Even my N95 has flash.
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yup, and the article gets alot of negative votes. replace microsoft with apple and everyone is singing its praises.
 
There seems to be a bit of confusion in this thread between PDF rendering within a web browser and a standalone PDF/ebook reader. Personally, I have no use for Adobe Reader, which is indeed a bloated piece of...software. But I do very much want Apple to port Preview.app over to the touch/phone platform.
 
Konstanty said:
There seems to be a bit of confusion in this thread between PDF rendering within a web browser and a standalone PDF/ebook reader. Personally, I have no use for Adobe Reader, which is indeed a bloated piece of...software. But I do very much want Apple to port Preview.app over to the touch/phone platform.
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They have, both Mail and Safari on the iPhone open using Apple's PDF viewer.
 
pavelbure said:
yup, and the article gets alot of negative votes. replace microsoft with apple and everyone is singing its praises.
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Exactly, the second the word Microsoft appears, it's instantly rubbish. If Apple had included Flash Lite in 1.1.4 everyone would be thrilled.
 
fluidinclusion said:
Adobe Reader opens files correctly. I get PDFs all the time that don't render properly in Preview.
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Whenever I can, I use Preview in preference to Adobe Reader
or Acrobat. It's faster, has a more mac-like interface etc etc.
Preview does have some rendering bugs, though. E.g.:

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The one on the left is rendered correctly.
 
I have to laugh at the 'choice' crowd who wants Apple to open up the phone like an open cut in a sewer, yet insist that Apple to tie itself to a propitiatory format like flash in order to watch ads and porn.

If Apple caves to Adobe and goes with Flash instead of sticking to h.264 insistence, that'll be the end of any hope of innovation in mobile animation.

I thought innovation was what the open folks were all about.
 
stevearm said:
Exactly, the second the word Microsoft appears, it's instantly rubbish. If Apple had included Flash Lite in 1.1.4 everyone would be thrilled.
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I have complete faith that if Apple put Flash on the iPhone, it would have been nice. The iPhone is their pride, and they would not do anything bad really.

MS on the other hand, their mobile IE is a pile of crap and the idea of bloating it even more is just cringeworthy.

Its more than just blind fanboyism, MS will need more than just Flash to make their browser decent.
 
Fascinating. I had assumed — because of all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth surrounding the absence of flash on the iPhone — that windows mobile must have already had it.

Could this recent bit of news be further evidence that people don't actually use their windows mobile devices to surf the web very much? (Surely i would have heard similar complaints about Windows mobile being unusable without flash, right!?)
 
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