Yes, it is. Cede is to admit or yield to a point in an argument. To concede is to yield control of. So the correct usage in that sentence should be concede, not cede. Your 'free dictionary' is not complete.
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Yes, it is. Cede is to admit or yield to a point in an argument. To concede is to yield control of. So the correct usage in that sentence should be concede, not cede. Your 'free dictionary' is not complete.
ha..
not.gonna.happen. all of adobe's software is crappy bloatware and delivers much less than the horsepower it uses on the machine. atleast on mac os x. whatever the reason. im glad that flash hasnt come yet. don't want it to come either.
but that's just me.
I can totally understand why they decided on using their own PDF reader over the adobe one. I am guessing it is the same reason many people who use mac os use preview instead of the official adobe PDF viewer. In preview PDFs open almost instantly and the adobe PDF viewer gives you enough time to make a coffee before opening your PDF (okay I am exaggerating, but for the task involved the adobe PDF viewer does take far to long to load)
About Flash on the iPhone, such a feature is necessary but it needs to be carefully implemented , not many browsers can handle webpages with many flash objects well. I would imagine that a poorly implemented flash player on the iphone would just cause too many crashes. what would be good is if you could just isolate individual flash objects and view them one their own (basically the same thing safari does with quicktime files). A feature like that would be useful for playing flash games or watching flash videos. I am not to keen on having flash objects loading with the page, as most of them are adverts and if the flash object was something i was interested in I would like to isolate it form the rest of he page
About Flash on the iPhone, such a feature is necessary but it needs to be carefully implemented , not many browsers can handle webpages with many flash objects well. I would imagine that a poorly implemented flash player on the iphone would just cause too many crashes. what would be good is if you could just isolate individual flash objects and view them one their own (basically the same thing safari does with quicktime files). A feature like that would be useful for playing flash games or watching flash videos. I am not to keen on having flash objects loading with the page, as most of them are adverts and if the flash object was something i was interested in I would like to isolate it form the rest of he page
Flash Option
I think flash would be helpful for those times when you want to see a flash page/videos. Apple could add it as a selectable option like javascript "on/off" slider in settings.
This would give it to the ones that want it and allow the others to shut it off.
I would prefer that apple do their thing and right size the product for iPhone. Take what is there and if it doesn't meet iPhone needs have it changed.
EDIT: If apple can get Intel to right a processor for them (MBA), why not work with Adobe to do the same.
I think flash would be helpful for those times when you want to see a flash page/videos. Apple could add it as a selectable option like javascript "on/off" slider in settings.
This would give it to the ones that want it and allow the others to shut it off.
I would prefer that apple do their thing and right size the product for iPhone. Take what is there and if it doesn't meet iPhone needs have it changed.
EDIT: If apple can get Intel to right a processor for them (MBA), why not work with Adobe to do the same.
Yeah, and your battery goes dead faster, too.
Having used an N95 before switching to an iPhone, I speak from experience.
Adobe's products are so system hogs. Look at how much time adobe reader takes to start on a desktop OS or for that matter its any other product. In fact, I avoid using adobe reader as much as I can and rather use preview or safari native pdf reader for PDF files.
so this may sound naive, but if apple can have pdf renderer as a substitute for adobe's pdf, can't they develop flash substitute that could do most of the job.
so this may sound naive, but if apple can have pdf renderer as a substitute for adobe's pdf, can't they develop flash substitute that could do most of the job.
If that means using a different browser than Safari, then yeah, maybe (but probably not since Apple most likely won't greenlight any apps which interpret code). The SDK does not in any way make it possible to write a Flash plug-in for Safari.
PDF/FDF 1.7 is an ISO Standard
Why the hell would Apple adopt a 3rd party piece of software that they already have a native Cocoa version that supports the PDF/FDF 1.7 standard?
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/pdf/pdf_reference.html
PDF Reference, Sixth Edition, version 1.7
The document, ISO 32000, submitted to ISO for balloting is a reformatted version of the Adobe PDF 1.7 Reference. The ISO 32000 document delivered to ISO preserves the technical integrity of the Adobe PDF 1.7 Reference with content that is vendor neutral, more precise and conforming to ISO conventions. The submitted document represents a complete expression of the PDF standard.
Why the hell would Apple adopt a 3rd party piece of software that they already have a native Cocoa version that supports the PDF/FDF 1.7 standard?
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/pdf/pdf_reference.html
PDF Reference, Sixth Edition, version 1.7
The document, ISO 32000, submitted to ISO for balloting is a reformatted version of the Adobe PDF 1.7 Reference. The ISO 32000 document delivered to ISO preserves the technical integrity of the Adobe PDF 1.7 Reference with content that is vendor neutral, more precise and conforming to ISO conventions. The submitted document represents a complete expression of the PDF standard.
Yeah i have used the web browser on the N95 as well, Its not bad at all. They implemented tabs in the browser fairly well. It however is not comparable with safari on the iPhone.
In short if I needed to quickly check a film time and I had my iPhone handy I would probably use my iPhone to check. If an N95 was in my pocked i would go looking for the nearest computer.
If only Apple bought Macromedia before Adobe swallowed them up.
I hate Adobe almost as much as msft and for pretty much the same reasons.
Macromedia on the other hand had good UI sense and innovation.
I hate Adobe almost as much as msft and for pretty much the same reasons.
Macromedia on the other hand had good UI sense and innovation.
What?!!! So many sites of artists, graphic designers, photographers, and other creative people use Flash. I'm not sure how a program that is used so much and in so many different ways is pegged only "to watch ads and porn."
Flash is a design tool. Period. The way it's used depends on the web designer. The intro on my site is a VERY simple use of Flash and can be stopped in an instant. And I wish I could see it on an iPhone.
I'm on 10.4
This message is to all who replied to my original message.
I'm not sure exactly what software was used, but I think it was either ArcMap or one of the other ESRI GIS software packages. This is a common type of PDF made by almost all county level planning offices for land use, parcel maps, etc.
On 10.4, this doesn't work. It didn't work in 10.3 either. I don't have Leopard yet, but our university will switch this summer. Hopefully it will work if 10.5 has a new version of Preview - I don't know.
By the way, I've seen this problem with other pdf files too, including journal articles, etc. I tried to attach another example, but the file size is too big.
Someone else mentioned that if they resave the file in Preview it opens fine. That might be true, but it doesn't solve the problem that the tens of thousands of files out there are unreadable by most or all Preview versions.
This message is to all who replied to my original message.
I'm not sure exactly what software was used, but I think it was either ArcMap or one of the other ESRI GIS software packages. This is a common type of PDF made by almost all county level planning offices for land use, parcel maps, etc.
On 10.4, this doesn't work. It didn't work in 10.3 either. I don't have Leopard yet, but our university will switch this summer. Hopefully it will work if 10.5 has a new version of Preview - I don't know.
By the way, I've seen this problem with other pdf files too, including journal articles, etc. I tried to attach another example, but the file size is too big.
Someone else mentioned that if they resave the file in Preview it opens fine. That might be true, but it doesn't solve the problem that the tens of thousands of files out there are unreadable by most or all Preview versions.
Off-topic grammar wars ...
Hmm. Apple's dictionary must likewise be errant in your eyes:
Underlining mine. That seems to convey exactly what you say cede doesn't mean.
Note that the note at Relinquish discusses the various nuances of the 101 synonyms for "relinquish", although it doesn't specifically go into "cede" vs "concede".
IMHO, "concede" is more properly used as an admission, not as a physical hand-over of control, whereas "cede" is more properly used as a physical hand-over rather than an admission of a point of argument. This is reflected in the order of definitions in most dictionaries ("concede" being defined first as an admission of a point, then as a surrender of territory). But the two are gray enough that they nearly completely overlap.
Hmm. Apple's dictionary must likewise be errant in your eyes:
Underlining mine. That seems to convey exactly what you say cede doesn't mean.
Note that the note at Relinquish discusses the various nuances of the 101 synonyms for "relinquish", although it doesn't specifically go into "cede" vs "concede".
IMHO, "concede" is more properly used as an admission, not as a physical hand-over of control, whereas "cede" is more properly used as a physical hand-over rather than an admission of a point of argument. This is reflected in the order of definitions in most dictionaries ("concede" being defined first as an admission of a point, then as a surrender of territory). But the two are gray enough that they nearly completely overlap.
You are correct. I've also come across PDFs which don't work in Preview in 10.4, and, similarly, they came from government land use surveys. 10.5 hasn't had any problems, so they either fixed the bug or relaxed their interpretation of the standard. Can't say if the fault is Apple's or the PDF writer used by that software, but given that it's rather unique to a small set of software in a small niche, I'm leaning towards a library having been written to the application (Adobe Reader) instead of the spec (PDF).
You see similar issues (less now than a decade ago) with web pages which had been written and debugged in Internet Explorer instead of written against the HTML spec (and then tweaked to make sure they worked with Microsoft's particular set of rendering bugs).
Far too many ex-windows fanboys on here accusing us of being fanboys lately, I preferred the olden days when only the true believers of the Apple faith perused this forum.
I know, I know, it's hard to admit when your wrong sometimes, but please dont take it out on us, it's not our fault you wasted n years working with an inferior OS, we welcome you...
Welcome to the elite.
Now zip it.
I know, I know, it's hard to admit when your wrong sometimes, but please dont take it out on us, it's not our fault you wasted n years working with an inferior OS, we welcome you...
Welcome to the elite.
Now zip it.
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its amazing how non iPhone users cry that that it lacks flash but iPhone owners as whole don't miss it. I know I don't.
stevearm said:
its amazing how non iPhone users cry that that it lacks flash but iPhone owners as whole don't miss it. I know I don't.
I will have an iPhone (or iPT) by mid summer and I would like it to surf Safari and read websites like my PB does. Not an extreme position no matter how much you try and make us feel life it is. I'm happy for you that you don't miss it. But many people do. Have empathy for those who's tech needs differ from yours.