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Microsoft 'Looking At' Bringing Office to Apple's Mac App Store
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Just not worth it
Would be better if they spent their time fixing it and developing sensible features that are desperately needed - such as reading & writing to PSTs.
It's bug-ridden and causes grief:
http://www.officeformac.com/ms/ProductForums/Outlook/646
It's grossly overpriced and just not worth the money - 250% more expensive than the equivalent Office 2008. Office 2008 works just fine, so what's the point in giving my hard-earned cash to Microsoft?
Just like everything Microsoft do these days it's late and they've missed the party - like turned up at the wrong house.
Would be better if they spent their time fixing it and developing sensible features that are desperately needed - such as reading & writing to PSTs.
It's bug-ridden and causes grief:
http://www.officeformac.com/ms/ProductForums/Outlook/646
It's grossly overpriced and just not worth the money - 250% more expensive than the equivalent Office 2008. Office 2008 works just fine, so what's the point in giving my hard-earned cash to Microsoft?
Just like everything Microsoft do these days it's late and they've missed the party - like turned up at the wrong house.
Thank You !
As for being a MS Lover or a Mac Lover.... I just love good tech.
Enough with the fanboys full of hate.
Let the best software win.
Right now Microsoft really has its thumb in Apple's butt when it comes to Office software.
But unless you actually *need* the other ~50% of functionality, 35-50% for 0% of the price is still a good bargain. Imagine if Apple offered a "MacBook Free" that had 50% of the features for 0% of the price - how many people do you think would jump at it?
I'm not convinced that many people *do* actually need all the functionality of Office (not least because MS has said that they introduced the ribbon in part because people *didn't* find out about all of the functionality).
And Apple with their 30% cut.
I can't believe people are complaining about the possibility of one of the biggest selling software packages being added to the App Store.
Do they not want the App Store to be a success?
Actually, Excel is single-handedly one of the best applications out there. Numbers from Apple doesn't even remotely come close.
If you want to do Financial modelling, valuation, create bell curves, histograms etc. there is almost no alternative to Excel. SPSS is great too, but for slightly different purposes.
If you want to do Financial modelling, valuation, create bell curves, histograms etc. there is almost no alternative to Excel. SPSS is great too, but for slightly different purposes.
I think the big one is EXCEL
Less is not more with this program.
In fact I was actually one of the suckers who bought an iPad on day one thinking "Numbers" would be good for spreadsheets on the fly.
I returned it within a week. ( no joke )
I was so eager to try an alternative that I didn't realize how behind everyone is.
Bringing MS Office to IOS is a good thing for everyone.
Explain why its bad?!!
We must have been typing the same thi g at the same time.
Kinda.
Wierd !
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Capability. Employer clients I work with want to see documents open correctly in microsoft Office. The OO conversions are not 100% and do not do the job well enough.
I think this would be a great move, if and only if they offer the applications separate. I only need Outlook - why do I have to buy the most expensive package to get only this one application?
At the end of the day I pity the fools who go around cheerleading one giant corporation over another giant corporation. It's nice for Apple's or Microsoft's profits to have these blind idiots buying anything they send to market, and declaring it the best product ever each time. But these people are not only wasting good money, but they are missing out on the chance to experience potentially better products, services and tools to improve their workflow.
I use iWork, Office 2011, Office 2010 on Windows and even OpenOffice to invoice clients using tools I built for that software - back when I was using Ubuntu as my primary OS. All three products have their own unique strengths and weaknesses.
I would say without a shadow of doubt the Microsoft Office system is the most advanced, fully-baked Office suite on the market. It's dominant position in the marketplace makes it hard to ignore, especially if you have to swap files with many other people frequently. iWork is great for those who want something more simplified, quick and easy to use. My Dad (a complete technophobe) loves iWork because even he can create great looking letters and invoices for clients using the easy-to-edit templates. He could never get his head around Microsoft Office. OpenOffice has it's place too for those who cannot justify paying for either iWork or MS Office. It's probably good enough for the vast majority of people in terms of functionality, but it's UI is a bit of a mess to say the least - a problem that lets a lot of open source software down.
I agree - as long as people that say iWork is good enough for them are not labeled as MS Haters (people who say 'who needs MS XYZ' should)
I think MS Office is by far the most feature rich office application. That said, many users don't need all those features - for many iWorks is good enough (and comes at a smaller price). Everybody should select whatever product fits their needs. Both iWork and the new MS Office look pretty. I personally think Open Office and NeoOffice are, let's the, visually different - but for people who want everything free, this might be good enough.
MS Office 2011 - the most expensive but feature rich, mostly enterprise oriented
iWork - very affordable, less features than MS, mostly home user and (small) business oriented
OpenOffice - free and not that nicely integrated in the OS look&feel
--> select what fits your needs and stop mocking people that are different in their needs than you are.
aren't we forgetting Seadragon:
https://www.macrumors.com/2008/12/15/microsoft-offers-seadragon-app-for-iphone/
?
End of the line
That may be, but my then-current Office 2004 project (1100 page Word document) crashed on Office 2008 over the MS Palatino Linotype language font. Pages had no trouble reading the .doc file that stymied 2008. I haven't used Word since.
Even the iPad Pages can handle it (though Search is slow as molasses!).
That may be, but my then-current Office 2004 project (1100 page Word document) crashed on Office 2008 over the MS Palatino Linotype language font. Pages had no trouble reading the .doc file that stymied 2008. I haven't used Word since.
Even the iPad Pages can handle it (though Search is slow as molasses!).
Like someone else said... how can this be a bad thing. As much as I don't care for most Microsoft applications, Office is a good set of Apps and very popular. So why not? Makes sense and all will benefit.
This has been a lame week for rumors... I hope next week is more exciting as we near an iPad 2 announcement. I'm also hoping for some good Mac news. It's time to really shake up the Mac line and set the bar once again.
This has been a lame week for rumors... I hope next week is more exciting as we near an iPad 2 announcement. I'm also hoping for some good Mac news. It's time to really shake up the Mac line and set the bar once again.
Maybe, but Microsoft is used to getting MUCH better deals than that. Let's put it as simple as it is: Microsoft dictates its terms, it doesn't ask for them. And you can rest assured that if Microsoft was willing to bring Office to the AppStore, Apple would give them better conditions than the standard 70/30 split. They would have to do the same for Adobe for the same reasons: Without Adobe and Microsoft products, the Mac platform wouldn't even be around anymore, and despite their big mouths, the folks at Apple know that all too well.
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Sell the apps separately please! I'll definitely take word and maybe excel, but I don't want to pay for the others when I won't use 'em.
Sell the apps separately please! I'll definitely take word and maybe excel, but I don't want to pay for the others when I won't use 'em.
What makes you so sure of the better deal for MS or Adobe - don't think Apple cares that much if the are in the MAS or not, those or products that sell well no matter if in the MAS or not. Both MS and Apple could be labeled stubborn dictators ...
Would MS have to rewrite the installation procedure to not throw stuff all over the system? Would they have to change the update mechanism, which is very unique as e.g. it launches the updater application downloads the update and than waits for the user to close the updater application so that it can install the update? Unsupervised update (after clicking 'update' would be nice)
Did you even read the article? This is about Office in the Mac App Store... not the iOS App Store.
Every significant government and military in the world, almost every significant educational institute in the world, the vast majority of significant business organizations in the world...
Right, because every security- or privacy-conscious organization has no problem giving their data to Google. Oh, wait.
Well said. There are any number of reasons why someone might want to use a genuine version of MS Office over OO. Just because most of the people commenting in this thread only use MS Word to write love letters or homework, doesn't mean a lot of us don't use it for proper work where compatibility and functionality are key.
Plus the ribbon toolbar is actually pretty good (although I see that might be considered flamebait in this forum)...
I find MS Office to be a huge use, which means I already have it, of course.
But MS REALLY needs to get an iPad version out. Even if lite on features, if it offered 100% format compatibility with their desktop apps, that would be huge. Using Pages Keynote on an iPad, and then expecting to share that with users on a PC is impossible.
But MS REALLY needs to get an iPad version out. Even if lite on features, if it offered 100% format compatibility with their desktop apps, that would be huge. Using Pages Keynote on an iPad, and then expecting to share that with users on a PC is impossible.
