If he doesn't realize, then maybe he doesn't need the extra bloat?
Some people just need to get work done, without the extra 10 years of useless features that should be removed.
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If he doesn't realize, then maybe he doesn't need the extra bloat?
Some people just need to get work done, without the extra 10 years of useless features that should be removed.
the reason being is many do not even look at your resume (seriously). What they do is load the word doc into a system - use VBA or some .NET application to parse it into a database; and then run queries to filter out matching keywords. Why do you think so many companies no longer take paper resumes nor emailed ones. They tell you to go to their website and fill out an online app. Those who take word document resumes are just doing you a favor by allowing you to send what you already have and uploading it for you. And because they are using MS products to do it - then it can already open word easier.
I know, I visited a few temp agencies and they told me to email my word resume so they can get it into their database.
Some will just run VBA code against a series of word files and only list those that have their matching keywords in them. that is why you need to write your resume specifically for the job you are applying for.
I know I got calls from recruiters for positions that were not even in my background, because I used a certain piece of technology for another reason. It just came out on a keyword match and they assumed I had done xxxxx.
I know, I used to do that through Excel VBA to extract data from 100's of excel spreadsheets to create charts for management on one excel spreadsheet and then use VBA to email the final one to an Outlook distribution list. Then compiled smaller spreadsheets to create others to email to other distribution groups. took a while to get it all 100% perfect, but they had 1 person spending a month doing it manually before. the automated process only took an hour to run.
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When I purchased my Office 2011 from the Microsoft Web site it sent me to to digital river. I find it interesting that people think they distribute software and process payments for free..
And Apple with their 30% cut.
I can't believe people are complaining about the possibility of one of the biggest selling software packages being added to the App Store.
Do they not want the App Store to be a success?
Well Apple already stocks the product in their retail stores and online. Apple will even preinstall office on your new Mac, so they've probably got some deal in place with Microsoft already.
It's certainly not about the 30%. As many others have mentioned, it's probably comparable to the amount paid through normal physical distribution. For Microsoft, it is, and has always been, about lock-in and market share.
I think this is the million dollar question with respect to Microsoft moving Office into the MAS. They'd have to do a huge rework of the installation process and basically move everything into a single bundle to comply with the rules. It's a lot of work for a current version. Maybe next version we will see appear in the MAS, but I still doubt it because of some of the restrictions to getting into the MAS.
Me too! I've been doing the 2011 trial and I really like the new version of word a lot. Especially the full screen mode. I wish they would sell world ala' carte on the Mac like they do Winblows.
Knowing Microsoft though, if they did it would probably not be worth it. They sell Word by itself for $139 on Windows with no upgrade pricing unless you buy the suite. On the same page of their online store they suggest for $149 the student and teacher edition with Word, Excel, Power Point, and One Note. I guess they do this to force a large user install base in there bs sales figures.
The installation process may be the key issue. But they could just have it download and then launch it's own script to load everything like it does now. And then a second piece of code to put it on your dock.
As far as Apple's restrictive rules. I have a feeling that Apple would probably quietly and secretly bend the rules for a large company like Microsoft - if they were getting a large enough cut and they felt it would easily boost more mac sales. Most reps in the apple store are pushing MS office more then they push iWork. More than once I have seen them suggest Office and not mention iWork until someone asks about it. And then I hear them say - "well iWork is good, just not as powerful". remember Apple is not about selling volume; they product sells itself. Apple is about selling convient solutions that matches your need. More than once, I had them ask me why I need a machine with xxx specs. they suggested a lower model (which was good for my wife), but they took the time to list to my needs and why. Most other PC sellers will automatically tell you and try to sell you the top of the line product. Been there done that - and mostly because they work on commission. Something Apple reps do not work on, so they are free to sell what the end user truely needs and makes the most sense.
Comparing the Pages Bar and the Word Ribbon. I personally think the Ribbon isn't rocket science and it beats all those floating windows. The Pages Bar is a waste of space.
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I work as a consultant for some small/medium businesses and this is incredibly uninformed opinion. Some jobs completely revolve around spreadsheets and their features. If somebody can be even only 10% (conservative guess-timate) more effective with the advanced features that Excel offers, it more than pays itself off in an incredibly short amount of time. Not to mention time lost by converting and conversion hiccups to formats that recipients expect cost even more employee time. All this time adds up and is completely lost money to the employer.
I'm no fan of MS Office myself, and I use alternatives when they are appropriate, but ignoring the bigger picture is a terrible mistake.
I'd say the biggest problem (for me) is that pptx files show up incorrectly on my OpenOffice and NeoOffice apps. For most things, however, NeoOffice is what I use.
they should only hope that they can get these products in the app store. Excel and outlook have no peer in their respective categories and would be welcomed additions to the mac app store lineup. enough with the comments that there are other apps on the same level as excel, when my computer went down two years ago and i had to try and operate using my wife's mac to do my business i couldn't even do basic cost accounting from what i had since no other program i know can use pivot tables.
It became the standard because of 2 things. Win95 becoming a standard, and because it was the best. It replaced Lotus 123 and Wordperfect many generations ago. For awhile, Wordperfect was superior to Word, and there was much complaining. But Excel destroyed 123 and anything since. Esp once they finally made it 3D. (which was 8 years after we started asking for it
)You haven't seen any power users. That's just ridiculous, "a few formulas", Christ. Here's one quick test. Do you know what I meant in my above sentence by "3D"? How about UDF? If not, you don't even know what a power user is.
You people really don't know what Best Buy pays for a box of software, do you? The main difference between Apple's iStores and the entire retail industry is that Apple has published their markup of 30% (of gross). And now, all the people who don't even know what "markup" is are crying.
At least go to Wikipedia or something.Office (Word) is about as archaic at Adobe Flash. Worked for a while, but it's time to move on.
It should not matter in 2011 what software you prefer to use. Schools and Business NEED to abandon their 1994 attitude, and start realizing that documents don't explode if it's not in a word 2007 format, or whatever the exact requirement is this minute.
It should not matter in 2011 what software you prefer to use. Schools and Business NEED to abandon their 1994 attitude, and start realizing that documents don't explode if it's not in a word 2007 format, or whatever the exact requirement is this minute.
It became the standard because of 2 things. Win95 becoming a standard, and because it was the best. It replaced Lotus 123 and Wordperfect many generations ago. For awhile, Wordperfect was superior to Word, and there was much complaining. But Excel destroyed 123 and anything since. Esp once they finally made it 3D. (which was 8 years after we started asking for it
You haven't seen any power users. That's just ridiculous, "a few formulas", Christ. Here's one quick test. Do you know what I meant in my above sentence by "3D"? How about UDF? If not, you don't even know what a power user is.
This is the exact kind of infantile attitude that needs to go. Anything that needs to be done, can be done with either application. The only things that can't be done, are in house formulas written in excel, for excel.
Also, the only people who ever make statements like yours are those with no working knowledge of Numbers. You're the type that's looked at it, clicked on a few drop down menus, and decided it can't do anything.
Sorry, but you're wrong.
outlook separately
If they sell Outlook separately I would upgrade from Entourage 2008. Office 2008 Home & Student Edition included an email app, why doesn't the 2011 edition.
If they sell Outlook separately I would upgrade from Entourage 2008. Office 2008 Home & Student Edition included an email app, why doesn't the 2011 edition.
Well, speaking as some one who does, because Word seems to be universal (and seems to b what employers ask for), because I edited it on word (and I do not see an option to save it as a PDF), it simply didn't occur to me (though if there is a free way to easily save it as a PDF that makes a lot of sense cause it views the same no matter what computer), but now I am curious, how do you save a Word document as PDF (My version of Word does not seem to have that option)?
If I have to pay Adobe just to have a PDF editor, well, because I'm on a tight budget (hence the job search) and I already have Word that I can send resumes in that format (or put it on webpage format).
Edit: Nevermind, figured it out. But now I know
. And I agree PDF is a much better format (if the employer doesn't ask for an actual Word file).
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Forget OneNote and Publisher. Access is probably the most sorely missed office application and the one that won't get ported. Compared with Word and Excel, it has relatively few users and is inextricably linked into the Windows subsystem. Porting it would mean taking a decent chunk of Windows and making it work within Mac OS X. It would simply not pay its way for MS to do so, unfortunately.
Sounds exactly like how Microsoft (or Adobe) would do it. Which is why it would likely never make it into the MAS that way.
To put it another way, Apple knows it needs to sell Office and Adobe products in it's stores because they are the most widespread products, and Apple is willing to play ball according to some traditional retail rules (if you don't like what's in the package, don't sell it at your store). But the MAS represents a shift from traditional retail and even some online retail, so I highly doubt that Microsoft could half-a** it, and get accepted.
If they are going with this, then I'm sure they will skip the traditional installation process and sell each program separately or collectively for a lower price.
I just wish all those companies would get over themselves and offer their apps in the store, I find this kind of distribution the most helpful, whether it's free or for sale only. Most programs I use aren't offered at all.
I just wish all those companies would get over themselves and offer their apps in the store, I find this kind of distribution the most helpful, whether it's free or for sale only. Most programs I use aren't offered at all.
I have doubts that Microsoft would release Office for iPad. It's just one of the really exclusive apps for its WP7 phones so I don't think they'd just give that away. The compatibility between Office for Windows/Mac and WP7 Office is incredible. I made a very complex presentation with almost a hundred animations throughout, and it played back on my WP7 flawlessly (for free) as it did on my PC.
Opened it in Keynote (for 9.99) on my iPad, 4/5 of the animations didn't work, half the images didn't load, and the font got screwed up despite it being one of the most generic fonts out there. Maybe Apple has a thing or two to learn about obeying standards. Not just for Keynote, but for the web too perhaps.
Opened it in Keynote (for 9.99) on my iPad, 4/5 of the animations didn't work, half the images didn't load, and the font got screwed up despite it being one of the most generic fonts out there. Maybe Apple has a thing or two to learn about obeying standards. Not just for Keynote, but for the web too perhaps.