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I know this is kind of strange but if apple are porting I tuines over to windows then isnt this more of a gamble on Microsofts part they have to :

1 make there music store do dang doo da much better
2 make it avalible to the world not just the usa n
3 if MS finaly do make a product that dosnt crash or burn everytime you stick somthing in it then it might be a good product for a change ..
4 apple could always start selling more i life stuff to windows users is say sell because its a privlige to own mac software were as owning windows software is more of a night mare..

5 so whose copied who whos had a mulit audio player softwre thing first windows or mac..

6 dose anyone really care what i am saying because i dont think i do
7 Mac this windows that for once cant we all just get along ...

AND I OWN BOTH MAC AND PCS BOTH WITH THE LATEST VERSIONS OF BOTH OPERATING SYSTEMS AND I FIND JAG RUNS MUCH MUCH BETTER THAN XP.. BUT WINDOWS DOSE MORE THATSALL... FOLKS
 
Originally posted by Sabenth
1 make there music store do dang doo da much better

from what we've seen, M$'s music store is already crap.

2 make it avalible to the world not just the usa n

There are as many hackers in asia, if not more.
especially china.
if M$ can't even make their music store secure enough in US, the record company won't allow them to go international.

3 if MS finaly do make a product that dosnt crash or burn everytime you stick somthing in it then it might be a good product for a change ..

yeah... but what was the last time this happened? ;)

4 apple could always start selling more i life stuff to windows users is say sell because its a privlige to own mac software were as owning windows software is more of a night mare..

i... don't know about that.. :)
 
Re: Enough already

Originally posted by delton05
I'm sick of Mac users claiming that Apple are THE creative ones ... and that MS has never had an original idea ... and that everyone else copies Apple's immense genius.

so let's see a list of Microsoft's greatest innovations then...
 
You just know any Music Service Micrsoft releases will be clunky, excessively difficult, and clogged with obnoxious advertising. I'd love to see go down in a dazzling flourish of brightly coloured flame.
 
Originally posted by delton05
Why would MS' subscription based service fail, if during the first month someone joins, they can get unlimited downloads!!

One month would be all I needed to get every song I could think of ... How much would that cost with Apple's service?

The downloads are in Windows Media and are subject to DRM restrictions. This means that they will expire and not play back at all when your subscription ends. Only players that are Windows Media-enabled and have the firmware update to support the "on the go" version will play back these things at all.

If you want downloads that are more permanent, you would get them in a burnable Windows Media format for an extra $.75 to $.99/song. Also note that unlike the iTunes Music Service, currently not all the songs available to listen to are available to download. This means a popular song cannot be purchased. Another thing is you will lose the metadata on the file and MUST waste the extra step of re-encoding the file and tagging it again.

It is not "really easy" to circumvent. Apple's FairPlay is basically digitally watermarked with the account e-mail, but Microsoft's DRM is far more powerful. Circumvention involves having to patch things on the OS level. If Palladium finishes, the file will also be locked based on your exact output hardware also. The only circumvention would then to pipe the data out in analog and back in through a digitizer (decoding, D->A conversion, A->D conversion, and then encoding) which would reduce the quality exhorbitantly. Depending on how restrictive the format you encode to, the file would be watermarked and restricted to only play back on a certain DRM-enabled hardware that you are registered as owning.

Microsoft is not a stupid company. Like Apple, if they find out that their restricted music file format becomes an avenue for piracy, they will come down hard.

BTW, you don't have to wait for Microsoft to launch their own. You can subscribe to such services right now if you have a Windows machine. The only restriction is that there is no way currently the DRM allows you to download the music file onto your portable player. No matter, because you think that circumventing Windows Media Player DRM is "really easy" so you obviously think you have an acceptable, automated way of turning your subscription into downloads.

Take care,

terry
 
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