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Microsoft Objects to Apple's 'App Store' Trademark Application
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I just love your condescending posts towards me. First you attack me by questioning my maturity then you say that I know nothing about you but you know that I know nothing about trademark law? Why don't you stop making personal attacks towards me and others. Now I understand why I had been getting PM's from other members about you. Well no worries, this will be my last post towards you as you're always personally attacking me. Don't bother responding because you'll be on Ignore and I won't see your posts.
Thanks. It's a lot easier to put me on ignore vs face the truth when it's presented to you. You'll be a lot happier if you ignore anyone who opposes your viewpoint.
If you think raising the issue of your maturity because you name call is an attack then so be it.
As for others that PM you or anyone else about me - who cares? LOL Again it shows your maturity (or lack there of). What anonymous and seemingly cowardly people who gossip behind people's backs matter little to me. And it certainly won't alter my opinions or posts on here...
Best of luck there...
Nah, my logic isn't off but you should take a look at what you wrote and then you'll easily have the answer to your own question. My question to you is why didn't Microsoft cry foul long before the App Store had any success? In fact, Apple announced the App Store weeks before it went into business so Microsoft had a chance to say something then, they didn't. Why?? Again, if Apple's App Store wouldn't have had any success MS would've kept their mouths closed. It's all about jealousy.
Haha, I sure hope it doesn't, 'cause I love my macbook pro more than chocolate. And I love chocolate.
Wow. Missed the point entirely. Not that you're seeing my response. But others will.. so it's ok...
Microsoft isn't objecting to Apple using The App Store. They are objecting to Apple TRADEMARKING the term.
Why would Microsoft complain about Apple calling their store the App Store? They are "fighting" to say that Apple and EVERYONE should be able to use the App Store.
It's not about jealousy at all. It's about fair use.
Well, take a look at the "Task Manager" in Windows. It has been referring to these "programs" as "applications". This would be like Microsoft trademarking "Operating System" instead of "Windows". If Apple wants to call their apps something like "bananas" and make a "Banana Store", I don't think anyone would object.
Haha, I heard Microsoft plan to sue Apple again and name their store the Microsoft Apple App Store and their next OS Microsoft Windows Snow Leopard OS X. That's what's it's all about.
Exactly, Apple can call their store whatever, as long as they don't infringe someone else's trademark. The issue here is not what they do call the store, it is trying to trademark the term.
And that's WHY we are saying they SHOULD trademark it.
NO ONE used it before, now that Apple made it popular it should be "Fair use"- - - No.
That's why things get Patents and Copyright. Believe it or not but Microsoft seems like the only loser here. Instead of fighting with Apple they should be caring about getting Copy and Paste to it's customers.
I really don't understand why some of you are missing this point. Lulz this is so funny.
They won't listen to us. We are Fandroids, Microsoft employees, etc etc etc. We have no idea what we are talking about.
So it's not granted, it's now in the opposition phase of the grant approval
You're correct, only time will tell right?
Edit : This is a pretty cool debate, Regardless of what happens The App Store will always refer to Apple's store. I guarantee it.
Newsflash: People used the phrase Apps before Apple.
Newsflash: Apple took several years to get Cut/Copy/Paste into their phones
Newsflash: Microsoft already announced the next update will have Copy/Paste
But go ahead and rewrite history and current events...
This is about trademarks, and in trademarks, there are rules about descriptive terms and generic terms. Sorry App Store doesn't respect those rules, maybe Apple should have thought about that before naming their App Store... well.. App Store.
I bet that indian is just as pissed he can't name his convenience store "Convenience Store" and trademark the name.
Indeed. I do not fault Apple. If this went uncontested or even now that it has - and they win - it's a good win/trademark to own.
But they know, as does anyone who reads anything about trademark law, that it is so incredibly "nebulous" of a trademark application in the first place.
Again - for Apple to try is GREAT, interesting and bold. But that doesn't mean it's legit. And that's what the petition process is all about.
I agree with Apple on principal. They developed a recognizable brand and product, a name for which has never been used by anyone. Now, with it's market presence, others want to capitalize on the enormous capital Apple has invested in the brand. It is a short-cut to greater success for their own products.
I like Apple, because, in their phone and computers I see a top product. Similarly I like Microsoft for their XBox 360. They have THE best (IMO) game system, in particular because of its "Live" integration and "Marketplace". Two other generic terms that they have developed and expended massive capital on. They should be equally protected. But hey, "Live" has always referred, in the world of media, radio, tv and streaming to the same "immediacy" of broadcast/connection. Yet, even that word is protected by Microsoft. But I think it is fair, because they coined it's use, relative to gaming.
The box store and the container store are active trademarks for stores but again I don't think these things should be but they are
Yet again it needs to be pointed out MS does not own a trade market on Windows.
The own trademarkets on "Microsoft Windows", "Windows XP", "Windows Vista", "Windows 7", Windows Phone 7"
I put quotes over the entire trade mark but noticed the bold words. Those are words other than Windows in each of the trademarks. With out those extra bolded worlds it is not a trademark volition.
Apple could trade market "The App Store" but they want App Store because they can stop anyone from using that generic and good description of it and "The App Store" would only be in volition if they used the name "The App Store"
Now if you use Windows in MS font then yes that is a breaking the trade market but it requires a lot more than just the word Windows.
1. How many companies sold Apps through a mobile device and called their store "App Store"?
2. Apple took several years, correct. But Microsoft currently doesn't have it so this point is irrelevant.
3. The next update isn't present therefore this is also invalid.
Like I said we will see. Lol
Actually, Microsoft complained about it in July last year. Might want to read the article before you comment on it.
Yes - it's easy to agree with someone when you ignore other people's opinions and oh yes, more importantly. Facts.
#1 is irrelevant to the petition
#2 huh? how convenient for you. It's entirely relevant.
#3 see #2.
No point in arguing with you. You and HLDan can enjoy each other's company there.
I understand that. I said that because if everything becomes fair use what's the use for trademarks, patents and copyrights?
That's my point. Apple didn't invent the word but they are the ones who market their store as "The App Store" - It shouldn't be fair use because no one ever marketed their app stores as just "App Stores".