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So instead of people willingly choosing their band over the Watch, they're trying to coerce consumers by buying the Watches off the market? What is this logic..?
 
why would anyone do that. there r bands that cost nearly as much as the MS thing (which name i have already forgotten by the time i scrolled down the page btw)
 
I might consider it if they would to do a 1:1 trade in with any Apple Watch. I'm personally okay with the Band (I tested the Band first gen). It was not bad, but it was very awkward to wear.

Yes I had herd the same thing about the band it was very awkward to wear. Some even reporting uncomfortable. On the other hand I find my Apple Watch and my up2 band (when I used to wear it more) very comfortable. I might start wearing my up2 more because it can natively track sleep and the battery is amazing and wear my Apple Watch for notifications. Thanks but no thanks Microsoft.
 
At least that would be a car for car trade. This is more like a car for tricycle offer.
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Nonsense. True fitness requires an actual workout. No activity tracker, including the AW does a good job at that. If that is your goal you need a dedicated sports watch. Activity bands can be terrific motivators to get off the couch and help you get to the next level. But once you are there you need a real sports watch, not a fancy pedometer with a 1/2 assed optical HRM.

You clearly have not used a Microsoft band and Apple Watch , that's nonsense .

Both have pros and cons, if the Apple Watch is a car as a watch , the band is a tricycle , come fitness the Apple Watch is a tricycle.

The band is an excellent fitness accessory. It's designed for everyday use, the dedicated sport watches you mention are not, so not a clever comparison. Who is going to wear a dedicated sports watch with a chest hrm on a daily basis ?? That is silly and impractical.

And no, for many the Apple Watch HRM is awful , read MR... in my experience it's so way off, it does not do a good job, and hence I got a dedicated activity tracker, big performance difference. AW is a tricycle when it comes to HRM.
[doublepost=1453028387][/doublepost]This is like any trade in program .

Don't forget apple also runs one, which it has renamed to reuse and recycle . Same thing, they are happy to take any of your devices and give you little in return.

http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/browse/reuse_and_recycle
 
You clearly have not used a Microsoft band and Apple Watch , that's nonsense .

Both have pros and cons, if the Apple Watch is a car as a watch , the band is a tricycle , come fitness the Apple Watch is a tricycle.

Sorry, you fail your mind reading exam. I have used a MS band. It's much more limited than AW. On fitness AW and MS Band are on par. Neither are great at that task, and no where near the accuracy or depth of a true running, cycling, hiking, or tri-atholon training watch.

But between the AW and the MS band the AW is worlds more sophisticated both aesthetically, functionally, and technically. Just as a car is to a trike.

Oh, and I wear a chest strap every run. Anyone serious about their performance wears one (grudgingly, I'll admit. They are a PITA. But they are real time accurate too) which is why the top sport watches come bundled with one and the optical bands are the realm of activity bands and mid-range running watches.
 
Sorry, you fail your mind reading exam. I have used a MS band. It's much more limited than AW. On fitness AW and MS Band are on par. Neither are great at that task, and no where near the accuracy or depth of a true running, cycling, hiking, or tri-atholon training watch.

But between the AW and the MS band the AW is worlds more sophisticated both aesthetically, functionally, and technically. Just as a car is to a trike.

Oh, and I wear a chest strap every run. Anyone serious about their performance wears one (grudgingly, I'll admit. They are a PITA. But they are real time accurate too) which is why the top sport watches come bundled with one and the optical bands are the realm of activity bands and mid-range running watches.

There is no way AW is on par with MS Band for fitness. Plain and simple. Your comment shows major bias to one product over the other, cause of brand loyalty, cause its not reality. The rest is just trying to justify it.

How on earth is an AW worlds more sophisticated technically than a MS Band? Even functionality, given you have to carry an iphone with you.... I'm talking fitness here.

my AW just cannot get an accurate HR during most activities, and its aweful with anything but the sports band. With the bracelet, it just will not lock.

A dedicated sports watch. Who cares, not relevant, the AW and MS Band are not competing against a device an athlete will use to track a session. Have you realised that you cannot wear a chest band all day long? Try it.... see how your skin reacts. Its a specialised solution.
 
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There is no way AW is on par with MS Band for fitness. Plain and simple. Your comment shows major bias to one product over the other, cause of brand loyalty, cause its not reality. The rest is just trying to justify it.

How on earth is an AW worlds more sophisticated technically than a MS Band? Even functionality, given you have to carry an iphone with you.... I'm talking fitness here.

Funny, I felt the same way about your comment. BTW, after initial trial run you do not need to carry iPhone on a run.
 
Funny, I felt the same way about your comment. BTW, after initial trial run you do not need to carry iPhone on a run.

I own both, actually have 2x AW. I'n not fooling anyone by pretending the AW is as good at fitness tracking as one of the better products on the market. Bias is someone who overlooks the facts....

Great if you always run the exact circuit. Plain and simple it does not have GPS.
 
That's a pitiful amount of money for a trade in. I bet the conversation went something like this:
exec: How can we make money off the band 2.
employee: By doing a trade in and then selling the apple watch on Ebay
exec: Consider it done!

This thread should have been closed after this post. Bravo
 
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Not a chance in hell M$. Even if I considered that for a zillionth of a microsecond, $200 is way short for the near $900 AUD I paid.
 
Not a chance in hell M$. Even if I considered that for a zillionth of a microsecond, $200 is way short for the near $900 AUD I paid.

It's about $300 aud, so around 1/2 of what you could make selling it. It's on par with trade in programs.

Though is this program not for US only?
 
It's about $300 aud, so around 1/2 of what you could make selling it. It's on par with trade in programs.

Though is this program not for US only?

Even at $300 and if it were outside of the US (I admit I don't remember reading if it were or not) it's an utter joke.
 
Go look at what trade in companies like Gazelle and Nexttrade are offering for them. It's equally as pitiful. I looked into trading my space grey sport in for a stainless model over the summer (when it was still new and hard to find) and was offered under $250 then. Cowboom sells watches returned to Best Buy for not much more, so Microsoft isn't far off market value.
yep, the resale values for apple watches is surprisingly low. Apple has changed the paradigm of watches: higher prized watches (i'm talking ~$500) are not something that you keep for 15 years anymore.

Also, the apple watch 1 is a bit limited and everyone looks for improved battery life and a stand alone GPS.
 
There is no way AW is on par with MS Band for fitness. Plain and simple. Your comment shows major bias to one product over the other, cause of brand loyalty, cause its not reality. The rest is just trying to justify it.

Ah, and once again you disastrously prove your prognostication skills don't even reach the level of Sarnac The Magnificent. That plus it seems you are the one that's a little biased. You see, as I've said in this thread, I don't think either the MS Band or the AW is particularly talented for true sports data gathering. They both are hobbled in this application for real time HR monitoring. YOU are the one suggesting the MS Band is superior. When I go for a run I remove my AW because it's just a fitness band in that aspect, just as the MS Band is, and I put my Garmin 630 and chest strap on -- a dedicated running watch for people serious about their training and trying to improve time. Check out a site like DCrainmaker and you'll see what true sport watches do.

My point, which you just can't seem to grasp is that the AW is more robust and versatile of a product, both aesthetically as something that could pass as a dress watch, and technically, with the app store opening the doors to multiple functions outside the built-in ones. There is NOTHING the AW can't do that the MS Band does. BUT the MS Band can't do a lot of things the AW can do.
 
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Ah, and once again you disastrously prove your prognostication skills don't even reach the level of Sarnac The Magnificent. That plus it seems you are the one that's a little biased. You see, as I've said in this thread, I don't think either the MS Band or the AW is particularly talented for true sports data gathering. They both are terrible in this application for real time HR monitoring. YOU are the one suggesting the MS Band is superior. When I go for a run I remove my AW because it's just a fitness band in that aspect, just as the MS Band is, and I put my Garmin 630 and chest strap on.

My point, which you just can't seem to grasp is that the AW is more robust and versatile of a product, both aesthetically as something that could pass as a dress watch, and technically, with the app store opening the doors to multiple functions outside the built-in ones. There is NOTHING the AW can't do that the MS Band does. BUT the MS Band can't do a lot of things the AW can do.

Silly comment .

Let's start with the first one, GPS in the MS band. Why on earth is GPS a useful feature in a fitness accessory?

Happily to go one by one of what the MS band can do, that AW cannot in terms of fitness.

Let's play this game .... This will entertain me.

Do you have any idea what features the current MS band supports? I doubt it if you believe the AW can do everything a MS band can.... Technically it can do a lot less....

And no **** the MS band cannot match the watch features or apps of the AW, it's a fitness band. Do you know what a fitness band is?
 
Wow. What are they going to do with the Apple Watch flooding in? :rolleyes:

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Silly comment .

Let's start with the first one, GPS in the MS band. Why on earth is GPS a useful feature in a fitness accessory?

Happily to go one by one of what the MS band can do, that AW cannot in terms of fitness.

Let's play this game .... This will entertain me.

Do you have any idea what features the current MS band supports? I doubt it if you believe the AW can do everything a MS band can.... Technically it can do a lot less....

And no **** the MS band cannot match the watch features or apps of the AW, it's a fitness band. Do you know what a fitness band is?

I wanted a smart watch. Not a garbage fitness band. I got a smart watch. I won't trade it for a garbage fitness band.
 
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I wanted a smart watch. Not a garbage fitness band. I got a smart watch. I won't trade it for a garbage fitness band.

I agree with you. AW is an excellent smart watch , MS band is an bad smart watch .

MS band is a very good fitness band, AW watch is a poor fitness band, though it does provide basic functionality for many.

When someone tells me an AW is better at fitness than the MS band, reality check.
 
And no **** the MS band cannot match the watch features or apps of the AW, it's a fitness band.

Finally! You get what I was saying when I first made the comment "At least that would be a car for car trade. This is more like a car for tricycle offer." Now we can end this ridiculous comparison of two very different products.
 
Why would you lose $100+ for what you paid for an Apple Sport watch less than a year ago to get a Windoze watch? Guess if you are not happy with it, but you can sell yourself and get more $'s.
 
Finally! You get what I was saying when I first made the comment "At least that would be a car for car trade. This is more like a car for tricycle offer." Now we can end this ridiculous comparison of two very different products.

Amazing. You make a bunch of points that are completely wrong, and illogical , and than jump on my comment where I state the strengths of each device , claiming the high ground lol.

Nice try at avoiding the point I responded with! Back to what the MS band does better for fitness.... GPS.

Happy to pull about your totally silly comment that there is nothing the MS band does better. Example by example.

Look, just quit , you will not win this one ;)

Or can you not bring yourself to say that the Ms band is superior to the AW for fitness tracking ??

I own the MS band, 2XAW, and dedicated sports watch. Your brand loyalty is completely clouding your ability to logically see the pros/cons of these devices

A few more posts and we will agree to disagree .
No offence , I have enjoyed this exchange, no bad will meant
 
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