I like the Amazon price better - just under 65 Washingtons.
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Microsoft Office 2015 (2016?)
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I like the Amazon price better - just under 65 Washingtons.
http://www.amazon.com/Office-365-Home-Subscription-Card/dp/B009SPTUW2
Microsoft is really taking a long time here to release the next Office for Mac.
It has already been 1,383 days since it released Office 2011 for Mac (the previous Mac version) and 557 days since it released Office 2013 for Windows (the Windows counterpart to next Office).
This is the longest gap ever between two Mac Office versions and also between a Windows version and its Mac counterpart. I have done the maths since 1997, which is when Steve Jobs took over Apple and also when Microsoft announced its US$ 150 million investment to save Apple (and when Bill Gates appeared on the big screen at WWDC to announce the investment together with Steve Jobs, also announcing Office for Mac would be available):
Office 98 (8.0): released on January 6, 1998
• 413 days after Office 97 (8.0) for Windows
Office 2001 (9.0): October 11, 2000
• 493 days after Office 2000 for Windows (9.0)
• 1,009 days after Office 98 for Mac
Office X (10.0): November 19, 2001
•*259 days after Office XP for Windows (10.0)
• 404 days after Office 2001 for Mac (9.0)
Office 2004 (11.0): May 11, 2004
• 266 days after Office 2003 for Windows (11.0)
• 904 days after Office X for Mac (10.0)
Office 2008 (12.0): January 15, 2008
• 350 days after Office 2007 for Windows (12.0)
• 1,344 days after Office 2004 for Mac (11.0)
Office 2011 for Mac (14.0): October 26, 2010
• 133 days after Office 2010 for Windows (14.0)
• 1,015 days after Office 2008 for Mac (12.0)
So, this is the longest gap ever. The previous longest gap between two Offices for Mac was 1,344 days (Office 2004 to Office 2008). And the previous longest gap between an Office for Windows and its Mac counterpart has been 493 days (back when Office 2001 was released).
What is going on, Microsoft?
It has already been 1,383 days since it released Office 2011 for Mac (the previous Mac version) and 557 days since it released Office 2013 for Windows (the Windows counterpart to next Office).
This is the longest gap ever between two Mac Office versions and also between a Windows version and its Mac counterpart. I have done the maths since 1997, which is when Steve Jobs took over Apple and also when Microsoft announced its US$ 150 million investment to save Apple (and when Bill Gates appeared on the big screen at WWDC to announce the investment together with Steve Jobs, also announcing Office for Mac would be available):
Office 98 (8.0): released on January 6, 1998
• 413 days after Office 97 (8.0) for Windows
Office 2001 (9.0): October 11, 2000
• 493 days after Office 2000 for Windows (9.0)
• 1,009 days after Office 98 for Mac
Office X (10.0): November 19, 2001
•*259 days after Office XP for Windows (10.0)
• 404 days after Office 2001 for Mac (9.0)
Office 2004 (11.0): May 11, 2004
• 266 days after Office 2003 for Windows (11.0)
• 904 days after Office X for Mac (10.0)
Office 2008 (12.0): January 15, 2008
• 350 days after Office 2007 for Windows (12.0)
• 1,344 days after Office 2004 for Mac (11.0)
Office 2011 for Mac (14.0): October 26, 2010
• 133 days after Office 2010 for Windows (14.0)
• 1,015 days after Office 2008 for Mac (12.0)
So, this is the longest gap ever. The previous longest gap between two Offices for Mac was 1,344 days (Office 2004 to Office 2008). And the previous longest gap between an Office for Windows and its Mac counterpart has been 493 days (back when Office 2001 was released).
What is going on, Microsoft?
I think like the equally greedy Adobe, they want to lock people into subscription only software distribution so they get monthly/yearly payments off their customers for life while convincing the easily lead ones that it's a benefit to them because they never have to pay for upgrades. (Having paid WAY more than the software could ever possibly be worth as a bought outright product just to actually use it).
I think it's because they halted work on OS X's version to get the iPad version finished. I can't say for sure, as I don't work there, but it makes sense. The iPad version is sure to bring in more money than an OS X version, and apparently work on it "helped with the OS X version" anyway.
Yes, I think that was the reason. Anyway, it is very frustrating. The lack of a decent Office is what makes me lean towards Windows every time.
With any luck, Office 2014 (15?) will be amazing. Apparently, they might be removing some of the legacy crap. That might make it work better.
Hopefully. Then Microsoft will release Office 2015 for Windows in Spring 2015 (http://redmondmag.com/articles/2014/08/01/whats-next-for-microsoft-office.aspx) and it will blow Office 2014 away again. And Mac users will have to wait for more than a year for some feature parity again.
I predict that Office 2015 will be a relatively small release. It will likely focus on bringing Office on Windows to a touch environment. There will likely also be a new document format, or maybe some improved ODF support. I don't see them really adding a ton of new features, though.
I have also read that Office 2015 could be focused on bringing touch to it. But why you think it would be a small release?
Because everything we've heard from it is that they're bringing touch first Office. There haven't been any other leaks and it's a year until it gets released. So I see that being the main thing.
And I see the focus of that being feature parity with Windows, that's it. Maybe throw more of their Modern UI onto it and get the Apple fans really mad. The only reason why OS X will seem like it got the bigger release is because it was so far behind.
I suspect that the next Office for Mac will have an interface similar to OneNote for Mac (which, by the way, I found very good).
Maybe they are holding off for Yosemite?
Just a thought, perhaps they are holding off until Yosemite is released so that they can release rather than releasing early and then having to deal with any possible problems that occur with a new version of the OS?
I have no information either way, but I used to work for a company that faced this problem every time new versions were due to be released. We would always release patches for bugs and security issues but would wait if the OS for our major platforms were imminent for major releases as we did not want to go to market with a new version just before the OS was released and risk having to come out with an update soon afterwards.
We were a conservative little company supplying OEM manufacturers, so not everyone works that way.
Just a thought, perhaps they are holding off until Yosemite is released so that they can release rather than releasing early and then having to deal with any possible problems that occur with a new version of the OS?
I have no information either way, but I used to work for a company that faced this problem every time new versions were due to be released. We would always release patches for bugs and security issues but would wait if the OS for our major platforms were imminent for major releases as we did not want to go to market with a new version just before the OS was released and risk having to come out with an update soon afterwards.
We were a conservative little company supplying OEM manufacturers, so not everyone works that way.
I think they could use the beta version of Yosemite to test the new Office.
One other thing: software using the new Swift language can only be released after October. I think it is unlikely that Microsoft uses Swift for any part of the Office code, as the language has just been released, but it's not out of the realm of possibility that at least a small part of it uses it, is it?
Don't expect it this year.
Nope
Mac too
Yup
Yup.
Why not? Is there any piece of information that you know or is this just speculation?
Again, why that would be?
As far as I understand Access is deeply embedded within the Windows subsystem and therefore a Mac version will never see the light of day. It is one thing to port an application that sits on top of Windows but the effort required to replicate core Windows functions within OSX is too much for an application that has lower market demand than Word or Excel.
Apple owned and killed Bento. It clearly was not interested in taking it any further than its lukewarm market reception brought it to.
I never heard that. Access is just a DBM, just as SQL server is, just as Oracle. I'd say the decision to exclude Access is more strategic and less technical.
Access isn't any more integrated into the OS than any other database program. Microsoft has just never supplied database drivers for any platform other than Windows and the JET format is proprietary. Now the database drivers may use things internal to Windows such as finding optimized ways to read/write data from disk, etc. To really optimize Access on another platform they would have to do the same thing. Maybe that's what you are talking about, but optimizing for a system doesn't really mean integrated. In any case it would be a lot of work and the demand for it is probably really really small at this point.
Some folks have tried to reverse engineer things to read/write from the databases directly versus using OBDC (which requires a Windows machine), but I don't think it has progressed that far.
I can't wait for Office 2015 to come out. I also agree it will share the UI from OneNote which I actually like quite a bit. Can't wait to replace Outlook 2011 even though it works for me.
Your understanding is not correct.
Filemaker, not Apple, owned Bento. As for the market reception, I believe it was due to the lack of updates (that would add requested features and enhancements) and not because there was no market for it.