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Outlook still shows a white background for the message pane. Kinda defeats the whole purpose.

Agreed, I’ve been on the slow insider programme and had it a while. Excel cells also look very white.

But if they can fix those misses then it would be pretty awesome.

I find that especially on modern hidpi and bright HDR capable screens the dark mode is very beneficial to my eyes.
 
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What is the advantage of using dark mode? That was how old computers worked and only Apple had the Mac that did no use such dark mode. Because it is easier to read dark text on white background than the other way round.
 
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What is this obsession with Dark Mode? It makes fonts and coloured icons look terrible.
Have those arguing that it reduces eye strain, tried to better balance the ambient light and screen brightness?
At home in the evening, I run a retina iMac at only 1-2 notches above minimum brightness.
For me, DarkMode makes every hour of the day feel like overtime
 
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Am I the only one that simply don't see what is all the hype with dark mode?

No, you're not alone. I fully understand why people want the option (and even use it myself in some apps), but not why it's such a big thing in terms of news. It seems any app that needs some publicity just needs to change its background from white to black and >BANG< - it's all over MacRumors. OK, so in this case it's MS Office - but front page news? Saying that, the reaction to these 'dark mode' stories is always overwhelmingly positive, so I guess we're in a minority not understanding why it seems almost as momentous an event as a new iPhone launch.

As this is clearly a big thing for many users, I wonder why so many major developers seem so slow to offer it? Twenty years ago it seemed every app under the sun had a 'themes' or 'skins' option - or were just permanently in dark mode whether you liked it or not!
 
No, you're not alone. I fully understand why people want the option (and even use it myself in some apps), but not why it's such a big thing in terms of news. It seems any app that needs some publicity just needs to change its background from white to black and >BANG< - it's all over MacRumors.

Oh you don't even have to release s**t. You just announce it will be released in the future (See Chrome yesterday) et voila -> Macrumors post
 
So is it worth $2000 for me to get dark mode?

Apple dropped support for my perfectly capable 2011 MacBook Air to "incentivise" my upgrade path.

Gee I guess it is!

I love you Timmy, now I can give you more money for your fancy parties!

You know, my old Dell XPS M1530 work notebook from three jobs ago, bought back in 2009, still runs the latest versions of Windows 10 and any Linux distribution that I throw at it, including Ubuntu/Xubuntu 18.04. And I bet you could just show Apple the middle finger and install either Windows or Linux on that MacBook Air, too. (My recommendation would be to move on to a flavor of Linux, it's much closer to the good parts of macOS - which would be its Unix foundation.)
 
Apple does the same with its own pro users :p - well .... non iPhone users ....

That’s why they made the iMac Pro, right, and why they keep updating the MacBook Pro? And it does make sense when you look at Logic Pro X and Final Cut Pro X and realize they’ve been updated in the last two months. Yep, totally shafting those pro users.
 
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Nice work Microsoft!
Im a big fan of macOS Dark Mode, and have been using it primarily since the first Mojave beta. I thought it was pretty gimmicky to begin with, but now find myself squinting everytime I need to activate normal mode for screenshots.
 
Just upgraded my Office 2019 apps. The major 3 - Word, Excel and Powerpoint - have dark mode. Secondary apps like OneNote seem to not support dark mode.
But the background window remains white and text black. Is there any way to reverse that?
 
I'm still running Office 2008 on my G4 iBook Leopard and i7 MBP i7 El Capitan. Pretty stable and besides I have the Pages app too, why upgrade?
 
i had a strong Doug DeMuro moment with the "pictures" icon in the upper left. In dark mode the sun above the mountains changes to a moon. I instantly had his voice in my head: "and thaaaat is attention to detail!"
 
I downloaded it all excited and.. it's an eyesore. Microsoft, please go back to the drawing board.
Absolutely. Word's document background, Excel's spreadsheet background, and Outlook's reading pane background are all still white. The huge contrast is jarring, unappealing and, in my limited experience so far, much harder on the eyes.

At the moment, I'm not a huge fan of the new icon set. I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually.
 
Stupid Question of the day ... how do I turn it off?

Some of the icons are a matter of taste ... but the key issue is that I need normal mode in Office and Dark on macOS ... and I cannot find the off button!!!
 
No, you're not alone. I fully understand why people want the option (and even use it myself in some apps), but not why it's such a big thing in terms of news. It seems any app that needs some publicity just needs to change its background from white to black and >BANG< - it's all over MacRumors. OK, so in this case it's MS Office - but front page news? Saying that, the reaction to these 'dark mode' stories is always overwhelmingly positive, so I guess we're in a minority not understanding why it seems almost as momentous an event as a new iPhone launch.

As this is clearly a big thing for many users, I wonder why so many major developers seem so slow to offer it? Twenty years ago it seemed every app under the sun had a 'themes' or 'skins' option - or were just permanently in dark mode whether you liked it or not!
Welcome to the attention-industry of ******** activity & non-news.
Where every SW developer is inspired to spend his time on what should have been implemented systemwide at a fraction of the cost/resources purely for the sake of getting his 10 seconds of attention.
And the appeasing herds of Apple users allowing that, letting themselves being denied of the most elementary theming, as some mererly empty-head execs believe that to be unsafe
 
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Whoa, Microsoft's dark UI looks better than Apple's. What a...dark time for Apple.

I've been using them for quite awhile and no, it's pretty terrible. Hardly any contrast, no adjustment to desktop tones, and the icons are ugh.
 
Dark Mode in Mojave is the biggest UI improvement ever in iOS.

But it isn't in iOS, it's in MacOS.

And I'm one of the people who think it's absolutely terrible. I kept at it for three days, tried a few different background colours, eventually gave up because of various things. One of the major ones was the inability to tell unread mail from read mail because a bold light font on a dark background is far less visible than a bold dark font on a light background and the new mail blue circle doesn't stick out as much. There were so many other visual cues that just disappeared into 50 shades of grey I had to turn it off so I could use the machine again.
 
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