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Microsoft's monthly/yearly subscription is a fraud. :rolleyes:

I understand companies need to make money but $99/year is a bit much .. for me anyway.

You can install it on up to 5 PCs and Macs, and 5 tablets, so if you have multiple devices it isn't bad. That said, it would be nice to have a cheaper option if all you want is the iPad edit functionality.
 
Are you really suggesting a "conspiracy" to increase rankings. Really?

Maybe Microsoft is also fronting their employees to purchase a subscription to increase rankings to 4/5th place. You know - giving 30% to Apple for what purpose exactly?

:rolleyes:

Well, since Samsung pays you and Renzatic to post here, anything's possible. :D:D:D


Disclaimer: This post is intended to be humorous.
 
Well clearly what worked for your company would work for every company. And any company that doesn't do exactly what yours did is - what - incompetent. Personally - I think I would prefer to not do business with you (specifically) if that's what you think of any/every other company that does things differently.

"So...uh. What does your company do"?

"Oh, we manually stimulate livestock for purposes of artificial insemination".

"Yeah, I guess you don't need Office for that".

"You still gotta keep records, man. That's why we use Google Docs. It's the future, you know. Quit living in the past".
 
Much rather get the ACTUALLY FREE versions of iWork for iOS. I haven’t used Office on my macs in years (aside from excel for work) because they just don’t run as well as iWork. I can’t imagine mobile versions would be any better. Especially for $100 a year.
 
I was skeptical of the subscription at first, also. But then I realized that $99 a year gets you the latest version of the Office suite on 5 computers, Mac or PC, and up to 5 mobile devices. If you have a small business or a family with multiple computers it's not a bad deal at all. If you need Office....
 
You can install it on up to 5 PCs and Macs, and 5 tablets, so if you have multiple devices it isn't bad. That said, it would be nice to have a cheaper option if all you want is the iPad edit functionality.

Microsoft will release a $75 edition, one desktop, one mobile device.

Shame its not $50.. oh well.
 
Depends on which surface you mean, now doesn't it?

Well I meant Surface 2 and Surface Pro. :) Seems to me Nadella's focus is Cloud, not "Devices and Services". I never thought it made much sense for Microsoft to be in the hardware business. I'll bet Microsoft stock would skyrocket if they spun off the devices part of their business and just focused on really good software available on any platform.
 
"So...uh. What does your company do"?

"Oh, we manually stimulate livestock for purposes of artificial insemination".

"Yeah, I guess you don't need Office for that".

"You still gotta keep records, man. That's why we use Google Docs. It's the future, you know. Quit living in the past".

Ewwwwwwwwww! Imagine using an iPad after manually stimulating livestock for artificial insemination? Or even worse, being the one to use it after that? :eek::eek:

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Yeah, I find your constant tendency to blow my cover an absolute teetotal barrel full of FREAKING LAUGHS! :mad:

It's not a secret anymore. I think everyone knows now. :D
 
My company works with over 5000 people worldwide.

7 years ago, Windows and Office. We thought we would always be a Microsoft company, until a new young IT manager persuaded us to consider switching to Apple with an initial test group of workers.

6 years ago, OS X and Office, with a possible transition to iWork and Scrivener.

3 years ago, OS X, iWork and Scrivener.

Today, we don't accept or use any Office files. If someone applies for a job citing Office skills, we think 'amateur and out of date' and reject them.

Business is up. Profits are up because of efficiency, and people using smart software to do smart things. Dumping Microsoft was the best business move we ever made.

Companies that stick with Microsoft do so out of ignorance, complacency and mediocrity. They think they need Microsoft. They are wrong. Who wants to work for or trade with such incompetent companies?

People say that they can't do X without Office. They are right. They can't. Other people can, and those are the modern open-minded people we want to employ.

Our only regret? That we didn't make the switch earlier.

How big is your company? Most big companies can't just stop using Microsoft Office. They have developed business processes that are depending on Microsoft Office, they have Sharepoint servers and use integrated platforms. These kind of companies have no alternative. If you think Apple is even remotely interested in getting into this business with its iWork suite, then you are mistaken. Office provides a very powerful suite of applications and businesses like it. They also like its manageability by using Active Directory GPOs. You see, it's not only about what features a specific software has, but it's much more than that. Businesses care about how easily they can apply their business processes by using the most appropriate tools, in a manageable, secure way.
iWork cannot be managed remotely. You can't change its behavior, its features, etc..
Most companies do care for all of the above, not because that Microsoft has somehow convinced them that they need manageability and security, but because they really do have these expectations and requirements.
I don't know what kind of business you are in and with what kind of companies you interact with, but not using Office formats is strange. Most companies have one standard and that is Microsoft Office.
Consumers on the other hand do not necessarily need Microsoft Office and that is where Microsoft has to become stronger. Consumers need something that works ok and can export to Office, if needed.
People that are using Microsoft Office are not old and slow..They can also be modern and have fresh thoughts..
I don't understand this resentment against Microsoft. Yes, they have done a lot of bad things, but they also have good quality software and to be honest with you, if it weren't for Microsoft, I would never switch to the Mac.
8 years ago when I did that, I researched first. I needed Microsoft Office compatibility and the ability to have support for virtualization for installing Windows Servers and clients for my test environment (I work as a Microsoft IT Pro). If all these things weren't available at that time, I wouldn't switch to the Mac. Of course I am really glad I did, because OS X is so much better for me than Windows, but it was really important that I kept using Office and also had access to the Windows world through my Mac. If that weren't possible, I would have never ever switched over.
 
And while I'm sure I could make it work, do I want those 5 people seeing my documents in my OneDrive space?

You can either add their Microsoft Accounts to your subscription, or you can just sign in a single time to authenticate your subscription, then sign out to use it (on Windows/Mac).
 
It doesn't mean anything of the sort. It just means that Nadella isn't as tied down to the Windows First And Foremost mindset Ballmer was.

Maybe, maybe not. I still think Microsoft stock would skyrocket if they spun off the devices part of their business. Microsoft is a software company, and mostly for the enterprise. Building phones, tablets and gaming consoles seems like a distraction from their core business and what they're best at. At the same time I think if Apple's wearable strategy is just hooks for 3rd party devices it won't succeed. Apple's best at building really great devices. I don't see the rumored "healthbook" taking off if there isn't an Apple wearable device to jump start it.
 
People just do not get it. Everyone at work gets an Office 360 account, Basically this just killed whatever chance iWorks had in enterprise.

I guess that is also why Microsoft does not care about the 30%... everyone with a volume agreement is already set. What company buys Office per unit?

All we did was send out a memo telling everyone to simply download the app and log in to their account.
 
Maybe, maybe not. I still think Microsoft stock would skyrocket if they spun off the devices part of their business. Microsoft is a software company, and mostly for the enterprise. Building phones, tablets and gaming consoles seems like a distraction from their core business and what they're best at. At the same time I think if Apple's wearable strategy is just hooks for 3rd party devices it won't succeed. Apple's best at building really great devices. I don't see the rumored "healthbook" taking off if there isn't an Apple wearable device to jump start it.

I hope they don't, because the Xbox division, while not being a massive moneymaker, does net them a little prestige and mindshare. And as far as PC tablets go, I haven't found one yet I like quite as well as the Surface Pro. I hope they stick with it and continue to improve it, myself.

They're a big enough company that they can have their interesting side projects without harming their core business.
 
Much rather get the ACTUALLY FREE versions of iWork for iOS. I haven’t used Office on my macs in years (aside from excel for work) because they just don’t run as well as iWork. I can’t imagine mobile versions would be any better. Especially for $100 a year.

Not everyone lives in a Mac environment. iWork is alright, but when you have to constantly convert documents back and forth between Office and iWork, there will eventually be problems.
 
Not everyone lives in a Mac environment. iWork is alright, but when you have to constantly convert documents back and forth between Office and iWork, there will eventually be problems.

I use iWork for my private documents, since my needs are not so big that I would need Office for that, but for my business needs I use Office only on my Mac.
 
People just do not get it. Everyone at work gets an Office 360 account, Basically this just killed whatever chance iWorks had in enterprise.

That sucks for everyone at work. If only they bought 5 more days, they'd be able to access the iPad version of Office for free!

:D (There's also a joke in there about "iWorks", but I haven't been able to find it yet.)
 
I use iWork for my private documents, since my needs are not so big that I would need Office for that, but for my business needs I use Office only on my Mac.

Makes sense. I have switched to Office apps on my iPad too, though, seeing how I'm mostly in Microsoft's ecosystem.
 
I hope they don't, because the Xbox division, while not being a massive moneymaker, does net them a little prestige and mindshare. And as far as PC tablets go, I haven't found one yet I like quite as well as the Surface Pro. I hope they stick with it and continue to improve it, myself.

They're a big enough company that they can have their interesting side projects without harming their core business.

I agree. I think the Surface Pro 2 is an excellent product and it should get even better for version 3. Someone has to come up with a 256GB SSD tablet or ultrabook and have it come in at $899.00. Microsoft could do this with the Surface Pro and include the type cover.
 
How big is your company? Most big companies can't just stop using Microsoft Office. They have developed business processes that are depending on Microsoft Office, they have Sharepoint servers and use integrated platforms. These kind of companies have no alternative. If you think Apple is even remotely interested in getting into this business with its iWork suite, then you are mistaken. Office provides a very powerful suite of applications and businesses like it. They also like its manageability by using Active Directory GPOs. You see, it's not only about what features a specific software has, but it's much more than that. Businesses care about how easily they can apply their business processes by using the most appropriate tools, in a manageable, secure way.
iWork cannot be managed remotely. You can't change its behavior, its features, etc..
Most companies do care for all of the above, not because that Microsoft has somehow convinced them that they need manageability and security, but because they really do have these expectations and requirements.
I don't know what kind of business you are in and with what kind of companies you interact with, but not using Office formats is strange. Most companies have one standard and that is Microsoft Office.
Consumers on the other hand do not necessarily need Microsoft Office and that is where Microsoft has to become stronger. Consumers need something that works ok and can export to Office, if needed.
People that are using Microsoft Office are not old and slow..They can also be modern and have fresh thoughts..
I don't understand this resentment against Microsoft. Yes, they have done a lot of bad things, but they also have good quality software and to be honest with you, if it weren't for Microsoft, I would never switch to the Mac.
8 years ago when I did that, I researched first. I needed Microsoft Office compatibility and the ability to have support for virtualization for installing Windows Servers and clients for my test environment (I work as a Microsoft IT Pro). If all these things weren't available at that time, I wouldn't switch to the Mac. Of course I am really glad I did, because OS X is so much better for me than Windows, but it was really important that I kept using Office and also had access to the Windows world through my Mac. If that weren't possible, I would have never ever switched over.

Very good points. MacHiavelli clearly doesn't have a business need at this time. He could also be missing out on something, which is entirely possible given that Word has more features stuffed into it than a pillow has feathers. That is both a strength and a weakness of Word: it has much to offer, but by the same token it is also cluttered. I don't know if I would call anyone who uses it amateurish as MacHiavelli does. It takes a practiced hand to know how to weild that bulky sword. Personally, I prefer the clean sidebar setup of Pages. But that is me.
 
I had already purchased the student version of Office 365, which was a one time payment of ~$79 for four years of use. Now I have Office on my iPad, but I'm so used to iWork I don't know what to do with it. I definitely prefer iCloud to One Drive. One Drive hasn't been as consistent in saving data.
 
Ok , i want to scream it. I CANNOT WORK ON TABLET OFFICE SUIT. Its pain in the ass. They are only valuable as a readers. You cant work on this device.
 
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