I spent 20 years in the MS-DOS - Windows world. I don't know how to use my OS X without a file system.
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Microsoft Office for iOS Updated With iCloud Drive Support
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I spent 20 years in the MS-DOS - Windows world. I don't know how to use my OS X without a file system.
Apple doesn't care. iWork was never meant to be a competitor to Office but rather as a backup in the event MS ever pulled the plug on the Mac version of office, or for people who didn't want to spend the money for Office and just needed simple word processing etc for personal home use. iWork will not disappeaer, IMO.
At any rate, I love this, but am torn. While I prefer to do most of everything with Apple, OneDrive is really nice, and I've been using it for awhile now with 30gb of storage for all my office docs. One advantage of using OneDrive is the ability to access and edit my documents using the web versions of MS Office on any computer I happen to be on at the time. I may stick with OneDrive, but I heartily applaud this move.
Does that work on Windows or Android phones and tablets? Does that work if the person is on a corporate network where Internet access is restricted? Can they open it off-line? (on a business trip for example) Will they simply bother doing it if they are not familiar with the format or the tool? (iWork is fairly confidential)
I am not 100% sure about the answer to all these questions but overall I am pretty sure the chances of the other party not being able to open your file are much higher if you send it in Pages format rather than Word format, especially in a professional environment.
And yes I think Google Docs is locking people as well, although in a different way (it is locking them to a particular web platform rather than a hardware platform).
I use Pages and Excel the most. If Numbers can come even 75% of the way of Excel, I would probably ditch it and use Numbers but until they add 100+ features Excel has, I can't really use Numbers much at all except for basic raw data.
I hate using Word and PowerPoint.
I hate using Word and PowerPoint.
This. My O365 w/OneDrive ties all my devices together cohesively. Doesn't matter which OS I'm using. Up to 5TB of storage and 15 devices, definitely one of my better tech purchases.
It's nice that Office has iCloud support. It just gives users more options. Doesn't do anything for my use case since my MBA is filled with 3rd party options that play nicer with my other stuff. Basically my MBA is just a well built PC. Maybe if Apple wasn't so chintzy with storage I would give it a look see. As is, it just doesn't seem worth it to me. If I was all in with Apple I might see things differently.
But their desktop client is really poor and they haven't updated it in about six months. I had it crash on me which is one reason I went back to Dropbox for the time being.
How do you save save a new document you've created in Word for iPad to iCloud? I can't figure it out. Seems that it's not possible.
no apples approach is totally stupid. you spent so much time flipping through apps it almost makes your head spin and then you have to guess and hope a certain app can open a certain file instead of simply having a project consisting of different file types in one place and you get a collection of different options to open it with. even my grandma gets it. i also want to know where my files are stores. does opening it inside an app make a copy or does it change the original file? no idea. apples the only one i can think of with such a twisted thinking of a cloud system.
Same issue here ...
If you open an existing file, close it, then create a new file, close it, you will see the name of the iCloud Drive folder where you existing file is located as an option in the dialogue box to save you new file. But if I click on it it triggers an error. Is it working on your side?
Now release Office 2015 for MAC with iCloud drive support and Apple bump up free iCloud storage from 5 to 20GB
5 GB just isn't enough as a free base anymore; I can't even back up my phone (just my phone) completely.
I do everything I can (data, general storage, MS Office, etc) with MS Onedrive (consumer version). I currently have 230 GB FREE space and with Bing Rewards, I'll have at least 130 GB free for several years if MS doesn't yank the rewards.
Seems like the only way is to have the doc previously saved in iCloud. But you can't seem to create a new doc in word on ipad and then save it to icloud. The option just isn't there.
Except that....
iWork is free.
Office is not.
Hence, I'll continue using iWork. It's good enough that I don't want to have to pay a subscription or any money for office software.
I have the home edition and OneDrive storage is practically unlimited.. it shows 10 terabytes but I think if you hit the limit they just give you more.
It might be a slow roll out, but all 365 subscribers should have unlimited storage.
Their photo handling features are indeed one of the best ones around.
I wonder if updating iOS version of Office is slowing down the development and release of Office 2015 (or 2016!?) for the Mac.
It probably is.
I think iOS is probably a priority for Microsoft. Having a (partly) free iOS version is promoting their cloud service and the use of Office on Windows.
A better/newer version of Office on the Mac is not doing much for them.
All I can say is it works everywhere Google Docs works PLUS it works even better without an internet connection or browser with native apps on desktop Macs and iOS. So Google Docs is more platform locked than iWork.
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Apple's way is very smart. The old archaic file system way is stupid. Why would I spend time flipping through apps? I want to open my keynote presentation file, I just open keynote and select the file. The old way had me searching through hundreds of thousands of PDF files, folders, movies, photos, word docs, and and all sorts of hundreds of different file types that are definitely NOT Keynote presentation files just to find that Keynote presentation file I wanted in some Finder or Explorer app.
Why would I open a finder or explorer app just to search through hundreds of thousands of non-Keynote presentation files just to find the Keynote file I really want which requires me to open the Keynote app anyway??? Now that's just backwards and stupid!
Let's be honest, you're just USED to doing something the old archaic way that was invented decades ago. The file system is stupid and the iOS way of handling it is modern and more intuitive but you're never going to like anything better if you think just being used to something makes it better.
Same here. Wasn't this the "main" upgrade feature, and it doesn't even work. Go figure.
Neither format is locked or encrypted or anything. Each can be opened in plain text and reverse engineered pretty easily, I think. Nobody has bothered making software for automatically converting Pages to Word outside of Apple (as far as I know) because Pages just isn't a very common file format.
But I've looked into it before. As I recall, it was just XML (pretty sure .docx is just XML, too.)
This could be great if iCloud Drive wasn't such a heap of crap.
It cannot be minuplitated in any way from iOS devices.
It cannot be minuplitated in any way from iOS devices.
While this is great I will stick to Microsoft's OneDrive it has more Cloud space I believe 30 GB and Apples free Cloud is still only 5 GB, it seems Apple has not learned anything yet.
