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They usually call it "Remember Me".

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I find maintaining file integrity to be a problem just within Office, across platforms and versions. On a number of occasions I've received Office docs that I can't open correctly in Office, but that iWork opens cleanly. Last week I got a Word doc that Word insisted in presenting as white text on a white background. Pages rendered it fine.

I agree it would be nice for iWork to just leave portions of documents it doesn't understand untouched, but frankly I don't know whether it tries to do that now or if the Office file structures would even make such a think possible..

Not that I question Office's capability to do anything, but is it possible the file was exported from iWork initially? Export to [Office doc] has always been kind of wonky with iWork and they tend to look the same when opened in iWork, regardless of how bad they look in Office.
 
One of my great joys in life is the fact that when I leave work and pick up my iPad, I don't have to look at MS Office.
I won't be wasting space with it when it comes out.
 
"Sooner than most think" = "Later than most care".

Much later, in fact.

That's probably not too far from the truth. I know many people who began experimenting with iWorks because of the seamless iCloud syncing. It'll be a while, if ever, until anything unseats MS Office in the corporate realm. But, at least with respect to mobile apps, if Office isn't released soon for mobile (other than Windows Mobile) Microsoft will probably find itself falling behind again.
 
It will require 128g iPad, likely the next processor with more RAM as well.... Hopefully they get the UI right at least.
 
Have you tried Numbers since it was recently updated? Suppose to have a lot more functionality and be very compatible with Excel.

No, I'll give it a try. My main problems have been lack of functions and lack of settings for graphs. Particularly, there was (or is) no way to make a simple x vs y scatter graph with multiple best-fit lines and/or curves (not just linear), and the interface for setting up graphs was bad.
 
From what I have read, it seems like most of this became a major problem wtih iOS and some of it appears to be unique to 64 bit Safari. I honestly have no idea. It seems to me that this was rushed to market with lots of bugs. We're 4 months into this or so and still no fix.

It's iOS 7.0.x (including the apps like Safari) that is the problem. And you're right, it's been way too long without a fix. I still haven't upgraded, even though a jailbreak is available.

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At my company, we've adopted Google Apps. We use Docs, Spreadsheets all day. Microsoft Office is old technology. They need to revamp it and give it away from free...

That's nice of you to share all your info with Google.
 
If it requires 360 to use it it will be DOA for most home users. Where I work they give us 360 to use at home so it will work for me.

If my work didn't provide it I would not pay a yearly fee for office.

Besides I have both a Surface and a iPad. The surface is my main work machine and the iPad is for my breaks.

iWork is getting better since the last bug fix. It actually opened up one of my reporting services spread sheets, so Apple is listening and may be getting serious about the work place. It still needs filters and a bunch of other things.

Who knows the iPad pro may solve all the above problems anyway.
 
From what I have read, it seems like most of this became a major problem wtih iOS and some of it appears to be unique to 64 bit Safari. I honestly have no idea. It seems to me that this was rushed to market with lots of bugs. We're 4 months into this or so and still no fix.

Safari has been problem-free for me, but I've been having rare glitches with the keyboard where in a few cases, I can somehow mess up the keyboard and make it stay on the screen when it shouldn't.

Nothing else programming-wise for me to complain about, just plenty of design problems. #1 is the buttons in the API with absolutely no border or anything to indicate that they're buttons or that they even exist when there's no text.
 
It's iOS 7.0.x (including the apps like Safari) that is the problem. And you're right, it's been way too long without a fix. I still haven't upgraded, even though a jailbreak is available.

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That's nice of you to share all your info with Google.

Don't you mean all of his CLIENT/CUSTOMER info?

Things are bad enough when I'm forced to avoid Google myself, but when I have no knowledge or control over the business practices of any given company I happen to visit or do business with, then that is horrible! Who knows what personal information of mine they enter into Google Apps that I would rather keep private between that business and myself?

I've watched secretaries at front desks do this, and they seem so non-chalant about putting someone else's private data on the Internet, especially when it is third-party services that they have no control over themselves.

In my opinion, no company should ever put any client/customer data on any third-party service, but this is especially true as it pertains to Google.
 
Safari has been problem-free for me, but I've been having rare glitches with the keyboard where in a few cases, I can somehow mess up the keyboard and make it stay on the screen when it shouldn't.

I'm going to guess split keyboard mode. It's somewhat glitchy and you have some extra options (docking, switch layouts) if you long-press the bottom-right "keyboard goes away button" (for lack of a better name).

I ended up turning split keyboard off in Settings because it was too unreliable and often caused odd but persistent scrolling issues in Safari.

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Don't you mean all of his CLIENT/CUSTOMER info?

Things are bad enough when I'm forced to avoid Google myself, but when I have no knowledge or control over the business practices of any given company I happen to visit or do business with, then that is horrible! Who knows what personal information of mine they enter into Google Apps that I would rather keep private between that business and myself?

I've watched secretaries at front desks do this, and they seem so non-chalant about putting someone else's private data on the Internet, especially when it is third-party services that they have no control over themselves.

In my opinion, no company should ever put any client/customer data on any third-party service, but this is especially true as it pertains to Google.

I'd rather them use third-party solutions than muck it up trying to do it themselves. Nothing worse than realizing there's massive amounts of client information stored in clear text sitting in a folder on the desktop.

Furthermore, I doubt that you have any scope of what kind of security goes into these types of services. I'll just tell you that it being stored offline on a $599 Gateway, from a security standpoint, is significantly easier to break into.
 
iWork works like a champ, sorry MS, too little too late. Did I mention its free? If you don't like living inside the walled garden there is always Google Docs. By Apple and Google giving their work suites away for free, they are really torpedoing MS. I'll be interested to see if this launches with a subscription. LOL If it does. Their market will be all the people that can only use Excel.


Except that it's not free. It's $30 for all three components.
 
You remote control into your laptop? Did you graduate from the Rube Goldberg school of business?

Actually, with sufficient bandwidth and speed it's not a bad solution. As with anything, if it works well enough to do the job than it is an acceptable solution.

No one is hating here. The collective consensus is that MS missed the boat. People have moved on to iWork and other solutions. And Office does not help the (business) world go round. Any business can choose a number of office apps. But MS has businesses convinced they have to use MS.

The problem is iWorks is not 100% compatible and lacks features such as revision tracking. iWorks is great as a standalone tool or for simple documents that require compatibility but in a world where almost everyone uses Office sort of compatible doesn't cut it. That's not to say MS won't shoot themselves in the foot by stripping down Office to the point it is no more compatible than iWork's but if they do it right being late won't matter.

If the build in real Exchange client that mimics the desktop version's features I'd buy it.
 
it is coming "sooner than most think."

How is that quantifiable and not marketing jibber-jabber? I get the impression the source article was meant to unstick an otherwise stuck pipe in the approval processes.

Either that, or they are intending a release that is, or will be, crippled just enough to lead you in the long run, to go and use the Microsoft hard and soft solution instead of the iOS version.

I'd be interested in looking at it, but not renting it.
 
Office is a huge card in Microsofts hand. Releasing Office for iPad is going to hurt them. One less reason to buy a surface.

No real reason to buy a Surface for me,if i need a real windows machine i'd rather buy a Yoga for example,not a Surface,i won't run Reason 7 or Fruity Loops on a Surface,its not convincing to me.
Then huge cards are the money they could do with it on Ipad such as Nintendo.
Market has shifted,no more windows time for now,not the one we knew,maybe in the future,
things are always in change,then we have to see
the 13 inch Ipad Pro if starts mixing the best of the "Air World" in the middle
by co-running or fusing together OSX and iOS or if just will enlarge the iOS world:D.( as rumored to be with Iphone6 ) and to make run by Wifi ( like with SplashTop ) OSX remotely with more to display than now.

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Excellent. All I need now is an iPad.

What i really miss is a "Quasar" feature on the Ipad,to drag and drop some files between two pages for example,a sort of larger IOS7 multitasking but larger.
 
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Hey guys, big mac user but have always used microsoft office but i find its the only app i have crashing. I have never used apples versions, is it an easy switch and can i do evrything that i can in excel, word and powerpoint? Would love to switch but ive never used it before, also would need 100% compatability so my files can be opened up in word and vice versa. Any comments would be appreciated thanks.

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Except that it's not free. It's $30 for all three components.

Its free for new devices thats what he means

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Too late, I switched to iWork 6 years ago. The only useful part is Excel, which isn't useful on an iPad. Then again, the iPad itself isn't very useful either.

If it's integrated with OneDrive, I guess it's also officially worse than Office '98.

How do you find opening office files and when someone opens an iwork file in office is there any compatability issues?
 
iWork is a toy. Office is a tool.

There really is no topic on this forum that doesn't provide you with the perfect opportunity to slam Apple, is there?

I don't understand why such obvious trolling is allowed.

People are waking up to the fact that Office is pure overkill for the masses that use it. For a small group that use it, Office provides needed functionality that other suites don't, but for the masses, simple (and free like iWork) apps do absolutely everything you'd ever need them to do, and I'm pretty sure that MS knows this perfectly (it's been a fear of theirs for years).
 
Office is a huge card in Microsofts hand. Releasing Office for iPad is going to hurt them. One less reason to buy a surface.

Microsoft are a software company. Forgetting that would hurt them. Binding their software to hardware nobody wants anymore would hurt them too.

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Hey guys, big mac user but have always used microsoft office but i find its the only app i have crashing. I have never used apples versions, is it an easy switch and can i do evrything that i can in excel, word and powerpoint? Would love to switch but ive never used it before, also would need 100% compatability so my files can be opened up in word and vice versa. Any comments would be appreciated thanks.


Good grief, no. iWork can do a tiny fraction of what Office can do. The real question is can iWork handle everything you can do?

Your needs and abilities are the deciding factor.

Many people find iWork does all they need and produces professional results far quicker. Many people find the opposite is true. Watching these people argue is pointless because it boils down to what features the user needs for their projects.
 
This sounds plausible--but if you do any document sharing the benefit of a common format is decisive. Not only do businesses need to switch away from MS, the need to switch to a common alternative, or there is lost value
Which is why I think Apple should have adopted the ODF standard for iWork, or at least work towards switching to it; standards and longterm storage and retrieval are a major issue for European and other government bureaucracies, which are tasked with preserving documents for at least 70 years by law. MS Office has consistently changed their format and dropped support for older formats, requiring organisations who archive digital files to maintain archaic equipment and OSes to run archaic version of Office. A truly open and standard format for Office docs is needed, which is exactly what the ISO standard ODF promises, but the only full implementation is OpenOffice and LibreOffice, with a few open source office suites having partial and inconsistent support. Apple is in a position to put a spanner in the MS Office works by helping to push for a true cross-platform standard. Given they aren't relying on iWork sales but simply use it to leverage hardware sales, this would be ideal for them; by pushing for whatever extension and features they need from within the document foundation, they can help undermine Microsoft Window's trump card which keep so many people on Windows. Given that the iWork format is surprisingly similar to ODF, both being XML in a Zip container with all the linked resources in subfolders in standards formats, unlike MS DocX etc which embed everything in extremely ugly proprietary binary formats. People don't like format lock-in which might strand their documents in a deprecated format in future.
 
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