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My point was people said iWork was not successful on iOS and I said the facts prove it was.

And what was your point?

My point was that Office will be successful enough on the iPad to warrant the resources, that 365 is likely to gain quite a few more subs because of this move.
 
A definite "no" to the subscription model.

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BWAHAHAHAHA.



Afraid you don't get it, then. Microsoft doesn't want to basically give money to Apple through Office sales.

Microsoft Office for iPad will be 'free' but unless you have an Office 365 subscription, all you get will be the login screen...:D
 
Looking fwd to trying it out, and still don't get why the "new" iwork is not backward compatible. Nonetheless, iwork is too much hussle to use in corporate environments, too bothersome to export rather than save documents in proper format etc.
 
100% Crap. Utter crap. Microsoft have not been hard at work making Office for iPad for 4 years. They have been stalling to help boost their sales of Surface. And look how that worked out for them. They are the biggest software company in the WORLD and you seriously think they needed 4 years to bring Office to iPad? Your crazy.

TWO years ago, Office was "ready" and it was held off for the surface.
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A definite "no" to the subscription model.

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Microsoft Office for iPad will be 'free' but unless you have an Office 365 subscription, all you get will be the login screen...:D

That's a funny way of putting it.

I honestly think this will work out well for them. It isn't like people would pay Office prices as a single time thing. iOS apps don't sell with higher prices for whatever reason. And I doubt Microsoft would feel like selling it for a max of 30$. :\

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TWO years ago, Office was "ready" and it was held off for the surface.
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Then why are they missing their own deadline this year? Obviously they found something wrong. :|
 
I happen to have some clue how coding works, yes.


So that would be a yes then. You believe that MS has taken 4 years to bring Office to the iPad simply because it was such a big task. It had nothing to do with internal politics, their reluctance to give people more reason to own an iPad, their desire to make the Surface seem more attractive, none of that right?


If Office for iPad is indeed a subscription only service..... well, combine that with the availability of free alternatives and I foresee rather poor sales for them. Too little, too late.
 
No thanks!

Not interested in a subscription.

I've been buying their stuff since Multiplan in '84, but don't
need an iPad Office if they won't sell it.

When a 2014 Office comes out for my iMac, I MAY buy that after
it shakes out a year or so without major gripes.
Maybe it might even be as good as their Windows product.

Microsoft USED to be a good partner with Apple. Not so sure now.

Takes them a long time to achieve stability and security.

Need to test in house before release instead of letting customers debug for them.
 
He is pretty cool actually.

Microsoft dragged their feet for too long. There was a time I would have paid $100 for Office on iPad. Now iWork is so much improved and I have grown so accustomed to not using Office that it would take overcoming inertia to go back to using Office.

Microsoft blew it. They sacrificed Office at the altar of Windows. They even sacrificed their tablet and phone strategy at the altar of Windows. Apple forged ahead into mobile and then went "Back to the Mac" by linking things through iCloud. Microsoft refused to leave Windows behind and instead the whole company got left behind.

It's $100 per year instead of $100 one-off. So I think even back then you would be turned off.
 
Office for Mac had 30,000,000 lines of code in 2006.

Yes, it is 4 years complicated to port it and make an entirely new UI.

No. Much of the code should be copiable directly from OS X. You're assuming they had to start from scratch. I highly doubt that's the case.
 
Office is an anachronistic clerical suite for clerks who do clerical tasks. Deluded 'power users' are clerks, stuck with using plebeian software designed in the 1990s. There is nothing professional about Office.

Office is to modern software what the fax machine was to email when it first launched...the dinosaurs said the fax machine would never die and claimed that they were the special people who needed faxes to do professional business.

There are always people stuck with misplaced reliance on old technology.
Did you forget about Excel. Excel is not just used by clerks.

Nearly every other piece of software in the Office suite can be easily replaced like Word, PowerPoint. But not Excel.

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If that's the case that means that there won't be any way to subscribe from the app and Microsoft is disallowed to even put a link to an external subscription site inside the app.

From the App Store Review Guidelines :

Correct.
 
Some people need Office on their iPad, but most people don't. For those that don't need Office on their iPad, I'm sure most would surely admit that it would be nice to have. But "nice to have" doesn't really translate to purchasing a pricey Office 365 subscription. Since I already have Office 365, I'm excited for the iPad version of Office and Office for Mac 2014. But I certainly could get by without Office if I needed to, as most people could.

This is going to be a bigger deal for corporate types than it will be for the average user. It's certainly not going to drive adoption of Office 365, but people on the edge will probably be more likely to pull the trigger on it.
 
Will MS continue to bash iPad (via commercials) now that they are hitching their wagon to it?

I think MS is suffering from a serious case of Mad Cow Disease to bash iOS when Android is much bigger player, and Google dominates the search, email, online apps spheres.

Apple survived by being Windows friendly (able to read PC media), now it seems the opposite could be happening.
 
I don't really see what's so exciting about this. Productivity apps just don't work well on the current tablets. Who wants to type text documents without a real keyboard, or work with Excel sheets on a 10" screen? At most I could see myself reviewing word documents (but that will require full support for change tracking), or make last-minute changes to a Powerpoint presentation on the go. A few colleagues of mine (I work in a Fortune 500 company) tried to switch to Surface tablets with Office when they came out, but they are all back to using laptop computers. Given how small and portable computers like the Macbook Air or ultrabooks are, I really don't see why anyone should bother with tablets for productivity tasks.

Another problem is that many corporations don't allow storing of company documents in external cloud services anyway.
 
One day when my kids were little, I sat with them and watched "Barney and Friends." After a few minutes I said, "This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen, I can't stand this." To which my wife replied, "That's because it wasn't made for you." And sure enough, my kids loved it.

For those of you who who are able to do your work in iWork (please stop putting an s at the end.) congratulations to you. You know what? Office was not written for you.

But please stop with the stupid, "who wants this" and "I don't need this" comments because, yeah we get it. Not everyone needs Word. But there are plenty of us out here that do need it and need serious tools that are compatible with everyone else that we have to work with. And those of us who do need Office don't really care that you don't, or that your hatred of a tech company leads you to go out of your way to avoid their software.

/irritated rant
Well said.

Too all of you saying that iWork does it all are you forgetting that 85% of personal computers run Windows? Computers that can run iWork are maybe 10% of the market. (Don't tell me it's a web based app, very few are going to run that for real work).

365 day subscription? yeah right......go to hell MS...
Thanks for letting me pirate your stuff, MS.
Hmm, maybe we've unlocked the reason for the subscription model???
 
Too all of you saying that iWork does it all are you forgetting that 85% of personal computers run Windows? Computers that can run iWork are maybe 10% of the market. (Don't tell me it's a web based app, very few are going to run that for real work).

Maybe so, but it's perfectly capable of being used that way; Apple engineers put a lot of work into it and it functions very well, even in beta. The only issues I've encountered are some missing features in Numbers (which is probably the least used in the suite).
 
I happen to have some clue how coding works, yes.

Sorry buddy, you can talk with that matter-of-fact tone as much as you want, but you will not be able to convince a single person on this forum that it took Microsoft 4 years to product this product. You keep boasting about your knowledge of coding, but your statements show me that you're the one who is misinformed. I don't care if they had to write every single line of code from scratch, it did not take them 4 years to code this. To think otherwise is naive. Not only is it an outrageous idea to even think a company like that would need that long to produce software, but we have also seen numerous credible leaks that show this has been largely finished for some time now. Simple fact is that production of this software started after the iPad was released, and it was largely completed a while ago. And since iOS is based on Mac, and there is an Office for Mac, I don't think they had to start 100% from scratch.
 
Doing this as part of their subscription service is stupid. Of the people left that actually care, this will lose 2/3 of them, myself included.
 
Subscription only you can keep it Microsoft! iWork's is getting better and better.

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Did you forget about Excel. Excel is not just used by clerks.

Nearly every other piece of software in the Office suite can be easily replaced like Word, PowerPoint. But not Excel.



But this is a touch version of Excel... Do you really think it will be any better than Numbers? I don't. PERHAPS more compatible, but we'll see.
 
While it seems they were holding it back to help out windows 8 its glad to see they are bringing it to iOS. If they do this right they could actually see them bring users to windows 8.
 
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