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Walmart has limited space, you're renting their space. iOS Store has a less limited space. Also, it takes a lower amount of resources to keep the store going than to keep Walmart going.

What about all those services hosted by Amazon or Microsoft servers that are paid for by other companies? Don't you think they should pay those guys either? Or is it the 30% amount you disagree with? Genuinely asking, not trying to argue :) I find it an interesting debate.
 
It's pretty much like this.

Don't want to buy a surface - that's ok. If you've got an iPad - we've got you covered too.

Personally I think that the iPad market simply is too massive for MS to ignore any longer. It's not like they are the Mother Teresa of software - even if some may like to make it sound so.

Had the surface become one of those so called "iPad killers" it could have well taken a different route...
 
I'm afraid Microsoft doesn't get it (my money).

I'm sure they'll be okay.

I know that you're really busy but out of curiosity - do developers have to pay any money that Microsoft doesn't deserve either when they want to sell something through the MS app store? Thanks for your time.

Yes, and it isn't right if they take 30% either. I could see 10-15% maybe.

No, it isn't. Not for the largest software company in the world. Not if they had any foresight whatsoever.

It still is. I'm getting the feeling you don't understand how coding works. At a certain point "throw more people at it" isn't going to work. In fact, once you get so many people any more will hinder the project.

What about all those services hosted by Amazon or Microsoft servers that are paid for by other companies? Don't you think they should pay those guys either? Or is it the 30% amount you disagree with? Genuinely asking, not trying to argue :) I find it an interesting debate.

The 30% seems too high to me, regardless of who does it. It isn't that I don't think they should have any money.
 
Too little, too late... and worst of it, it's with subscription while iWork and iCloud are just free!

2 or 3 years ago, I'd have buy office app for $10-20 each... But today? I just don't care anymore...

Sorry MS!
 
Personally I think that the iPad market simply is too massive for MS to ignore any longer. It's not like they are the Mother Teresa of software - even if some may like to make it sound so.

Had the surface become one of those so called "iPad killers" it could have well taken a different route...

No argument.

But if Microsoft knew they were going to enter the tablet market AND expected to be successful at it - I can see why they might hold off - even with the iPad's popularity, no?

Give their own platform a good going - and then release it for their "competition."

Did they lose a lot of potential revenue - sure. Hindsight is 20/20 though. It's very easy for people to judge now. It was a gamble. And they didn't really "lose" revenue. They simply didn't gain sales. You can't lose what you never had.
 
True enough. And I might be able to use Pages if the .doc format was the native format. But I often have to send documents to others to have them edit, etc. and many of them are non-Mac users.

To have to mess with saving a .pages as a .doc and making sure that the formatting doesn't get screwed up is too much of a hassle.

And then there are times where I really do need some of the advanced features of Word. I don't want to be using Pages for simple things and Word for the few times where I need its power, even if it isn't very often.

Can you give an example for me please? An example personal to you. I'm genuinely interested in your usage requirements.

Personally, I can't see a need to ever send a pages/ doc to be edited by a third party. With all of the collaboration tools available currently (google docs/ iWork/ office subscriptions), I feel the days of sending files for editing via email are long gone when there are much better alternatives.

As for the compatibility argument that some people have raised - I have Office for Mac. It's cross compatibility between Office for windows isn't that good - often times breaking formatting.
 
One day when my kids were little, I sat with them and watched "Barney and Friends." After a few minutes I said, "This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen, I can't stand this." To which my wife replied, "That's because it wasn't made for you." And sure enough, my kids loved it.

For those of you who who are able to do your work in iWork (please stop putting an s at the end.) congratulations to you. You know what? Office was not written for you.

But please stop with the stupid, "who wants this" and "I don't need this" comments because, yeah we get it. Not everyone needs Word. But there are plenty of us out here that do need it and need serious tools that are compatible with everyone else that we have to work with. And those of us who do need Office don't really care that you don't, or that your hatred of a tech company leads you to go out of your way to avoid their software.

/irritated rant

This. I personally fall into the one who does not really need Office and iWork will serve me just fine, but I do understand the need and importance for some people, tough there are probably very small number of people who really need Office yet use Mac instead of Windows.
 
Too little, too late... and worst of it, it's with subscription while iWork and iCloud are just free!

2 or 3 years ago, I'd have buy office app for $10-20 each... But today? I just don't care anymore...

Sorry MS!

As a former fcp user let me just say, if you rely on apple for your business software, you're gonna have a bad time.
 
Office doesn't work on the Metro side.

I know, but - Win8 runs on touch devices.

And so does Office.

So...it's not like they haven't put it on touch devices (though optimization is another matter; it wouldn't surprise me if they just took desktop Office's design for this, even though they've had plenty of time to optimize it).

I think by now we've entered the Tim Cook-influenced era.

When do we enter the Satya Nadella-influenced era?
 
The Cloud...just say no.

Call me a techno-LUDDITE, but I will shun any solution that forces the use of "the cloud". I'm just hoping that MS does not pull such a stunt with their release of Office for iPad (or whatever they actually name it). If they do, so be it, but I won't be buying it. I absolutely require all documents to be locally managed and accessible without the Internet.
 
Call me a techno-LUDDITE, but I will shun any solution that forces the use of "the cloud". I'm just hoping that MS does not pull such a stunt with their release of Office for iPad (or whatever they actually name it). If they do, so be it, but I won't be buying it. I absolutely require all documents to be locally managed and accessible without the Internet.

It will force the use of the cloud, but Office 365 can have documents locally managed and accessible without internet access. You just had to have made it on the device. It isn't a difficult concept.
 
Microsoft doesn't want to pay Apple's 30%. So the external subscription is how they get around that.

But if 100,000 people could/would bought the app and very few subscribe, that's ca$h lost...

Making 42% more of a small amount of sales by bypassing Apple's system is not going to equal what they could earn by letting Apple take 30% of an app that you'd see lots of.

Plus, if MS sold a real Office app and got more people hooked, many of those same people would buy the MS Office apps for their desktop and MacBooks.

No question that they'll sell it to the people that need it. But that's a much smaller portion of the market. So many of all those Mac people who have iWork free on the desktop and iPhones and iPads just don't need Office.

I've always liked having Office, but it's pretty rare that I need to do something that I can't do with iWork. Most of the times I have problems are with a document with very precise formatting and I'd probably have those same formatting problems with a new version of MS Office.

Gary
 
Buying a subscription to use a word processor? No thanks. Word processing on iPad? No thanks.

If this is the case then Microsoft needs to bring back MS Works and charge a competitive price for it on iOS and OSX. Most users do not need all the wonderful features in Word, PowerPoint and Excel. MS should break features down by tiers and sell a "Works" license not requiring a subscription and Small Business or Enterprise license requiring the 365 subscription. I think a flat subscription requirement is not going to help MS sell Office on the iPad, or Office in OSX. (assuming the new version of Office on OSX requires a subscription) Unfortunately, I think this type of licensing strategy is going to encourage jail breaking and piracy.
That's a terrific idea. I'd love to have MS Works (including the database) for the iPad. But I'm odd like that.
 
but but thats why u were supposed to buy an Surface!!! now MS will have to change all its commercials ;)

Microsoft must have noticed that:

Sales of iPad > Sales of Surface

Even if only a small percentage of iPad users bought Office for iPad... that's still greater than the total number of Surfaces out there.

Microsoft is a software company... they should sell software to as many people as possible.

EDIT... they should sell subscriptions to as many people as possible... no matter the platform.

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Great news for Apple. I think people are quick to forget that if it wasn't for the choices in Apps most wouldn't be using an iPad or an iPhone, or any other tablet for that matter.
 
Oh come on... The iOS version of iWorks is a toy compared to Office...

Actually iWorks apps on iOS devices are the most powerful office productivity applications on any mobile platform.

The iPhone version of Office is a joke. The iPad version is just going to be a scaled up version of the same junk. And you get to pay an ongoing subscription for the privilege of using this stuff.
 
Actually iWorks apps on iOS devices are the most powerful office productivity applications on any mobile platform.

The iPhone version of Office is a joke. The iPad version is just going to be a scaled up version of the same junk. And you get to pay an ongoing subscription for the privilege of using this stuff.

Office on WP says hello.

Office on Windows RT definitely says hello.
 
This. I personally fall into the one who does not really need Office and iWork will serve me just fine, but I do understand the need and importance for some people, tough there are probably very small number of people who really need Office yet use Mac instead of Windows.

Okay, but that's irrelevant. This article is about Office for iPad - there has been such a void for so long in this area that so many other apps have sprung up to fill Microsoft's shoes. People are complaining about the fact that MS took too long and they have already found something on this front that suits their needs. So, while yes, some people need Office for "serious business," I seriously doubt that those people are going to be using their iPads (or Surfaces - *cough* MS) to do that work.

That said, if a person were to feel the need to, say, view, Office files, that functionality is already built into so many apps, not to mention iOS itself. You can even use Preview to view Office files on OS X without Office! You can import files into hundreds of apps, and at this point, that import (and export, for most) works spectacularly unless you're doing something crazy with the formatting.

I'm not a businessperson - I'm a high school student: that requires more file management and word processing than you would think. The amount of work I do digitally these days amazes me, and that's slowly trickling downward. I live in Maryland, which is not the most tech-centric place in the world, and the other day, my sister and her middle school classmates were asked to bring in their laptops for class. If we had brought laptops there when I was in middle school, we would have gotten suspended...times change, and so does the way we use technology.

Simply put, yes, a lot of people need the "power" of Office, just like a lot of people need the power of a Mac Pro. But it's not for everyone, and it's certainly no longer the only option when it comes to getting work done.
 
Or pollute the argument with the old song and dance of how it sold millions anyway.

Sounds like a capitalist's nightmare, "it sold millions anyway."

I think, rather, it's quite the statement of success despite what those who refuse to "re-write history" believe it to be.
 
Wrong information on Office for Mac? No report has said MS will release office of mac Spring of 2014. Anyone to confirm?

https://www.macrumors.com/2014/03/11/office-for-mac-2014/
Microsoft originally had plans to release Office for Mac in the spring of 2014, but it appears the company will miss that timeline, instead planning for a release later in the year.
It looks like MacRumors didn't even read their own article they linked to. So it looks like this topic's article does indeed have wrong information.

(Gatting anyone to care enough about this, that's another story.)

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Yep. Nobody wants this now. Apple nailed it with their iWorks strategy.
BWAHAHAHAHA.
Funny cause it's true.
 
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