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Microsoft Office Update, and Visual Basic for Applications to Return
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Vba
WOW - how to come?
M$ is seeing the big picture and obviously business costumers again, after they were after beginners@home trying to design a full feature website in say: word! What a thing!
I read a blog from a guy at MS Mac BU, arguing why VBA is so hard to port to 10.5 and how easy it was to bring some annoying helpers in... By now he must be really mad at us advanced users, who use VBA frequently
So MS keep going and bring us VBA today, or tomorrow, or the day after that, but bring it back fast!
WOW - how to come?
M$ is seeing the big picture and obviously business costumers again, after they were after beginners@home trying to design a full feature website in say: word! What a thing!
I read a blog from a guy at MS Mac BU, arguing why VBA is so hard to port to 10.5 and how easy it was to bring some annoying helpers in... By now he must be really mad at us advanced users, who use VBA frequently
So MS keep going and bring us VBA today, or tomorrow, or the day after that, but bring it back fast!
Question
Yes, you can run both side by side. However, one has to be aware that preferences may become corrupt more easily running both versions.
Next verion - MS Office 2016
Yes, you can run both side by side. However, one has to be aware that preferences may become corrupt more easily running both versions.
Next verion - MS Office 2016
Where Is It?!?!
I don't understand why everyone is being so calm about this! office 2008, especially Word, is a terrible set. i need this update now and it should have appeared before.
for god sake give me the update and let me have what i payed for!
hopefully the next office will be better - glad to hear VBA is back!
I don't understand why everyone is being so calm about this! office 2008, especially Word, is a terrible set. i need this update now and it should have appeared before.
for god sake give me the update and let me have what i payed for!
hopefully the next office will be better - glad to hear VBA is back!
I know how fanboys love to hate "teh evil Micro$oft" but Office 2008 is awesome and beats the ever-living snot out of iWork and OpenOffice (which is a joke).
But then again, this is the same blind hate used against Vista too.
But then again, this is the same blind hate used against Vista too.
okay good and ba news
THANK GOD! why did they remove this in the 1st place
The VBA thing is good, but this means that third party reference managers aren't gonna bend over backwards to update their software to be compatible if VBA is just going to come back in the next version.
THANK GOD! why did they remove this in the 1st place
The VBA thing is good, but this means that third party reference managers aren't gonna bend over backwards to update their software to be compatible if VBA is just going to come back in the next version.
skipping
Yea no VBA means no office for me.
OpenOffice works good and iWorks works good too.
Whose brain was it to eliminate VBA. The whole idea was to provide a way to use/edit documents in either platform. Without VBA some documents do not work, therefore why buy the product when other products like OpenOffice and iWorks provide similar capabilities?
Yea no VBA means no office for me.
OpenOffice works good and iWorks works good too.
Whose brain was it to eliminate VBA. The whole idea was to provide a way to use/edit documents in either platform. Without VBA some documents do not work, therefore why buy the product when other products like OpenOffice and iWorks provide similar capabilities?
Well that will give them a little time to fix some of the bugs and get VBA right. Mean time I will use iWorks and OpenOffice. Not spending money in the current version or any version until I see VBA and make sure there are no major issues.
Forgive the continued ignorance, but when you state "preferences may become corrupt more easily", what do you mean? Specifically, how will/could this effect the performance and how can it be fixed? When I indicated running the programs side-by-side, I actually meant "on the same machine", not necessarily at the same moment. Would that change anything? Many thanks.
Because they've decided not to essentially abandon Office for Mac. Ballmer is going and Gates is retaking over Microsoft, he's the one who's made two recent press releases for the company: http://arstechnica.com/journals/mic...ows-7-will-take-less-memory-be-more-efficient and http://arstechnica.com/journals/mic...ows-7-will-take-less-memory-be-more-efficient.
Office 2008
Yes, optimization for 10.5 would be very much welcome - 2004 opens and responds faster under universal code - this is sad.
The announcement stated that the update "will" be available. Hopefully by 12:00 PM PST, or sometime today.
Yes, optimization for 10.5 would be very much welcome - 2004 opens and responds faster under universal code - this is sad.
The announcement stated that the update "will" be available. Hopefully by 12:00 PM PST, or sometime today.
Yay...i love Office....When I first got a mac a year ago I ran NeoOffice which I think is pretty good then I switched to IWorks which I hated and now I'm using Office 2008 and its great, especially Word 2008 which I love.
haha the funny thing is I thought I already download the first service pack a few months ago...i guess it was just some update.
haha the funny thing is I thought I already download the first service pack a few months ago...i guess it was just some update.
Word
Well, it does sound like Microsoft is paying attention to it's Mac customers... I think they spend time reading these forums, as I have caught a few of them replying to comments made... Keep up the good work!
With that being said however, it still lacks the performance... Big time! Like another user posted, it takes 45-60 seconds to completely load the program, to where you can actually use it. Mine still opens quickly, but then the cursor doesn't blink, because the program is still loading. I NEVER shut Word down on my computer for this very reason... Sometimes I will be on the phone, when asked questions, sometimes I need to open a document or spreadsheet quickly... I have no time to wait! In the Windows world, Word is so snappy, that you can actually close down the whole program, select a new document, and open it back up like the program was running the whole time, when actually it was closed. I don't get it.
Congrats on this VBA that I will NEVER use... I do need my documents to open fast... I need it to be snappy once its open... That is all I really want!
I'm sure Microsoft will get there... But by that time, they will come out with a completely new version that will need to be reworked as well! Upgrades are supposed to be steps forward... NOT backward! FYI.
Well, it does sound like Microsoft is paying attention to it's Mac customers... I think they spend time reading these forums, as I have caught a few of them replying to comments made... Keep up the good work!
With that being said however, it still lacks the performance... Big time! Like another user posted, it takes 45-60 seconds to completely load the program, to where you can actually use it. Mine still opens quickly, but then the cursor doesn't blink, because the program is still loading. I NEVER shut Word down on my computer for this very reason... Sometimes I will be on the phone, when asked questions, sometimes I need to open a document or spreadsheet quickly... I have no time to wait! In the Windows world, Word is so snappy, that you can actually close down the whole program, select a new document, and open it back up like the program was running the whole time, when actually it was closed. I don't get it.
Congrats on this VBA that I will NEVER use... I do need my documents to open fast... I need it to be snappy once its open... That is all I really want!
I'm sure Microsoft will get there... But by that time, they will come out with a completely new version that will need to be reworked as well! Upgrades are supposed to be steps forward... NOT backward! FYI.
I bought Office 2008; but as an experiment of sorts I've been exclusively using iWork '08 (motivated in part by the molasses-like launch speeds of Office 2008). I haven't yet found a need for Office at all.
Since I don't use Entourage, and won't need VBA... I am probably done with Office. I would guess the reason VBA is coming back is Microsoft realizes there's no particular need for most people to buy Office without it, thanks to the rapidly maturing alternatives (iWork, NeoOffice/StarOffice, AbiWord). I would also hazard a guess that their "Live!" components are going to find their way to the Mac side for the next iteration - they're probably scared as heck about Google Docs.
BTW let me put in a plug for AbiWord if you only need a word processor and not a spreadsheet program. It's lightweight, fast, and free. It did a darn good job even four-five years ago, back when I was a Linux-head and Office-compatibility options were few and far between.
Since I don't use Entourage, and won't need VBA... I am probably done with Office. I would guess the reason VBA is coming back is Microsoft realizes there's no particular need for most people to buy Office without it, thanks to the rapidly maturing alternatives (iWork, NeoOffice/StarOffice, AbiWord). I would also hazard a guess that their "Live!" components are going to find their way to the Mac side for the next iteration - they're probably scared as heck about Google Docs.
BTW let me put in a plug for AbiWord if you only need a word processor and not a spreadsheet program. It's lightweight, fast, and free. It did a darn good job even four-five years ago, back when I was a Linux-head and Office-compatibility options were few and far between.
One complaint down!
I'm actually happy that Microsoft is adding back VBA support. Now if they can add:1. an option to enable the one-letter short cuts (a la Windows Excel 2003)
2. Fix hyper links from disappearing when going from Windows to Mac
3. Speed up load time.
I'd be a very happy camper.
My thoughts exactly. I wonder now how many other Office 2004 users who were on the fence have now decided to wait for office 201x.
Although, I bet you'll have to shell out for the "premium edition" or whatever to get VBA support.
SL
Anyone know where you can download SP1 from? Does not appear on AutoUpdate or Microsoft Mactopia site.
Is that on PPC or Intel? I'm on a 2.6GHz MBP and from clicking the Word icon in the dock to being able to type is about 5-6 seconds.
-Zadillo
I prefer iWork to Office but Apple has to make Numbers more powerful to allow me to completely abandon Excel. As it stands now, I would never use Word or PowerPoint again except that I often have to share documents with Windows users and the conversion back and forth just isn't accurate enough.
This has me using Office on a daily basis. The upgrade to 2008 has been a disappointment because it takes forever to load, Word and Excel crash frequently, and having no VBA creates its own set of problems. Hopefully, the SP will fix the first two issues. Otherwise, I would recommend that anyone thinking about upgrading to 2008 should skip it and wait for the next version. Office 2004 may lack the new features but at least it will allow you to reliably get your work done.
This has me using Office on a daily basis. The upgrade to 2008 has been a disappointment because it takes forever to load, Word and Excel crash frequently, and having no VBA creates its own set of problems. Hopefully, the SP will fix the first two issues. Otherwise, I would recommend that anyone thinking about upgrading to 2008 should skip it and wait for the next version. Office 2004 may lack the new features but at least it will allow you to reliably get your work done.
Excel
I like the new Microsoft Office for Mac. Except the fact that Office for Mac does not have histograms in Excel. I use Excel a lot and would love to have that feature!
I like the new Microsoft Office for Mac. Except the fact that Office for Mac does not have histograms in Excel. I use Excel a lot and would love to have that feature!