It was said the reason VBA support was initially removed is because it would have taken a couple of more years to port it over to Office 2008. Guess they were right - now it will take a few more years before they get it into Office 20xx.
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Microsoft Office Update, and Visual Basic for Applications to Return
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I have a 2.4ghz iMac and the launch time for Word is almost as ridiculous as it is for version 2004.
You see, Word has to go through and check every font installed on your Mac to make sure none are corrupted and to load them into cache.
When I launch Word, I see nothing but a bouncing dock icon for over a minute. I have over 1000 fonts installed on my system, like many graphic designers do.
Adobe doesn't do this, so why Microsoft? Poorly written software. This problem goes back to the days where Word would crash if you unknowingly tried to use a corrupted font. So the geniuses at Microsoft decided to correct the problem by checking every font first. Yay!
Absurd MSFT
Thanks to Google + Zoho we get VB macros back.
It is absurd for MSFT to suggest they are bringing VB back after learning of the need for it from a supposedly small segment of users. Just absurd. They knew it would screw nearly every business user of Excel, but in previously-typical MSFT fashion they just did not care.
What we are seeing if the affect of competition. How stupid is it that Zoho can provide VB for macros, yet mighty MSFT cannot find the resources to covert at least some of the key VB elements for Leopard. That tells you all you need to know about it.
This is a true sign that MSFT is really under some strategic pressure. Good for Mac users, and ultimately good for MSFT shareholders. They really have some great talent at the company (know a good number myself), but must get past their misanthropic management decisions.
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Thanks to Google + Zoho we get VB macros back.
It is absurd for MSFT to suggest they are bringing VB back after learning of the need for it from a supposedly small segment of users. Just absurd. They knew it would screw nearly every business user of Excel, but in previously-typical MSFT fashion they just did not care.
What we are seeing if the affect of competition. How stupid is it that Zoho can provide VB for macros, yet mighty MSFT cannot find the resources to covert at least some of the key VB elements for Leopard. That tells you all you need to know about it.
This is a true sign that MSFT is really under some strategic pressure. Good for Mac users, and ultimately good for MSFT shareholders. They really have some great talent at the company (know a good number myself), but must get past their misanthropic management decisions.
needSomeCoffee?
Office 2008 is Horrible
I bought the Office 2008 and subsequently reverted back to 2004, which has actually become a pretty good suite of programs. I was stunned at how slow and buggy 2008 was. I've actually never before revert to an earlier program, but the compatibility with the PC Office 2003 is much worse than in Office 2004 (particularly with formulas, which I use all the time). My hope is that someday the Office 2008 will be fast and stable enough to use. At first I thought that Microsoft was just trying to hurt Mac users, but given Vista's reviews, I think they just have a lot of trouble writing software.
I bought the Office 2008 and subsequently reverted back to 2004, which has actually become a pretty good suite of programs. I was stunned at how slow and buggy 2008 was. I've actually never before revert to an earlier program, but the compatibility with the PC Office 2003 is much worse than in Office 2004 (particularly with formulas, which I use all the time). My hope is that someday the Office 2008 will be fast and stable enough to use. At first I thought that Microsoft was just trying to hurt Mac users, but given Vista's reviews, I think they just have a lot of trouble writing software.
Well you are welcome to sit around and do name calling all you want (example, Fanboy comments) (you don't look like prince doing that BTW) but the truth of the matter is Microsoft gives the Mac community very good reasons to hate them.
Firstly they come out with Office 2008 and for most people who don't read these forums they just go into the Apple store and buy MS Office thinking it's as good or better than the last. They have no idea MS screwed them on the VBA thing. Once they get home and open it and find out later they are stuck with it.
MS Office 2008 is very slow to load (especially against the Windows version) despite the claims by MS it's designed for the Intel Macs.
Now MS makes an announcement that they are bringing VBA back to Mac Office and unfortunately not until the next version???
Hmm, that means you will have to buy another copy of Office and it won't be available until 2012.
This is a ploy to get force the Intel Mac community to buy the Windows version, that was Microsoft's plan all along.
Tell me why the Mac community doesn't have a reason to hate Microsoft.
There nothing blind about the Mac communities reaction and BTW as far as Vista is concerned, you need to visit more Windows forums, they will tell you how much Vista sucks, you don't need Mac users for that.
It's not on Microsoft Auto Update yet - you have to go to the Microsoft website to download.
Two things I noticed.
1) Microsoft also released an update for Office 2004.
2) What's up with Microsoft's version scheme? Office 2004 went from 11.x.0 -> 11.x.2 -> 11.x.3, etc. . Office 2008 is going from 12.0.0 -> 12.0.1 -> 12.1.0 . Guess they're changing it to go along with major updates.
1) Microsoft also released an update for Office 2004.
2) What's up with Microsoft's version scheme? Office 2004 went from 11.x.0 -> 11.x.2 -> 11.x.3, etc. . Office 2008 is going from 12.0.0 -> 12.0.1 -> 12.1.0 . Guess they're changing it to go along with major updates.
Coincidentally, I uninstalled Office 2008 last night. I had both 2004 and 2008 on my Macbook, and I didn't mind 2008 too much as it didn't cause my fans to go into jet engine mode. It is full of bugs however (spaces anyone?), and MOST importantly (for me) it doesn't work with Endnote (bibliography software). It also stopped my copy of Word 2004 working with Endnote too. It had to go. I use iWork most of the time now, and use Word 2004 to insert references.
I think when it is finished it'll be a good suite (as others have said excel>numbers), but until it is fixed, no thanks...
I think when it is finished it'll be a good suite (as others have said excel>numbers), but until it is fixed, no thanks...
Likewise.
This answers my question about getting Office 2008. Like you, I'm going to wait for the next version with VBA support. Office 2004 will have to work until then for me.
Good news!
Auto Update
Update ought to appear later in the day. (Vista Speak: any minute now)
When downloading from the Mactopia site: http://www.microsoft.com/mac/downlo...d=395D1487-A3A6-4106-A0F8-4D6E1D6D89D2#viewer
be sure to scroll down in 'Details' to select appropriate download link.
Update ought to appear later in the day. (Vista Speak: any minute now)
When downloading from the Mactopia site: http://www.microsoft.com/mac/downlo...d=395D1487-A3A6-4106-A0F8-4D6E1D6D89D2#viewer
be sure to scroll down in 'Details' to select appropriate download link.
The OpenOffice.org Aqua beta was finally released a few days ago. I haven't tried Office '08 and I can't tell if it's a really terrible set of programs or the fanboys are just louder than everyone else.
this is a good continuation for mac compatibility for product lines.
BUT... Microsoft ought to create better Windows Media Player DRM compatibility. By allowing Flip4Mac to playback DRM encoded WMP files.
This is a big issue as many providers use microsoft DRM, until msft allows for better DRM compatibility, macs users are being given second class status!
BUT... Microsoft ought to create better Windows Media Player DRM compatibility. By allowing Flip4Mac to playback DRM encoded WMP files.
This is a big issue as many providers use microsoft DRM, until msft allows for better DRM compatibility, macs users are being given second class status!
The installer says it will take up 474MB - surely that cannot be right!
No, it's not right at all. Mine says it's going to take up 521MB
And my first Time Machine backup afterwards is backing up 833MB of data, granted 180MB is the .dmg...but still!
How come I feel so 'dirty' using a Microsoft product on my Mac?!
-Kevin
So I just updated and Word seems to have opened faster.
I dunno, that's fine I guess...
I'm an upgrade junkie...just ask my 4th wife.
I dunno, that's fine I guess...
I'm an upgrade junkie...just ask my 4th wife.
The Equation Editor bug (fuzzy equations in reopened docs) seems to be fixed. It's just a shame this update is nearly the size of iWork...
Edit: Just to clarify, formerly fuzzy images are still fuzzy, but if you double-click one to fix the way it displays the change seems to stick.
Edit: Just to clarify, formerly fuzzy images are still fuzzy, but if you double-click one to fix the way it displays the change seems to stick.
Well, I just updated the application as well and it broke the installation. Every time i click on either of the bundled apps it goes into the customer experience program, click continue, then auto update, then the application never opens? Am I missing something here?
//Cheers