Microsoft Outlines New Features Coming to Edge Browser Later This Year

[TheMacDaddy1]

I don't understand the Safari hate on this forum, my only gripe with it is the extensions shortage but that's being resolved soon.

I hate to say it but it's the truth, Edge is a really good browser from the few times I used it on Windows. I'm eventually transitioning away to it from Chrome for my work laptop.

Is Safari getting real ad blockers like Ublock? I use Wipr on Safari, which is pretty good, but nothing like Ublock on a chromium based browser.

 

[BeefCake 15]

I worked at MS on Windows back in the Win 7 days. Back under Balmer.

Sorry to hear that and hope you're over that traumatic event.

 

[Minuteman3]

I've been growing to like Edge more and more vs Safari. Seems faster and I seem to get a better layout on Edge than I do on Safari on some pages. The one thing I miss on Edge that keeps me from switching full time is the integration that Safari offers, especially taking info from Messages for two-factor authentication ... such a nifty little feature. Kind of stupid, I know, but it's so convenient!!

Ken

 

[ArtOfWarfare]

I’m just not interested in ME on a Mac. 🤷🏾‍♂️ I actually dont like needing to update my browser every five minutes.

You don't need to update every five minutes. You can update every other week, and it's best that you do, but you can treat Edge the same as Safari and just update it once a year if you want to be pointlessly vulnerable to exploits that were fixed weeks ago.

I don't use Edge, but I use Firefox and I have used Chrome in the past and I can't imagine Edge is different from those two... every other week a little icon will pop up in the corner letting you know an update is available. The next time you reboot the browser or your computer, it'll install an update... totally transparent and easy - the same as how app updates work on iOS. Not sure why you'd complain.

The one small risk is that theoretically, because Apple releases updates to Safari less frequently, they'd test them better. But that's nonsense - Apple's software development and Q/A practices are archaic and incredibly bad compared to Microsoft, Google, and Mozilla. You see this everytime Apple pushes out an update - tons of people will flock to MR to ask whether the update is actually functional, after Apple is already pushing it to everyone. You see this from all the times Apple has regressions and bugs that were fixed get reintroduced. It means Apple doesn't have full automated test coverage and they don't have regression tests for every fix.

You see this in WWDC - you should have about twice as many tests as actual code, and you really need a bunch of testing tools... this isn't something that generally comes up at WWDC. I don't think Apple has developers at the top of the company the way a tech company should, the way Microsoft, Google, and Mozilla do. Which means Apple's priorities are messed up - code quality isn't something they focus on anywhere near enough.

Apple and macOS were great 20 years ago, when they had just acquired NeXT, which was very much a tech-focused company where developers ran the company. But that's all long gone - Apple hasn't cared about safety ad stability since Snow Leopard. They care about hardware and Apple Silicon, and that's great, but the software is badly suffering from over a decade of neglect.

 

[ericg301]

i switched to Edge on all platforms a few months ago and haven't looked back.

 

[Shirasaki]

I’m using edge on windows and I rarely get any promoot for update if at all. I dunno what setting you guys have and what version you guys are using but edge certainly won’t just update daily on it’s own.

 

[jive turkey]

No DuckDuckGo on Edge for iOS, a show stopper for me, I'm too used to the !Bangs

Since you mentioned !Bangs I'm assuming you are talking about DDG as a default search engine (and not the privacy add-on). If so, you can use DDG on Edge in iOS--I do it all the time. MS obviously wants you to use Bing so it is tucked away under Advanced Settings, but DDG is one of the options to chose from.

 

[jive turkey]

I don't see the frequent updates on Edge, either, but I have seen complaints about it elsewhere, too. For me they always come early every Friday. However, I do have some problems with updates on an iMac where, if the browser is open when the update hits, it totally stops working. It doesn't freeze, but it will not respond to any clicks and even using the keyboard to open new tabs or preferences will just present a blank page. That is annoying AF if you are working on something when it happens. I haven't seen that issue on my laptop but don't use Edge nearly as often there.

 

[okbymeman]

Safari is definitely the worst of the major browsers. Edge is great.

 

[Wildkraut]

Since you mentioned !Bangs I'm assuming you are talking about DDG as a default search engine (and not the privacy add-on). If so, you can use DDG on Edge in iOS--I do it all the time. MS obviously wants you to use Bing so it is tucked away under Advanced Settings, but DDG is one of the options to chose from.

Yeah, DuckDuckGo as default Search Engine for Edge, but it's not there, I just have Google under Others on iOS ...

Edit: I had to visit the site duckduckgo.com first, to make it appear in the Search Engine menu, that's anti-competitive

 

[Wildkraut]

Scrolling fast up/down incl. full stop(touch) using Edge for iOS on Macrumors mainpage sucks, the site bounces strange. On other sites it works fine.
Is MR primarily Safari optimized?!

PS: It’s the “show full article” feature which is making the MR site bounce. It keeps changing the article preview height dynamically during the scrolling activity.

 

[kingtj1971]

Edge is pretty good on Windows, but using it instead of Safari on macOS is a weird choice.

I feel the same way. In Windows in a corporate environment, Edge is nice because you can centrally manage most aspects of it via InTune. My workplace has it configured so Edge starts out signed in with your SSO credentials based on your initial computer login, so corporate sites just open up with you already signed into them.

 

[omiks]

The only downside for edge imo is that to continue browsing on a different device doesn't always work. And it's gonna be seamless on the new safari. Other than that I love Edge and have been using it on all my devices.

 

[TheMacDaddy1]

Yeah, DuckDuckGo as default Search Engine for Edge, but it's not there, I just have Google under Others on iOS ...

Edit: I had to visit the site duckduckgo.com first, to make it appear in the Search Engine menu, that's anti-competitive

I just checked....Bing was the default, but under "Others" I have Google, Yahoo and Duckduck...and I did not have to browse to it either.

Edge pops up on my Mac when I have it open on my iPhone, like Safari does...handoff or whatever its called. I did not know it did that. Edge is probably the best all around option if you are on Windows occasionally.

 

[joecomo]

It rarely happens to me that a website isn't rendered properly by Safari. In those cases my content blocker is almost always to blame. Disabling it for said website and reloading the page fixes it.

It mostly happens (and it is rare), when you register for something, then some button might not work or you get stuck somewhere in the process. Just never happens with Chrome and Edge.

 

[TriBruin]

I've been growing to like Edge more and more vs Safari. Seems faster and I seem to get a better layout on Edge than I do on Safari on some pages. The one thing I miss on Edge that keeps me from switching full time is the integration that Safari offers, especially taking info from Messages for two-factor authentication ... such a nifty little feature. Kind of stupid, I know, but it's so convenient!!

Ken

I hear yea. I moved to Edge a number of months ago and probably won't go back to Safari. But I missed the autofill of SMS code. I have minimized that in a couple of ways. One, is move as much to TOTP based codes, which I store in 1Password. 1P fills those in automatically in Edge. If I have to use SMS, i use an Alfred workflow that copies the latest code from Messages in to the pasteboard and I then can just paste. Still not as seem less, but close enough that I can live with it.

I don't see the frequent updates on Edge, either, but I have seen complaints about it elsewhere, too. For me they always come early every Friday. However, I do have some problems with updates on an iMac where, if the browser is open when the update hits, it totally stops working. It doesn't freeze, but it will not respond to any clicks and even using the keyboard to open new tabs or preferences will just present a blank page. That is annoying AF if you are working on something when it happens. I haven't seen that issue on my laptop but don't use Edge nearly as often there.

The only thing that annoys me about the frequent Edge updates is that it randomly wipes out my pin tabs. I have re-create them all the time.

I feel the same way. In Windows in a corporate environment, Edge is nice because you can centrally manage most aspects of it via InTune. My workplace has it configured so Edge starts out signed in with your SSO credentials based on your initial computer login, so corporate sites just open up with you already signed into them.

IF MS would get their act together, Macs will have a similar feature, using a Microsoft SSO extension. It has been in beta, sorry PREVIEW for almost a year now. But, it has gotten worse, not better. It will require an MDM managed Mac.

 

[Wildkraut]

I just checked....Bing was the default, but under "Others" I have Google, Yahoo and Duckduck...and I did not have to browse to it either.

Edge pops up on my Mac when I have it open on my iPhone, like Safari does...handoff or whatever its called. I did not know it did that. Edge is probably the best all around option if you are on Windows occasionally.

I’ve extra deleted the Edge app to reset settings and show, it’s always like that:

 

[TouchedByAl]

Love using edge on my work computer and I’m trying it out on iOS. For whatever reason I cannot get it to work on my 2018 MacBook Air. I tried installing it off of safari and no amount of installs, uninstalls and fresh installs and reboots made it work. It tries to open but never works.

 

[TouchedByAl]

Scrolling fast up/down incl. full stop(touch) using Edge for iOS on Macrumors mainpage sucks, the site bounces strange. On other sites it works fine.
Is MR primarily Safari optimized?!

PS: It’s the “show full article” feature which is making the MR site bounce. It keeps changing the article preview height dynamically during the scrolling activity.

Any way to adjust this?

 

[persuasiveghost]

I think Edge is nice but I can't get past how it ties itself to the UID. What's the point of being privacy conscious when at its core, is tracking you.

 

[Wildkraut]

Any way to adjust this?

No, I’ve also added my infos to here, now it’s MR devs turn: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...s-anyone.2300889/?post=30093558#post-30093558

 

[MacBH928]

Well, users wan't to sync...
Firefox under iOS sucks, and under Android it's okay, on Windows and macOS it's fine.
Brave Browser and privacy lol that was a joke, wasn't it?
E.g. https://wccftech.com/privacy-centered-browser-brave-is-in-hot-waters-for-violating-users-confidence/

Safari, no Windows version, no way to cross platform sync.

Microsoft does not sell data, the ones who says Google, Microsoft or Apple sells user data just proves that he/she absolutely has no technical knowledge. They use your data to sell ad slots, but your data isn't safer with Apple than with Google, nor with Google than with Microsoft and vise versa.

The ones who violated privacy is exactly Brave Browser...
OpenSource is no warranty for privacy, the distributed binary can(and probably does) differ to the open sourced code.

So your logic is Edge closed source is safer than Brave that is open source-and can compile on your own- because Brave alters the binary? that is interesting logic.

AFAIK both Brave and FireFox allows you to sync.

Collect it, ad slot, sell it, hand it over to the gov. over any request, enjoy reading it...however you want to spin it, its still breaching privacy.

Agreed. I also don't understand the love for Brave. It's Chrome in Sheep's clothing and contributes to the browser monoculture which makes the internet worse for non-Chrome browsers like Firefox and Safari.

I can agree that it contributes to the browser monoculture, but being open source where you can read the code yourself and compile it-if you wish-is still better choice than using the closed source Chrome or Edge. There is no way you can argue Safari is safer when its closed source meanwhile Brave is open source.

 

[MacBH928]

"are willing to sell their privacy away to use Edge or Chrome"

Do people really think that Microsoft is even close to Google when it comes to data collection and privacy issues?????? Have you even checked out the privacy settings in Edge? Nothing like it in Google Chrome.

Microsoft sells software and hardware, Google sells your data. Quite a difference between the two companies.

Apple and Microsoft probably are equal in terms of data collection and usage.

Brave is OK but glitchy as all get out. FireFox, for me, has more issues with websites than Safari does. Its a Chromium world on the web if you want fewer hassles.

From the App Store:-

Spoiler

 

[mzeb]

Sorry to hear that and hope you're over that traumatic event.

It was actually a good place to get started (but not a great place to stick around, I was there for four years). And I absolutely brought my 2006 MacBook to work with me every day . I have an award I got there for being the guy that made sure Boot Camp worked on Win 7 when it was released not because it was my job but because I wanted it to work. It was a lot of good fun. The politics got thick after four years though, and so I bailed. (But not before getting a scowl from Balmer while I was showing off a Gen 1 iPhone to some folks while he passed by in building 34.)

 

[KevinN206]

This is emphatically false or misleading. Yes, major versions may be once a month, but almost daily it pops up to update, usually when I close the browser which is extremely annoying because then it reopens it. Also why can't it auto update in the background like crhome instead of using Microsofts trash autoupdater.

That said I use it as an alt whenever I need something that works on chrome.

So weird. I use ME on Windows almost daily and rarely get update notifications. Is it different on macOS? Why would it need daily updates in the first place? Is it possible that an update was delayed for so long that it starts to send notifications daily?