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Your use case only makes sense if you upgrade once a decade, only need one copy and have no need for the "Pro" version with the extra apps.
Well, I did say that it was Office Professional. I'm using the "Pro" version.
That copy of Office Professional 2003 is good for more than 1 system. I can have 10 copies that I use for a decade and still break even with the subscription rate. Not everyone pays full retail.


If you are still on Office 2003 then you are probably better off with Libre Office which is free since you would not be using the latest and greatest "features" of office anyway.
Even Office 2003 has more features than LibreOffice, but nice try.

Do you really think that Microsoft offers the 365 subscription because it is a better deal for consumers?


Everyone is going mad over subscriptions while I'm just editing files with the 365 I already have ;)
Yeah, gotta make up for it somehow. :p
 
But what grinds me is that I paid good money for a legit copy of Office 2011 for Mac. Now they want to charge me again for the same thing on the mac side if I want it on iOS. MS should either release an updated version of Office for Mac (which you'd get with a 365 subscription) or allow an a la carte purchase for iOS.

As things currently stand, it's BS that someone who bought a legal, fully functional copy of the desktop Office suite pays full price for a 365 subscription.

Don't worry. The Mac version is always 1 year late compared to the PC version. Office 2014 for Mac will be out soon. They released Office 2013 for PC last year. Plus, there are always sales for their Office suits. I got my University Edition for $49.99 instead of the listed price of $79.99.

The listed price for a personal copy is $100 a year, or $10 a month. I've essentially paid $12.50 for a year, or less than $1.05 a month. So in the end of the day, it's not that expensive, and you'll get all the updated offices automatically.
 
I like their mice and I've had a couple of keyboards over the years too. And I think the Surface Pro 2 is an excellent product, albeit a niche one. Personally I think the Windows RT version of the Surface just adds confusion for most people. I understand what they were trying to do, but I think they would have been better off it just ran Windows. They tried to make it be their version of iOS, but iOS runs on the iPhone and iPad where there is a Windows Phone OS and Windows RT. I'm confused just typing that. :D

I never liked their keyboards, overloaded bloatboards. Logitech Illuminated K800 for my (gaming)PC and the Apple Bluetooth for the Macs, I like very low profiles.

I agree with Windows RT - it didn't work out well but they also did cause more confusion with the naming of the Surface 2/Pro. There was no need to come up with two different Surface OS's, while iOS and the history of the iPhone pretty much lead up to what we have now. I'll state an unpopular opinion and say that I'd like to see a fusion of both - without necessarily being the same but they definitely could be closer in general, which would require a more accesible filesystem etc., imho.
 
The Office 365 subscription is beyond stupid. Everyone hates it

Stupid to you, but fine for a lot of people including me.

I can pay $99 a year and get five licenses for my Macs and my work computer.

In the past I would have needed to pay $200-$300 for a perpetual license, but I was upgrading every release anyways.

Same thing with Adobe CC, a lot people seem to be complaining about it, but I love it.
 
I never liked their keyboards, overloaded bloatboards. Logitech Illuminated K800 for my (gaming)PC and the Apple Bluetooth for the Macs, I like very low profiles.

I agree with Windows RT - it didn't work out well but they also did cause more confusion with the naming of the Surface 2/Pro. There was no need to come up with two different Surface OS's, while iOS and the history of the iPhone pretty much lead up to what we have now. I'll state an unpopular opinion and say that I'd like to see a fusion of both - without necessarily being the same but they definitely could be closer in general, which would require a more accesible filesystem etc., imho.

I had the wired version of the Logitech Illuminated keyboard and it was great to type on. I found it not to be durable as the wire was very light and broke where it entered the keyboard housing. In fact, just about every Logitech product I've owned has gone bad right near or just after the end of the warranty. Their customer service was great though. But I did have problems with 3 mice, a keyboard and a speaker system. I still use the Z-2300 2.1 speaker system, absolutely love it.
 
The subscription sucks but damn these are some well made apps


Microsoft really outdid themselves with these, just embarrasses apples iWork apps, iWorks is free for a reason after testing out office on iPad
 
So I see BestBuy has 15% off iTunes gift cards. You could pick up a $100 card for $85 and use that for the subscription. Thinking of doing that.
 
Not that I'm calling you a liar, but I find that very hard to believe.... actually no, I am going to call you a liar because I believe you are talking absolute bull***t. Even publishing companies that I've worked in where the vast majority of work is done on Macs they use MS Word, Powerpoint & Excel in the office areas, and I've never once been in a university where they where not used in one way or another.

It could vary by area of study and need.

In the past I had no issues with open office on linux.


For the current company I work for I can also say our mac users use open office. this was by choice, they hated mac office and said we are not giving you money to buy it anymore. We (meaing the IT section) are easy in this regards...we sadi fine, less purchase request red tape for us to deal with. Our mac users do basic office stuff in addtion to publishing a local magazine for base people to read. It's not time/cosmo scale publication but its not a decent publication all in all. We have 2 very decent photographers on staff so at least the visuals are nice.


Study wise, and even publication wise...he could be in an area where they are starting them early on (la)tex. If a researcher I know I'd be submitting in latex format.
 
So I see BestBuy has 15% off iTunes gift cards. You could pick up a $100 card for $85 and use that for the subscription. Thinking of doing that.

If you have a school email, get the university version. $79.99 for a 4 year subscription. If you look around, some places will have sales on top of that. I actually got mine when it first came out for $49.99.
 
Check out Prezi.com and your mind is going to blow. Just be patient for 2 hours then you will understand how it works #

Prezi is nothing more than a gimmick and doesn't properly support good storytelling at all. If you need that kind of gimmicks to engage your audience than you should reread some books about how good presentations work. Watch a few TED's.
 
If you have a school email, get the university version. $79.99 for a 4 year subscription. If you look around, some places will have sales on top of that. I actually got mine when it first came out for $49.99.

Purchased and activated the university version and in no where was I asked for my university e-mail. Strange. (I'm not in the US though)
 
Purchased and activated the university version and in no where was I asked for my university e-mail. Strange. (I'm not in the US though)

I think you're asked for that with the instillation process. If not then it's just based on the honesty system, which is even better.
 
iWork originally cost $$, as I'm sure you know. So I don't know why "1% of iOS users" would be against paying for the world's most prominent office suite. Now, I dislike Microsoft and love Apple just as much as many people here (been with a Mac for 9 years and iPhones since 2008; no MS products anywhere in between) but I really don't see why people wouldn't use Office for iPad. I'm not saying I like the subscription model, I think it 100% should be a one-time fee... but assuming you're comparing it against iWork because iWork is free isn't too accurate, because Apple had once charged users, too.

Well, if Microsoft would give the chance to pay it as a one time fee software. I would gladly pay USD 20 or 30 for the suite if it gives me a very good experience. I like the Tweetbot model on iOS for example. You pay for a version, if they release a much better major version, then you pay again or a discounted price if you want the newest one.
The same way was working with Office 2003,2007,2010,2013 on Windows.

I want to own the software I dont want to pay for a subscription. I pay subscriptions for services not for software.
 
The point I'd make here is that the vast majority of people are doing basic things. I have yet to receive an Excel spreadsheet of the size you describe, and not a one that I can recall including even a single calculation. And I'm talking about hundreds and hundreds of Excel files over a period of decades.

So what you're saying is.... people can have very different needs.

Seems to be a common theme in this thread.

Some people need full compatibility with Microsoft Office. For them... only true Microsoft Office will do.

Other people don't have the same demands... and they can get along fine with a free office suite.
 
Not really. The company I work for have the home usage program. I get office thru that for a £8.95 one off charge. I'm not paying that same amount monthly for office, it's a rip off. Even if I bought the home version of office at full price, that's £110 for the current version, which last approx 3 years until a new version comes out (give or take). 3 years of office 365 is £240. If you're still trying to tell me that office 365 is cheaper then you're insane.

Surely if the company you work for have the home usage program, they have already purchased Office Licenses - you're only paying to extend the existing license. If they switched to Office 365 instead, you would be able to install office at home for free - that's the office 365 equivalent of the home usage program. This would cost you nothing, ergo Office 365 is clearly cheaper and I'm not insane.
 
I have it on VERY good authority that ONE subscription to 365 from ANY iPad would equate to just about 50% of Microsoft's profit from selling a single one of their crappy tablets. In other words, anyone buying Office for their iPad, using the Home Premium subscription, is paying Microsoft the same amount of money over two years as if they had bought the Microsoft tablet with Office included.

While I cannot independently verify this, I do trust my source.
 
This isn't surprising. Of the $99 physical boxed copy of Office 365 you see in stores, Microsoft probably gets close to the same 70%, if not less.
3rd party stores of all types, retail or internet, take their cut. It's part of doing business.

Retailers actually make next to nothing in most software sales. We are talking single digits at best. Much less than 30%.
 
Apple won't make a whole heap of cash out of this project, 30% of no sales won't earn them a thing. Now its true to say that MS make great Office software, if you are in a business where sharing documents is key then Word provides a very stable environment in which to work. If this is you, you will already have a subscription to their services, or at least be aware of the opportunity. Its possible that these apps may sweeten the deal for you if you were teetering.

If you are not a power user of Office documents then you will never need these apps and never need a 365 subscription, you are not their target market. There are too many lighter and more intuitive alternatives out there to go MS Office.

I am glad to see that MS have released these apps, it shows that they are turning corners and competition is always good. A world without MS would be bad, who else would we bash?

Subscription based software is the future. Blame the pirates, the freeloaders, the torrenters, don't blame the likes of Adobe and MS, they need to make money and this is a better way to do it for them. Thankfully I am not a power user and don't need the tools they make so I never have to go down that road.
 
So I'm curious- and this is a serious question, not snark. Is there a benefit to users that use the Calibri font? Or did MS just make it up and make it theirs to force incompatibility issues with non MS software (therefore forcing people to buy their stuff just to work with others better)? To my eye Calibri is nothing to write home about... but I'm not a graphic designer or typesetter or what have you.

I did read the wiki regarding this font, saw that it won some award... but well yeah, my question stands.

Hey,

I use Calibri at work for cv and document creation simply as nothing else is suitable. Office may have a shed load of fonts but most are gimmicky and ugly. So I am left to use Calibri and tbh I think they have done it deliberately to force incompatibility.

Soon as Pages offers me same features though I will def move away from Office.
 
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