Let's all remember that nothing is free. Not even iwork. The cost to provide iwork is factored into the cost of the phone or other apple services. Even if you don't use iwork, you still paid for it, just like any other apple app that is "free".
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Microsoft Paying Apple 30-Percent Cut on In-App Office 365 Subscription Purchases
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My question is will I have to down load an up date each time I want to use it, Of a huge size to boot? Much like I had to do for my Mac until I unloaded it and went with Pages exclusively once I got tired of that delay and those security flaws that must always been present. I am sorry but MS has problems with security on every front and this would simply be another avenue open for an attack...
I have one isolated Windows laptop that I use for work when necessary...it's has updates all the time for security problems..which keeps reminding me why I migrated originally to Apple.
ActiveX components, a design choice by MS, introduced an open pipeline in the 90s that MS has yet to over come.
Apple maintains control of its OS much better than MS ever has attempted.
I have one isolated Windows laptop that I use for work when necessary...it's has updates all the time for security problems..which keeps reminding me why I migrated originally to Apple.
ActiveX components, a design choice by MS, introduced an open pipeline in the 90s that MS has yet to over come.
Apple maintains control of its OS much better than MS ever has attempted.
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So, they are paying Apple 30% for the 30% of the Office 365 Subscription that you are not getting. Access and Publisher are "not available on a Mac" primarily because there is no Mac version of the programs yet the price of Office 365 subscription isn't adjusted for that reality. And, of course, the outdated version of Word for Mac is what you are stuck with pending their future release.
To be fair, MS did say they have a new version of Office coming out shortly, so that complaint is mostly moot.
Take that you clowns at UBS.
http://news.investors.com/technolog...ot-getting-30-percent-fee-for-ipad-office.htm
Your comment is irrelevant as you can't sign up to a Netflix subscription from inside the app...
How is he wrong? The analyst claimed that Apple would cut Microsoft a deal and he has been proven wrong. How is what the OP posted irrelevant? Once again another analyst has been shown to be full of it - colour me unsurprised.
I'm not sure if even 1% of iOS users are willing to accept this subcription model.... iWork FTW.
Pages is to word processing what Frontpage Express was to web development.
You don't own that free software in any way, if Apple wanted to they could remove it without notice.
I think you are right on the mark. There are folks that are "power users" that will need features that apple does not have, like pivot tables and vb scripting. Those will use MS on the desktop. For 99% of users that want to do text editing or spreadsheets on an ipad, they will not be power users. For them iWorks is enough or better because it is simple.
I use ms office at work but never at home. I actually prefer iWorks. Occasionally I do wish I had excel at home because I do like to do a few more intense things with my spreadsheets, but for text and presentations I have never wanted MS at home and even less on my ipad.
Now throw in the whole subscription vs. free argument and for me at least the conversation is over.
While I do generaly feel that softwaresubcriptions are a cheap way of "forcing" users to upgrade (even in the business universe it is not uncommon to skip versions of office, windows and other software, so the calculations on pricing are....well....vague at best) I would personaly think that 365 would prrof reasonable value for me (having an iMac, a MBP, 2 PCs and an iPad and using office on all of them except the ipad)...
BUT...
I realy feel ripped of due to the different international prices for the exact same product:
US: 99$/Year
Denmark: 799 DKK (-25% VAT) -> 599.25 DKK = 110.35$/Year
Switzerland: 119.95 CHF (-8% VAT) -> 110.35 CHF = 124.39$/Year
Germany: 99 Euro (-19% VAT) -> 80.19 Euro = 110.25$/Year
That is 10-24% markup on a digital product. Yeah, that makes me feel ripped of!
On a related matter (even though a bit off topic here) Apple math has gotten pretty "inconsistant":
iPads and iPhone 4s: 1$<1 (for example iPad air 128GGB cellular 929$ vs. 869)
all Macs (except the mini), iPod shuffle and most acceories: 1$=1
Mac mini and iPhone (except the 4s) iPods (except the shuffle): 1$>1 (for example iPod Touch 64 GB 399$ vs. 419)
Very odd calculations Tim ;-)
thanks MS
think of it like this
Microsoft will still dominate a long time in the PC share...Majority of the documents will still be created in word excel powerpoint as there are simply more windows pcs out there numbers tell us that...Being a university student I subscribed to this today and glad I did.
Example 1:
Last year lecturer published slides that when I opened it keynote it was a mess...text boxes in the wrong places, charts wrong merged transitions A MESS...
Example 2:
This year lecturer publish a word study guide document of over 90 pages..."pages" can't view table of contents, formatting is also strange...a mess.
I paid $99 for 4 years outside apple's in app purchase for this which is Ok for the lifetime of the software...
I do think a reasonable price would be $9.99 a year.
think of it like this
Microsoft will still dominate a long time in the PC share...Majority of the documents will still be created in word excel powerpoint as there are simply more windows pcs out there numbers tell us that...Being a university student I subscribed to this today and glad I did.
Example 1:
Last year lecturer published slides that when I opened it keynote it was a mess...text boxes in the wrong places, charts wrong merged transitions A MESS...
Example 2:
This year lecturer publish a word study guide document of over 90 pages..."pages" can't view table of contents, formatting is also strange...a mess.
I paid $99 for 4 years outside apple's in app purchase for this which is Ok for the lifetime of the software...
I do think a reasonable price would be $9.99 a year.
It might be more accurate to say that you RENT Office 365.
After shopping around I was able to find a 1 yr subscription to Office 365 for $65. For that price I'm willing to give it a try. After all, I still have my Office Professional 2003 disc to fall back on.
20% off subscription
In the UK you can save 20% on iTunes gift cards at Tesco if you buy them before Sunday.
Having this as an in app purchase means you can pay by gift card as long as you add the gift cards to your iTunes account before making the purchase.
So therefore if you can get a cheap source of gift cards you save on your subscription as well as still being able to use it on up to 5 PCs/Macs.
Still expensive, but worth knowing if you do need to buy it.
In the UK you can save 20% on iTunes gift cards at Tesco if you buy them before Sunday.
Having this as an in app purchase means you can pay by gift card as long as you add the gift cards to your iTunes account before making the purchase.
So therefore if you can get a cheap source of gift cards you save on your subscription as well as still being able to use it on up to 5 PCs/Macs.
Still expensive, but worth knowing if you do need to buy it.
This is the future. Be prepared for it.
50% of worldwide's biggest companies are abandoning purchasing corporate software and going for the subscription model (Cloud computing), and by the end of this year, that number will increase to 65%
Consumer market is not far behind. Soon you will only have terminals (i.e. thin clients) and all your processing power (and documents) will sit on a server. Heck, this already started.
Just be prepared, I hate to give MS compliments, but actually with this one they might be onto something. In the corporate world, big red (Oracle) is suffering due to the fact that they ignored the cloud, now they are playing catch up. Microsoft I guess is trying to be ahead.
For a tablet It's pretty solid. And apple will constantly update to keep it robust and useful. Word for iPad is also the light version of the real one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmQa2IkQ2j8
But realistically, that is very unlikely. iWork is their best productivity tool. On the other hand not being able to pay $99 every year and losing ability to edit your docs is a real possibility.
In short Microsoft's strategy has fail written all over it, just like Win 8, Surface for different reasons but fail never the less. It's just Microsoft is in denial. I worry of the day when the reach acceptance.
When is Office just going to die? It's an awful set of software apps (with the slight exception of Excel). I use it only because my clients do, and I need to interact with their documents. If it wasn't for that. It wouldn't be anywhere near my computer.
They're moving to the same kind of business model as basically every other software company and this has fail written all over it? I guess in a couple of years Apple will be the only tech company remaining...
Don't get too comfortable. These office programs are the worst culprits in terms of security and they have to be constantly patched. Office 2003 support will stop one fine day and you will have to upgrade eventually.
Great, so I'd only have to pay $50/year for it? (2 laptops, 2 iPhones, 1 iPad)
What's that? I'd still have to pay $100/year? But *you* said it was $10 per device for the year!
Hint: There's a *lot* of people out there who would be spending that $100/year to get Office 365 on just 1 or 2 devices. There's comparatively very few who will actually get that maximum of 10 systems out of their subscription.
Frankly, PowerPoint isn't a selling point when you have Keynote available.
For most people, Pages is going to fill their needs every bit as well as Word, and most people don't actually do more than simple column sums in Excel, which means Numbers is *more* than up to the task. All of that sets the user back *less* than one year of Office365, and they get to keep using the apps after the year is up.
And, yes, there are folks who might actually need some of the various bits of Office, but in reality (as years of the iPad without Offce have shown) those people aren't actually as common as pundits assumed.
Office 365 Personal for one PC or Mac and one tablet to be connected to the service and will be available for $69.99 USD/year or $6.99 USD/ month
http://blogs.office.com/2014/03/13/announcing-office-365-personal-a-new-way-to-access-office-365/
http://blogs.office.com/2014/03/13/announcing-office-365-personal-a-new-way-to-access-office-365/
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I sadly agree with you.
Thin client, thick usage bill
and easier for agencies to track everything you use, how often, what you look at, etc.
Holy F
! That $99 IAP is only for one year!? It is NOT clear. The IAP says nothing about this only being for one year. There are going to be a lot of pissed off people thinking they purchased Office for iPad for $99. That price IS reasonable (kinda) but not for one year!
! That $99 IAP is only for one year!? It is NOT clear. The IAP says nothing about this only being for one year. There are going to be a lot of pissed off people thinking they purchased Office for iPad for $99. That price IS reasonable (kinda) but not for one year!Allow me to clarify that. Not "5 mobile devices". It's "5 iPads". This application doesn't run on the iPhone or iTouch.
Well in the enterprise space Windows and Office are still dominant on the desktop and iPads on the mobile market. While companies are most likely not on the latest version of Office, it does give them an additional reason. Plus, Apple will be making money from the IAP's.
While iWork is decent, it still has some ways to go to be a real replacement for Office in my eyes.
Holy F
Allow me to clarify that. Not "5 mobile devices". It's "5 iPads". This application doesn't run on the iPhone or iTouch.
Yes, 5 iPads or other mobile devices for you 365 subscription.
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No...when you using Pages to open word document with bunch if mathematically formulas (I am mathematics major and finance minor), you will ended up with this:
The original looks like this:
Numbers is still frustrating to use, why can't just enter the number? I need either press = sign in keyboard or I have tap the = n the virtual keyboard. Excel you can just directly put number in top row and the custom keyboard is really good. Just let you know, Excel runs better on iPad 3 than Numbers.
