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Shouldn't you only mouth off when you have a superior product? WP8 is not superior to iOS. And if it wasn't for Nokia they wouldn't even be on the radar.

How low can you go MS.

Actually, I'd contend that except for app selection, Windows Phone 8 is superior to iOS in many areas. I switched from iPhone to Windows phone, and I'll tell you without any reservations, I couldn't go back--iOS is simply too primitive from a user experience and capability point of view.

While iOS is a perfectly good OS, it's not very good at getting your data front-and-center. WP8, on the other hand, excels at this, whether that means the basics like calendars and contacts, or whether it means deeply integrated social media or the ability to put "deep links" from apps on your start screen to fine tune the data you have rapid access to. I'll give you a few examples of why I say this.

In iOS, say I've got Pandora and a list of maybe 30 stations. I can launch Pandora and, if the custom station I'm looking for is on the front page, I can launch it, so two clicks. If not, I have to browse deeper into the app, find what I want and launch it, so 3-4 clicks.

In Windows Phone, I can pin every individual station I want straight to my start screen and have literally one click access to the station.

In IOS, if I'm using Evernote or OneNote to keep my notes, there are many things I can do. I can make new ones, access old ones, etc, fairly easy. If I need to get to a specific note in a specific notebook, I launch Evernote or Onenote, navigate to where my notebook is, and scroll to find my notes. At least 3 clicks, depending how deep I need to go.

In Windows phone, I can directly pin notebooks or even specific notes right to my start screen for not only single click access, but notification if one of my shared notes has been modified by one of my coworkers. I can't do that in iOS *at all*.

In iOS I can navigate into my contacts app and see the people I have saved. Pretty slick. If I want to see what their social network status is, I launch the appropriate app. If I want to see my history of contact with that person, I have to go to my a)call log, b) text log, and c)social app (say, facebook or twitter).

In Windows Phone, I go into my People app (contacts plus so much more), and in one location I can find my contact and see all the ways to contact them, I can see their latest social networks updates, post to their facebook wall, reply to them on Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, text messaging, Skype, Instant Messenger or facebook messenger in a clean, single, unified interface. I can see a single log with all of my contact with that person: when I last called her, my most recent text messages and emails, including dates, any upcoming calendared appointments, etc. It's a VERY powerful application, and nothing on iOS matches its versatility.

If I want to keep track of a few "favorite people" without delving into my contacts, I can't do that easily on iOS. With Windows Phone, I simply pin those people to my start screen and their tiles will automatically update when they message me, add new pictures or posts to their social networks, call me, or whatever else. If I only want one tile and not a bunch, I can add my favorite people to a group and pin that, and it'll update with an aggregate of all their information as the updates come in. If I want all of those people to communicate in a unified way, I can add them all to a "Room" and pin that room to my start screen, which allows every member to message all the rest, share pictures, documents and conversations in a private space. I can't do that on iOS at all.

Now, there are some things iOS does that WP does not do, but they tend to be app-centric things. For example, there's no compatible Square, Intuit or PayPal credit card swiper on Windows Phone (as far as I know, last time I looked was a couple of months ago), but that's something that can be fixed with apps.

It's fun, I know, to badmouth "competing" OS's and claim they're inferior and all that, but it simply isn't an accurate or honest statement to claim that "iOS is superior to WP8" in any kind of unilateral sense. Yes, it has some things it does that WP8 doesn't, but WP8 equally has many useful, well implemented features that iOS simply does not--and in its present form, cannot--offer.
 
Touch ID actually works, and apparently Apple thinks well enough to entrust the iTunes account to it. It's 64 bit, which probably doesn't mean much now, but will when H.265 comes in... next year... and you could stream in 4K, maybe? It gives a little speed now, and more later. The chipset will show up in the Apple TV. 64-bit makes it possible to stream to higher-def screens. Or screens of many definitions. And then there's the coprocessor. And iOS 7...

Of course, look at the Lumia phones. What were their colors? That's right.

Pretty embarrassing for Microsoft that Nokia had Android working on the Lumia, isn't it? In order to stop them from dropping Windows Phone 8, they had to buy the company? Just sayin'.

Yeah, but Apple thought their terrible Maps app was good enough :p. 64 bit is a good direction to go in, but it will never matter to the iphone 5S. 4K will never matter to it, either--why would it when they haven't even gone to HD screens yet *at all*? The iPhone 5S doesn't even do 720p, which is the baseline for HD, much less 1080p, to say nothing of 4K :p.

Lumia devices are great though, at least on the high end. I'm actually glad MS bought Nokia, though. Should greatly improve their ability to iterate hardware quickly and with top tier quality.
 
See what I mean? The Droidiots and Apple haters have no idea how to respond to the 5C and 5S.
They can't. Hardware specs, build quality, iOS 7 advances, and now a Samsung-killing 5C price.
It used to be that the best defense was a good offense. Now the Droidiots' best defense is to shut up.

Oh, and buddy, your Commodore 64 had 64K of RAM.
It was an 8-bit machine with an 8-bit CPU.
Do us a favor. Buy a clue and read Wikipedia once in a while.


You need to let go of the anger my friend;).... Its just a phone...
 
I gotta agree with the ad. What the hell has Apple been doing the last 6 months? But unfortunately, the iPhone 5C/S will not flop. People will once again line up in droves. I don't understand it. They're not bad phones, but their not innovative.


Well given the recent product announcement I would hazard a guess that they've been adding a desktop-class 64-bit processor, larger battery without increasing device size, dedicated motion processor, and 360° fingerprint scanner to their iPhone line.

If that's not innovative can you please show me which phones already have those?

I can certainly tell you one company that will try to next year.
 
So they say for the past 6 months Apple has been up to adding new colors to he iPhone lineup.

Microsoft over the last 6 months:

-Forced out CEO
-$900,000,000 loss from lack of Surface RT sales
-Generally negative reviews and hatred for Windows 8
-Spending on anti-Apple ads has increased though..



Well given the recent product announcement I would hazard a guess that they've been adding a desktop-class 64-bit processor, larger battery without increasing device size, dedicated motion processor, and 360° fingerprint scanner to their iPhone line.

If that's not innovative can you please show me which phones already have those?

I can certainly tell you one company that will try to next year.

Copying Apple's approach would be the smartest thing Microsoft has done in years. They'll probably do what they've been doing since forever and simply laugh at Apple products. Who wants a $500 phone? He said...(Ballmer). Laughs at the iPad, he did...
 
The problem is: outside the US, where Apple hasn't managed to maintain their submissive (for the providers) contracts with the mobile service providers, the pricing of the new iPhones is so bad that people literally can't afford them anymore. I live in Switzerland - probably the wealthiest country in the world - and people can't afford the phones. A 32gb iPhone 5S costs 1100$ here unsubsidized and around 800$ on a two-year contract. The 5C is about 100$ cheaper. Go figure.

Well then that raises into question the claim it is the wealthiest country in the world.
 
See what I mean? The Droidiots and Apple haters have no idea how to respond to the 5C and 5S.
They can't. Hardware specs, build quality, iOS 7 advances, and now a Samsung-killing 5C price.
It used to be that the best defense was a good offense. Now the Droidiots' best defense is to shut up.

Oh, and buddy, your Commodore 64 had 64K of RAM.
It was an 8-bit machine with an 8-bit CPU.
Do us a favor. Buy a clue and read Wikipedia once in a while.

Samsung-Killing? You do realize this phone is irrelevant to anyone who actually desires a phone bigger then a 4" screen right?
 
There is no question who ever put together this add intended that guy to look like Steve Jobs when he was sick. To Parody a person who recently died of a
horrid cancer taking away his life prematurely is completely tasteless.
To parody anyone either good or bad so close to their death is despicable.
Now if this was done by a high school student I would look past it as the immature mind tends to poke fun and laugh at anything. This how ever was released by a corporation like Microsoft is shameful. The complete irony is they are trying to copy samsungs ads which poke fun of Apple and their users, only difference Samsung ads are clever and not shameful.

This video speaks for itself about microsoft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc
 
I'm sorry. I'm Apple's biggest fan, have been for decades, only have had iPhones since they came out, but I think that ad is funny. The ONLY problem with it is that it was insensitive about Steve Jobs. But other than that, come on, it's kinda cute.
 
Microsoft in 2013 is making fun of a product who's current fat/bald/bipolar CEO made predictions of its demise back in 2007. MS and Steve Ballwarmer, go F@@@ yourselves! :D
 
In iOS, say I've got Pandora and a list of maybe 30 stations. I can launch Pandora and, if the custom station I'm looking for is on the front page, I can launch it, so two clicks. If not, I have to browse deeper into the app, find what I want and launch it, so 3-4 clicks.

In Windows Phone, I can pin every individual station I want straight to my start screen and have literally one click access to the station.

In IOS, if I'm using Evernote or OneNote to keep my notes, there are many things I can do. I can make new ones, access old ones, etc, fairly easy. If I need to get to a specific note in a specific notebook, I launch Evernote or Onenote, navigate to where my notebook is, and scroll to find my notes. At least 3 clicks, depending how deep I need to go.

In Windows phone, I can directly pin notebooks or even specific notes right to my start screen for not only single click access, but notification if one of my shared notes has been modified by one of my coworkers. I can't do that in iOS *at all*.

In iOS I can navigate into my contacts app and see the people I have saved. Pretty slick. If I want to see what their social network status is, I launch the appropriate app. If I want to see my history of contact with that person, I have to go to my a)call log, b) text log, and c)social app (say, facebook or twitter).

In Windows Phone, I go into my People app (contacts plus so much more), and in one location I can find my contact and see all the ways to contact them, I can see their latest social networks updates, post to their facebook wall, reply to them on Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, text messaging, Skype, Instant Messenger or facebook messenger in a clean, single, unified interface. I can see a single log with all of my contact with that person: when I last called her, my most recent text messages and emails, including dates, any upcoming calendared appointments, etc. It's a VERY powerful application, and nothing on iOS matches its versatility.

Great writeup!

You could take all those examples and turn them into bitesize 30 second chunks and make commercials for each great feature of Windows Phone.

Then there would finally be some commercials talking about Windows Phone.

Seriously... how does Microsoft think they can sell phones when all they do is talk about every other phone on the market?

Windows Phone is almost 3 years old... yet it's still a mystery to most people.
 
Its pretty lame to make jokes about the competition, regardless of who you are. To me, that just smacks of having no imagination, and just pointing the finger and doing a (Nelson) har-har!

Its like pointing at someone and saying "You're fat".... To me, that just means that there is nothing else to go by, and the easiest thing to do is to pick on someones looks.

With MS offering money for iPad's, and now this, they must be struggling.
 
The ad is pathetic, the girl however is super cute

I don't consider Microsoft too relevant these days, I just don't see what they were trying to achieve with this.
 
"Are we gonna tell people they're made out of plastic? Nah bro."

But they did tell us it was plastic?
 
wouldn't you love to be in the room at Apple's headquarters
when Tim and Jonathan were shown these video's
from a former friend of mine in the industry "you never want to get on Apple's bad side because they will destroy you"
For us old timers remember when Michael Dell made the statement 14 years ago "Apple is an irrelevant company" That statement was posted on the wall at Apple headquarters. Now look at Dell
 
Why are you hash tagging?

This is why:

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Mine wasn't Cook but it certainly wasn't Jobs.

Seriously... if they really wanted to depict Jobs you'd be seeing a turtleneck collar on that shirt. The rabid fanboys here always crack me up. :D Of all the crap going on the world to get worked up over...

if you don't think the parody was of a "jobs" look a like your in serious denial, or the director of the commercial, and clearly the other one was of Ive.
 
The only good thing Apple makes are their phones. Windows > Macs. Any $300 laptop can even be > Macbooks.
 
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I love the spirit of light hearted competition but damn that was so lame....they couldve done a MUCH better job....i loved the wedding fight ad that they had...that was funny
 
There are three things I think are true:

1. Apple is in a reboot mode. The criticisms are fair, they have slipped in many ways, and the question is can they reboot by next year with meaningful innovations before the market leaves them behind. Google smells blood in the water, and have some big things up their sleeves.

This is as more about software and services than better specs on the hardware. My belief—and hope—is Tim knows this and is acting on it. It takes time.

2. The girl is the video is really hot.

3. Microsoft still has no taste. The video's just not funny.
 
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